Just received 10 SRK's with no emitter shelf (aka heatsink), updated

Update the HS's came monday and Ive closed the PayPal claim however just by the way I was treated and the whole situation id recommend not using this seller, I really doubt he would of taken the time to send me one had I just ordered a single light, I'm pretty sure the only reason he helped me out was cause of the bulk order.

I just received 10 black 3x XM-L2 SRK's from an eBay vendor without emitter shelves, the triple board is screwed into the bottom of the reflector and just hangs there.

first off is this normal? I've handled several other SRK's (even the cheapest DX ones) and they have all hex a screw in shelf, these have the threads for them but no shelves.

The ebay seller is lucky_lyj, for now till this is resolved I'd recommend not buying any SRK's from them.

That’s the risk you take when buying SRK’s now that the market has been saturated with clone upon clone upon clone. Cheaper cheaper cheaper = lower quality build.

Seen it before. Happened with my latest SRK. Mentioned here.

I was going to ask in the thread where you posted the pics about the SRK`s about where you bought them since you took the chance to buy 10 pcs from someone.

Its always a gamble. The pill-less SRKs seems to be something that have gotten a bit more common in the later months as far as I have heard.

The worst part is it wasn’t even the lowest price’d one’s. There was a few vendors who were willing to go much lower, I paid normal price ~$33/ea shipped so I figured I was safe, I would of expected something had I went with the low bidder ($24.50/ea) but $33 is what I pay for Securitylng’s one at a time so it’s not like I searched around for the lowest price, I tried to CMA… I asked about the driver and emitters before hand and it was the good driver (JB-2014-1’s) and XM-L2’s so I figured they would be ok but no.

Waiting for a reply now, I told him as long as he would ship them just as fast I would be more than happy to just accept him giving me 10 shelves, I wasn’t going to demand he take these back and either replace them or do the work to add them so hopefully he’s (they’re) cool. As it stands now, using my personal SRK as an example to take photos of, I’m betting PayPal would side with me for an “item not as described” case, but hopefully it doesn’t come anything near that point.

But how is the item not as described?

Does it specifically say in the description that they come with a pill?

Im just asking...

Either of the highlighted examples should meet their definitions of SNAD, it is a blatently copy of the original SRK going as far as to be sold under that name and technically it’s missing major components.

Just because the heatsink is an internal part not visible to the average customer doesn’t mean it’s not a major component. If I bought a new computer and the CPU was missing its heatsink you couldn’t see that by looking at the out side but it would majorly effect the basic operation of the device…

The threads are there because a heat sink belongs there; it’s not an option — it’s part of the package:

The guy selling them got cheated by his supplier, one presumes.

That is totally SNAD. A thermal path to the body is critical. LED’s generate heat and that is why the body had cooling fins and such. I know you know that. Just giving you ammo for the claim. Demand a refund. This kind of crap needs to stop.

Unfortunately, yes. I have even received lights from a seller that I had previously purchased 40+ of the same light from that sent me a batch of 25 that were no good. You never quite know what you're going to get when you order these things.

Paging Bucket, I bet he could whip up some aluminum pills for you if the seller falls through and just offers a partial cash refund. While a super-thick shelf would be nice to have, I’m sure he could whip up something closer to the original thin piece at a reduced cost.

This is how my original gold SRK came…just a 3*XM-L 46mm aluminum star that sat on a shelf, no heatsink or anything, screwed directly to the back of the reflector

My new 6*XM-L2 I can’t even check because the bezel is glued on and so is the driver (and until I get my 3*XM-L one back up and running I don’t want to risk boogering up my only working SRK…even though the 3*XM-L was brighter than a 6*XM-L2 stock…bleh)

It even looks like they machined the threads off to make it a heatsinkless SRK too

There is a seller on Etsy that sells 50mm stamped copper rounds…going to get one of those and 3 XP-E/G 16mm sinkpads and direct solder bond them to that to rebuild my gold SRK…then might just go hole hog and fill the backside with say 1/4” of epoxy…can’t for the life of me understand why they would remove the heatsink threads…other than to make a buck off someone

sadly the clones of the real SRK are getting cheaper and cheaping out even more on design and parts. the emitters would likely burn the domes off, or melt the solder & fall off the triple-star after running for 10 minutes on high with a set of good high drain cells like 20Rs.

I’ve seen a bunch that have no threads for a heatsink, just a single triple/quad/etc MCPCB sitting on a 2-4mm lip. :weary:

This is the primary reason I recommend a Supfire M6 over any of the Chinese lottery SRK’s. Even at the SRK’s cheapest ~$25 it’s not worth the risk of getting a junk one. Spend a little more ($5-10 more, in most cases) and get a great quality flashlight.

This is why I've stuck with the gold Securitying: decent build quality, good stock driver, a threaded shelf, easy to mod. Who knows if that's what you're going to get if you order one today though? I had them send me a batch of crappy ones; I sent them back.

yeah i saw some go for 20-23$ on ebay was abit sus, i payed 75$ for my SRK when it first came out, my father uses it everynight for walks (hours or 2) for 2 years only now the threads worn off cannot be re attached. i thought it was 75$ well spent.

I hope things turn out well with getting some shelves or some kind of resolution. In the meantime… why did you pay Securitying prices for regular SRK clones? Did you not want the dumb name on them?

That was my total including (what turned out to be 3 day shipping from HK) and like I said these pretty much were securitylng’s- they have the red JB driver, the red negative contact board and they have XM-L2’s. My big attraction to them was the XM-L2’s reusing them I can save on buying 30 emitters @ $3 a piece so pretty much have to take $90 off that price.

The seller is being very responsive (tho quick to place blame with his suppliers), do you think I should open a paypal dispute now so he knows my intentions or just give him some time to figure out what to do? He has made it clear he doesnt have parts to send, so that leaves him finding them at some place over there and sending them to me, him paying me to pay bucket to make me them or just simply taking them back (him paying for shipping) and I get them from somewhere else.

Just for info, the light malls srk for $40 is the same! And that nice driver you are talking about has a 9926 fet, that can only give around 4.5A, not the nice fat one….
I think I also ordered my latest srk from the same supplier you are talking about…. :Sp
And can anyone please tell me where you can get a m6 for a few dollars more? ( Remembering that I am in South Africa, shipping is a bit of an issue…)
Thanks
Anton

4.2A, where are you getting these numbers? Maybe stock but these are great FET’s. I have built several of these exact drivers by piggybacking a ATTiny13A and they run ~18A of a set of 25R’s.

Maybe your talking about that’s the max from a resistor mod but these exact FET’s are capable of of nearly 5 times that when properly controlled, it’s the stock MCU that’s the problem.