Cree XP-L, XM-L performance in an XP size package

Looks like a game changer! Especially for throwers.

When can I buy it? :)

Some observations:

-Its got slightly lower CRI than XP-G2 in CW. (65-CRI like XM-L2`s. Not 70 like XP-G2`s.)

-Same viewing angle as XM-L2. (125 degree. Not 115 like XP-G2.)

-Vf seems to be a tiny bit higher than both XM-L2 and XP-G2. (It might have lower VF compared to XP-G2 when both are at 3A though)

OK, I need some on Noctigons, NOW

wow can’t wait to try those, my guess ledil iris 4* for xpg should work with those too

omg :slight_smile:

The dome looks frosted

"Drop-in upgrade" for XP-G's -- nice! Dang, upgrade to my Noctigon triple in a S2? Sweet!

haha YES sweet!! :slight_smile:

anyone have measurements of the die? it looks bigger than the xp-g

edit: misinterpreted diagrams…

Same die size as xm-l2->no throw improvement.

X?-L …. maybe 2000 lumen+ we will see :wink:

Nope,all datasheet numbers say it's xm-l2,just in trimmed package.

Yeah it says the foot print is 3.45 x 3.45

10 watts in a XP die size? Better use Copper stars and then some. So, XM-L will be 20 watts? But maybe by them they will figure out how to hold the CRI. I wish Nichia would step up and make a larger die 90 CRI led.

Gree will have to call it something else. What's the next letter in line? XR-S or XR-T? Time for the Chinese flashlight manufacturers to step up and make some better heat sinking in ALL their lights.

Based on my calculations I see XM-L2 as having a 3mm by 3mm die, XP-L a 2.7mm by 2.7mm die and XP-G2 at 2mm by 2mm. I resized photos of each LED to they real size and measured the die by referencing the overall size of the LED.

I am talking about the die, not the footprint which the XP-L share the same with the rest of the XP family.

EDIT: I do not think one can rely 100% on the photos as the dome distorts the size of the die in comparison with the overall dimension of the footprint.

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Do you not truest Cree to tell you the truth? They give the sizes in the linked data.

XML - 5 x 5
XPG and the XPL - 3.45 x 3.45

Time for cells to increase capacity for high current loads.

Ejected Filament I do not think you understand what I am talking about.

Oh Ya, that's wut I'm talk'n bout - I don't care bout the dye, but the mounting is the important part. Triple Noctigons!! Well.. maybe the dye does make a difference with focusing, beam patterns, de-dome effects, etc...

Entirely probable.

I guess you mean the surface area covered in phosphor that emits light? The relevant bit to throw improvements? I had assumed we were talking about which mcpcbs would suit, my bad.

Here's my comparison. The photo provided by CREE for the XP-L is not the best, but in my calculations the die is just a bit smaller than XM-L2.