Here's another one which I thought was funny and was going to comment on but when I got to the bottom, it was closed. He was just showing something funny and did not even mention who the business was but most would have been able to figure it out.
Note the key words in the reply which are all about the money as usual.
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The policy was established some time back primarily because of shills posting "hey look at this". "Has anyone seen this light?" Before long some threads had become virtual shopping experience threads with members joining in and posting every new light they found. The links primarily pointed to two sites which turned them into advertising threads inviting more shills from those sites. It wasn't until after the policy went into effect that those sites started actually supporting CPF. Their own customer service issues eventually (mostly) halted their forum participation."
They deleted several later comment from me about how the santimony is unjustified and how hk retailers work; and the reason for ban is "ignoring moderation" (of which I can see none in the thread, probably deleted but I guess they expect you to know all deleted comments ).
As if we really needed to drive home how small minded these cpf admins are...
This is not about shilling really, it is about paying your Danegeld to Sasha. Why doesn't eveyone leave? It is so glaringly obivious that this is Clearly Profit Focussed at its worst again. And again
It is an ambiguous post, there is the real concern with shills but reading the whole post it looks like there could either be some monetary motivation and/or plain old overzealousness behind the concern. I just can't see how the forum will get money out of having fewer shills, could someone enlighten me?
To me it seems that the real point is that dealer mentioning will not be tolerated.
Fair enough, though silly IMO.
However they can't mention their own wares in CPF or CPFMarketplace unless they pay the Danegeld. My guess is that any paying advertiser will not find mentions of their products disappearing, the Chinese dealers will. And of course, the holy Surefire will never get hit by this.
My suspicion is that shilling (which is objectionable) is being used as an excuse to raise advertising revenues.
I mean - is it shilling to say where you bought, or were given, something for the purpose of reviewing it?
I would evaluate any review where the device was a free sample in a different manner to one where the person spent their own money. I may add that all of my reviews ever (apart from review copies of a couple of books, one of which was excellent and one of which was unreadable) were of things bought with my own money and if anything was not, I would say who gave it to me and why. If a dealer or manufacturer is prepared to do that (presumably as advertising) then I would try not to make it influence my judgement but I might not always succeed. Which is why it is essential at the very least to say that it was given rather than bought.
And why does this only apply only to dealers and not to manufacturers as well?
If you look at any enthusiast website you will see that the vast majority are reviewing stuff that they didn't buy as well as user reviews of stuff they did buy. Why does CPF feel the need to be different?