NiWalker Nova MiniMax MM15 2x Cree MT-G2 P0 5233lm LED 18650 Flashlight

I have few M6s already, although it’s not modded with #2 , I did simple resistor mod and it’s bright enough, it’s just that I never have Niwalker light before… especially double MT-G2s in 1 light… not too mention excellent run time :slight_smile:
Although I’m interested in Vinh’s MM15vn… but the price at HKequipment is hard to say no :heart_eyes: , I already put 2 in my cart until I have to explain to my wife why I need 2 of them…

BTW… the shelves is up again and this time all the lights took 3 shelves :weary:

Top shelf is for “premium” and heavy modded lights, middle shelf is for ” regular and modded light” and bottom shelf is for EDC lights :bigsmile:

My M6 was stock. I’m in the process of modding it, but it’s going slow.

The “way more than twice the torch” was more based on how I feel about the flashlight. I mean, amongst flashlight enthusiasts the M6 with 2000-2400L is nothing nowadays (how we are spoiled!). But the MM15 behaves really differently from most other lights out there, even aside from its 5200-6500L output. The very forward-mounted LEDs gives a bunch of spill, and the huge dies of the MT-G2s also contributes to spill. Most lights try to impress with a blinding hotspot - this thing will light up a 150 degree arc very brightly.

Also with all that, even non-flashaholics always comment about how it’s so small, how is it so bright? Every one of my other lights gets a, “That’s cool.” The MM15 gets a, “Holy crap!” :smiley:

Oh, and DayLighter, if you can afford 2x MM15s, you need to get the MM15vn Stage 1. Unless you’re a highly skilled modder, Vinh’s labor costs are very well worth it to me.

The $50 premium I paid over retail got me a light that’s been modded with a high level of reassurance from a guy that from what I know backs his stuff completely.

And the issue with the turbo runtime? The factory rates the turbo runtime over an hour, whereas the MM15vn can only do a few minutes, but that’s the compromise you make. When you’re over 5K lumens, each additional hundred lumen block adds dearly to cost, complexity, and heat. But most everyone here knows this, I’m just rambling for the most part.

$260 is a lot for a flashlight. And I don’t regret it at all. :slight_smile:

Good Day hkequipment, :slight_smile:
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Does your free shipping to Australia (Hong Kong Post) include tracking?
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Thank You Very Much,
Roberta 0:)

Sorry, my mistake, I’ll edit my posts. I had thought that even the P0 was 75-80 CRI, which many manufacturers refer to as high CRI (it seems I wasn’t the only one to make the mistake).

Anyway, even if it isn’t high CRI then the neutral tint with such a tight chromaticity bin (2-step Macadam, so no tint lottery) still adds to how impressive the efficiency figures are.

Clarification please.

-The graph in the second post “relative output”, what units is that I don’t understand how that works.
-The “Turbo” is rated at 2h 10m 5233 lumens. The graph shows in only running at that high for a few minutes and then it drops down dramatically. How can that be classified as 2h 10m when it really only sustains that for a short time? Is that just the fact that it stays in that “turbo mode” but not actually giving official turbo brightness?

Unfortunately that is just how ANSI measurements work, output for the entire run is taken at 30 seconds to 3 minutes and runtime is taken until 10%. This leads to misleading figures for lights with a timed or thermal step-down in turbo mode for the reasons seen here. The specs of a number of other lights are similarly biased due to this system.

For a better idea of actual figures and loads of other info including beamshots and output tests then you should really take a look at selfbuilt’s original review: Niwalker MiniMax Nova MM15 (2xMT-G2, 4x18650) REVISED Prototype Review: RUNTIMES+ | Candle Power Flashlight Forum

He’s also included a runtime test where he bumps it back up to turbo after each step-down (after a 10 minute cooling down period), which may give a better idea of what you are looking for regarding turbo runtime, it’s around 50 minutes.

It steps down to high after 4mins the cells aren’t depleted by 50%.

I want this light badly but im waiting for a few reviews before deciding to go with standard or modified. The problem with the modded version is it gets hot VERY fast and can be uncomfortable to hold after only 45 seconds. As much as I want the massive output Im not sure if this is making it a little impractical.

Selfbuilt’s excellent review

I was so so close to getting one of Vinh’s.
In the end though I am a bit glad I didn’t. To me it seems like an floodier M6 with a showoff mode that can only be used for 90 seconds.

For the moment, I’ll stick with my SRK for flood…

Just for information, when Vinh quotes a price, does that include the light price or is the light EXCLUDED?

If the former is the case, that is damn expensive.

Brand new light plus all accessories it comes with plus the modifications.

Can the handle be removed?

yes!

2,000 lumens for 5 hours is very attractive. The price? Not so much.
Maybe.
Hmm.
I might get one tomorrow.

Has anyone done any beamshot comparisons between this and the FF4. As much as I want one I’m having a hard time trying to justify it given I already have an FF4, because let’s face it neither would be used for much more than showing off. Haha

Keep in mind, vinh is a dealer, so he makes money on just the sale, like a dealer would. This is why he can keep the mod price low on new lights he sells, not all, but ones he is signed up as a dealer for. Think he makes that clear in his posts.

For the buyers, of course, it's a good deal for the modding work, but he's still making his money on the mod and sale - it's his business.

It maybe too bright (!!??!). I also don’t like the step-down feature. I think such a light is more for enthusiasts, and as such, the enthusiast should know when it’s time to turn down the light.

I’ll leave my bright, floody duty lights to my DRY and S6330vn lights. I am hoping to add a modded Yezl Y3 into that floody list (replacing XM-L2 with an MT-G2, which should give a good balance between flood and throw).

Rod - the Y3's pill top is 8 mm, 6 mm at the center where it dents in underneath, nice uni-body pill design, beauty for heat sinking. Ran mine for 12 mins on a FET based driver, figure about 5.5A with a XM-L2 on copper and it got pretty toasty though, slight smell of burning though I couldn't find anything burnt. Bottomline is just not enough mass for prolonged runs at such high amps, but difficult to find any light that can take that.

@ Tom E. Planning to mod the existing driver for 4A. It should put out around 2500 OTF lumens. Again, hoping to get some usability on the modded light should I wish to run it for extended periods of time.

On-topic - still a great price though. But I kind of having more diving lights on my list at the moment, so another reason for me to say no on this one. :slight_smile:

I love the Y3's - well designed for the cost. Got 4 in right now - 2 to go out, 2 keeping for now. I'm doing my own e-switch custom FET driver for them though - one cell.

I followed the reviews/threads on the MiniMax. Got one on the way - will probably experiment with resistor modding it, plus usual tweaks to the battery carrier and wires, etc. It's a one-of-a-kind right now, for that much power flood, in such a small package. Not crazy bout the temp limited turbo mode though - maybe can find a way to fool the temp sensor...

HKE's price on this light is the best around last I checked! Awesome deal! Plus a reputable dealer here for us.