NiWalker Nova MiniMax MM15 2x Cree MT-G2 P0 5233lm LED 18650 Flashlight

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NiWalker Nova MiniMax MM15 2x Cree MT-G2 P0 5233lm LED 18650 Flashlight

Click here for detail – NiWalker MM15

Coupon – DualMTG2

Technical specifications
Light output / runtime
Mode 1 : 6 lumens
Mode 2: 180 lumnes
Mode 3: 450 lumens / 24 hrs
Mode 4: 880 lumens / 9 hrs 25 mins
Mode 5: 1950 lumens / 5 hrs 17mins
Turbo: 5233 lumens / 2 hrs 10 mins

Max beam distance: 280 meters
Peak beam intensity: cd: 19.600

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I’ve actually lost some interest in lights recently (only relatively of course!), but this is one is by far the most exciting I have seen for a long while. It isn’t just the incredible power to size ratio at max output, but the overall build quality and efficiency at the more practical levels whilst also giving very tightly binned neutral white light. Check out the brown lines on this runtime graph (taken from selfbuilts review of the revised prototype) for an illustration:

Bear in mind that this graph is based on only 2200mah cell as well.

NB: A measurement error in the review of the Prototype 2 version of this light led to some incredible but inaccurate results (>300 lm/w). I should’ve done the maths earlier and worked out they were impossible, but I only did so properly (and notified selfbuilt of the possible error, which turned out to be true) after the final shipping version review.

It turns out that the efficiency figures are more like 150-160 lm/w, which whilst not so incredible (literally) are still very impressive, as are many other aspects of this light.

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I dont get it? 4 mins on turbo and cells @50% is good? :/

Fenix TK61 MOD> resistor, transistors, copper heatsink, Artic Cooling MX4, dedome, 3A > 5.7A ~ 1700 lumens > (600.000cd)

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Well not if you put it like that, but the cells aren’t down to 50%, there is a thermal step-down to stop the light from overheating due to its massive output for its size.

Anyway, can you name any other 4× 18650 LED light in this size range (or at all) that can even put out 5200 lumens? I consider that a show-off mode that’s there for very short usage in extreme situations. It isn’t in the main mode group anyway and if I need runtime then I won’t plan on using it at all, 2000 is enough for any close up area-lighting, which is what such a floody light is best for anyway.

My Skyray king does 2100 for about 80-90 minutes, so to almost match that output in a very tightly binned neutral tint for ~150 minutes is very impressive imo.

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Now i noticed the runtime on high, its really good.

Fenix TK61 MOD> resistor, transistors, copper heatsink, Artic Cooling MX4, dedome, 3A > 5.7A ~ 1700 lumens > (600.000cd)

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best price I have seen, by far!

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Take a look over on “that other” flashlight forum.

Vinh Nguyen 54 is modding these gems, and the sales and responses in the MM15 sub-forum are self-explanatory!

(I DID order one, current boost/domes on. I have been waiting for a nuclear flooder.)

The price in this thread (OP) is outstanding!!! Thank you, hkequipment!

There will always be more darkness than I have lights.

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The Burgh wrote:
Take a look over on “that other” flashlight forum.

Vinh Nguyen 54 is modding these gems, and the sales and responses in the MM15 sub-forum are self-explanatory!

(I DID order one, current boost/domes on. I have been waiting for a nuclear flooder.)

The price in this thread (OP) is outstanding!!! Thank you, hkequipment!

absolutely amazing how many of those vinh has sold!

(the output of the stock MM15 too tame for you?) I guess ‘nuclear’ is the key word. Have u received yours yet? What is the turbo output?

this deal is so tempting. If I already had the cells I would get it. What cells will u use?

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RedForest UK wrote:
high CRI light

MT-G2 P0

high CRI???

No


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Be careful of the map police!!

Would you mind keeping the wrong flashlight?
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I got an MM15vn.

Blinding is the best way to describe turbo mode. Big Smile Just the sheer wall of light it it puts out is impressive. Most people are awed by throwers – when folks see the MM15vn’s output compared to my TK-75, they’re like, “Meh.” to the TK.

Turbo is supposed to be 6500L domes on. I got the Stage 1, domes on version as I wanted total flood.

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Just ordered one. Couldn’t resist at this price.

Thanks hkequipment !!!

 

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I just couldn’t resist with that price.. sigh, I need to join Flashlight Anonymous soon.
Anybody want to join me? Big Smile

The only way to do a great work is to love what you do.

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DayLighter wrote:
I just couldn’t resist with that price.. sigh, I need to join Flashlight Anonymous soon. Anybody want to join me? Big Smile

I have heard it said “revealing your feeling is the beginning of healing.”

this will be a difficult one to pass on, my most difficult. I passed on the excellent Sunwayman D40A for $50, that wasn’t easy.

In lieu of this light I could easily get Mountain Electronics’ Supfire M6, for less than half the price! Not much difference?

I’ll go now….

p.s. hope you got your shelf back up, reinforced!

p.p.s. Got Vinnies e-mail update tonight: #6 or #7 beckoning?

May 3:
1. M2500 Dome $90 $100
2. M2500 Dedome $90 $100
3. TN35vn Dome $180 $195
4. TN35vn Dedome $185 $200
5. TK35UEvn Dome on $125 $140
6. MM15vn dome on $220 $235
7. MM15vn Dedome $225 $240
8. Quad MTG2 Mule Single Mode SVD7vn $350 $375
9. TK35UEvn Dedome $125 $140
10. S200C2vn MTG2 3 mode dome on 4.5A, extra 18650 extension included, Can run 2*18350 or 2*18650 $150 $165

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Vinh Nguyen

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I bought a MTN M6. The MM15vn is WAY more than twice the torch. It wasn’t cheap, but I really don’t regret this purchase.

Would Vinh be okay if I asked him about a mail list light, even though I’m not subscribed?

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keithd wrote:
I bought a MTN M6. The MM15vn is WAY more than twice the torch. It wasn’t cheap, but I really don’t regret this purchase.

Would Vinh be okay if I asked him about a mail list light, even though I’m not subscribed?

about purchasing a light from him? Don’t see why not. PM him, I have many times and he always answers. I have never purchased from him and probably won’t , but not because I don’t want all of his offerings.

Appreciate your comment on the M6 vs MM15. Was the M6 modded, option #2?

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I have few M6s already, although it’s not modded with #2 , I did simple resistor mod and it’s bright enough, it’s just that I never have Niwalker light before.. especially double MT-G2s in 1 light.. not too mention excellent run time Smile
Although I’m interested in Vinh’s MM15vn.. but the price at HKequipment is hard to say no Love , I already put 2 in my cart until I have to explain to my wife why I need 2 of them..

BTW.. the shelves is up again and this time all the lights took 3 shelves Tired

Top shelf is for “premium” and heavy modded lights, middle shelf is for “ regular and modded light” and bottom shelf is for EDC lights :bigsmile:

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My M6 was stock. I’m in the process of modding it, but it’s going slow.

The “way more than twice the torch” was more based on how I feel about the flashlight. I mean, amongst flashlight enthusiasts the M6 with 2000-2400L is nothing nowadays (how we are spoiled!). But the MM15 behaves really differently from most other lights out there, even aside from its 5200-6500L output. The very forward-mounted LEDs gives a bunch of spill, and the huge dies of the MT-G2s also contributes to spill. Most lights try to impress with a blinding hotspot – this thing will light up a 150 degree arc very brightly.

Also with all that, even non-flashaholics always comment about how it’s so small, how is it so bright? Every one of my other lights gets a, “That’s cool.” The MM15 gets a, “Holy crap!” Big Smile

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Oh, and DayLighter, if you can afford 2x MM15s, you need to get the MM15vn Stage 1. Unless you’re a highly skilled modder, Vinh’s labor costs are very well worth it to me.

The $50 premium I paid over retail got me a light that’s been modded with a high level of reassurance from a guy that from what I know backs his stuff completely.

And the issue with the turbo runtime? The factory rates the turbo runtime over an hour, whereas the MM15vn can only do a few minutes, but that’s the compromise you make. When you’re over 5K lumens, each additional hundred lumen block adds dearly to cost, complexity, and heat. But most everyone here knows this, I’m just rambling for the most part.

$260 is a lot for a flashlight. And I don’t regret it at all. Smile

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Good Day hkequipment, Smile
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Does your free shipping to Australia (Hong Kong Post) include tracking?
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Thank You Very Much,
Roberta 0:)

Greetings from The Land Downunder

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RaceR86 wrote:
high CRI???

No


Sorry, my mistake, I’ll edit my posts. I had thought that even the P0 was 75-80 CRI, which many manufacturers refer to as high CRI (it seems I wasn’t the only one to make the mistake).

Anyway, even if it isn’t high CRI then the neutral tint with such a tight chromaticity bin (2-step Macadam, so no tint lottery) still adds to how impressive the efficiency figures are.

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Clarification please.

-The graph in the second post “relative output”, what units is that I don’t understand how that works.
-The “Turbo” is rated at 2h 10m 5233 lumens. The graph shows in only running at that high for a few minutes and then it drops down dramatically. How can that be classified as 2h 10m when it really only sustains that for a short time? Is that just the fact that it stays in that “turbo mode” but not actually giving official turbo brightness?

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aoeu wrote:
Clarification please.

-The graph in the second post “relative output”, what units is that I don’t understand how that works.
-The “Turbo” is rated at 2h 10m 5233 lumens. The graph shows in only running at that high for a few minutes and then it drops down dramatically. How can that be classified as 2h 10m when it really only sustains that for a short time? Is that just the fact that it stays in that “turbo mode” but not actually giving official turbo brightness?

Unfortunately that is just how ANSI measurements work, output for the entire run is taken at 30 seconds to 3 minutes and runtime is taken until 10%. This leads to misleading figures for lights with a timed or thermal step-down in turbo mode for the reasons seen here. The specs of a number of other lights are similarly biased due to this system.

For a better idea of actual figures and loads of other info including beamshots and output tests then you should really take a look at selfbuilt’s original review: http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?380667-Niwalker-MiniM...REVISED-Prototype-Review-RUNTIMES

He’s also included a runtime test where he bumps it back up to turbo after each step-down (after a 10 minute cooling down period), which may give a better idea of what you are looking for regarding turbo runtime, it’s around 50 minutes.

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dazed1 wrote:
I dont get it? 4 mins on turbo and cells @50% is good? :/

It steps down to high after 4mins the cells aren’t depleted by 50%.

I want this light badly but im waiting for a few reviews before deciding to go with standard or modified. The problem with the modded version is it gets hot VERY fast and can be uncomfortable to hold after only 45 seconds. As much as I want the massive output Im not sure if this is making it a little impractical.

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Selfbuilt’s excellent review

I was so so close to getting one of Vinh’s.
In the end though I am a bit glad I didn’t. To me it seems like an floodier M6 with a showoff mode that can only be used for 90 seconds.

For the moment, I’ll stick with my SRK for flood…

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Just for information, when Vinh quotes a price, does that include the light price or is the light EXCLUDED?

If the former is the case, that is damn expensive.

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MountainKing wrote:
Just for information, when Vinh quotes a price, does that include the light price or is the light EXCLUDED?

If the former is the case, that is damn expensive.

Brand new light plus all accessories it comes with plus the modifications.

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Can the handle be removed?

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yes!

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maybe M4D M4X will return one day, but until then:

THANK YOU FOR YEARS OF YOUR SUPPORT AND FRIENDLY CONTACTS!

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2,000 lumens for 5 hours is very attractive. The price? Not so much.
Maybe.
Hmm.
I might get one tomorrow.

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Has anyone done any beamshot comparisons between this and the FF4. As much as I want one I’m having a hard time trying to justify it given I already have an FF4, because let’s face it neither would be used for much more than showing off. Haha

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