Stock MM15 (at HK Equipment’s fantastic price, or not).
MM15 modded by Vinh (dome/dedome, current boost or not, tweaks to carrier/springs or not)
MM15 modded by owner.
Another competitive flooder (although there are few currently, stock or modded).
Wait for another “king of the hill.”
Ain’t choices grand in our hobby!!!
I though that would be the case, I was more curious though because doesn’t the FF4 also put out some 7000 lumens?
Let me air it out: I wished I would never have seen this offer. I keep checking the site, HOPING they are all sold out, that would solve my dilemma. I have about 30 lights after 3 years. I have no multiple emitter lights, and my most expensive light was like $65. And I want this light badly. Don’t know why, it’s just another light. But it would be $200 as I need cells also. Am I insane to spend $200 on a another flashlight, on this one? What could I get instead for $200? Quite a bit. I could get the Mountain M6 (but it’s more a thrower), and a Sunwayman D40A for $50 and have a lot left over. I have said YES and NO to this light so many times. Will logic and rationality win out? I don’t know. Hoping they run out still. What would I do with this thing I have read all the reviews on this light. I can well afford it, THAT is not the issue. Logic is. Is it logical? I have a light ‘on the way’ and I’m thinking of ordering another? What is the matter with me? I keep saying “ok, just this one more and then call it quits!” Nobody helps, you ALL just feed the addiction, if that is what it is.
This must end. It will either end with a purchase, or by them all being sold out.
(Selfbuilt will be doing reviews on this light, as he has received a manufacturer copy, and this light modded by vinh as he has received a couple of those as well. I believe they will be ready in around a week according to his post.)
another thought: if I got rid of my computer that would put an end to this sickness as well.
peace….
I hear you and I feel your “pain”, but here’s the messages from Niwalker:
WE ARE THE BORG. LOWER YOUR SHIELDS AND SURRENDER . WE WILL ADD YOUR BIOLOGICAL AND TECHNOLOGICAL DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR OWN. YOUR CULTURE WILL ADAPT TO SERVICE US. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.
“Nobody helps, you ALL just feed the addiction, if that is what it is.” (saypat)
I commiserate, Brother!
I did attend one meeting of FA (Flashaholics Anonymous), but all we did was recite the 12 Top Light Manufacturers, each told their own history of acquisitions, then broke into discussions of all the lights we were about to buy, mod and trade.
The meeting was sponsored by PayPal.
I believe I no longer have that same dilemma like what you are ‘suffering’ from now….How, you may ask?
Well, I simply imagine that I already own THAT light, and it has been with me for one week. Will I still be that excited to use THAT light tonight, will I still be that excited even just to take a look at it? Will it really be THAT something special compared to the other lights you are having/keeping now? (of which the most that you use is ONLY the one you EDC)
If the answers to those questions are all yes, maybe, just maybe, it’s time to buy that light.
I usually just buy it, receive it and only then think about whether I should have bought it. But by that stage it’s too late to decide not too. Haha
too funny Burgh.
just checked tracking and my $11 Convoy S2+ will be arriving in the next few days. Maybe that will satiate my thirst. Am I kidding? I think I am like a woman, I don’t need it, but if it’s on sale I’ll buy it!
Yes the FF4 has around 7000 lumens. However, you need a 4x increase in lumens to perceive a 2x increase in brightness. You’d definitely be able to see the brightness difference, but it wouldn’t be too much. Not to mention the MTG-2 is the most efficient emitter on the market right now. Also it doesn’t have warm up time so if you’re the type to turn on your light to check a noise outside HID is definitely not the way to go.
You’d see the difference easily but not because FF4 has more lumens but because it’s throwier. To human eyes focused beam appears brighter than the floody one.
Just got this light in. First impression is it’s very small. Installing the handle is a bit difficult because the integrated battery carrier blocks the allen wrench from fully spinning.
Also not sure if mines a defect but I have quite a bit of wobble on the handle. The screws bottom out before it tightens on the handle so there is a ton of wobble.
Not ideal but a few very small washers should fix that. Or you could grind down the screw and clean up the threads .
they started the thread on the 3rd, so if you ordered then, it only took 7 days to get here??? OK, it’s small and the handle is weird, I’m waiting for MORE, like those tandem MT-G2s! It took everything I had to resist purchasing this light. MORE please, thank you….
Shipping from hkequipment was very fast. I didn’t think it would be here so soon and I think I might have ordered a day or two after this thread was created too. Less than 7 days from HK to the west coast.
It is quite bright but I have not really tested it out much, still light out. The light gets warm very quickly on turbo. Heat coming out of the front end is also quite warm. The electronic switch is a bit mushy and doesn’t activate the light everytime its clicked. You need to push firmly for a connection. I wish the handle didn’t stick as far out, they should have kept it closer to the 2nd prototype but with just a little more room for fingers/gloves.
I personally think the second prototype had a good mount for the handle. It seemed sturdy and simple to take on and off. The way the handle is mounted now does not seem as sturdy and is a bit of a hassle with the included allen wrench. Here is a picture of some washers I found. I wanted to find something smaller to fit into the handle holes but didn’t have anything. With it installed the way I have it, the body tube tightens onto the handle and isn’t spinning closed as far it goes without the handle installed. Also a few pictures with a p60 light for comparison.
I can tell all that it is a real chore getting double-wrap protected batteries into the non-removable carrier. Yes, length was a chore, but doable. The width is more challenging.
I tore the black covers on two black EVVA 3400s.
Please someone answer.
1. Would Panasonic PF 2900 mah be better choice for this light compared to Panas green 3400 mah protected? (would both types fit?)
2. How much is the runtime before stepdown on turbo?
3. How is the heat management?
4. How much was the price when the light was in stock?
Thanks.
Yea I also tore the outside layer of a protected pana3400. The lip of the head where the battery slides across is a little sharp.
Anyone else have problems with the handle being loose? Am I doing something wrong? I’d prefer not to need the washers every time I take on and off the handle.
Can anyone please tell me coupon codes for general items on HKE? like one for all, i want to get some batteries and this light.
Hey man, all i see is 400 lumen for 330 minutes. Where do you see 2000 lumen for 5h plus? the top of the graph is stating 800lm.
Relative overall light output. Not lumens.