(sold) 7,000 lumen 12x Mod. This has half the emitters de-domed plus more. $110 free shipping. Two sold last one ready

You’re not getting two lights but one light that counts as two pieces. That extension is the other half of the two pcs description.

I know this is a sales thread, but what exact light is this? There are at least a couple of UF 12X light form factors. Where is it from?

Since it's not mentioned, I assume you kept the stock LED's and stars? Kept the stock wires between the LED's? Just trying to figure out how you achieved this without resistor modding, unless it's one of the lights that are DD effectively...

The info I was given:

http://www.lightscastle.com/product/ultrafire-lw-12l2-cree-xm-l2-t6-7920…

It’s got great heat sinking and a very simple driver that is FET based so it cranks. I could actually crank it higher but it’s pointless. It gets screaming hot when it’s cracked up any more. It’s good right were it is. When I bumped it up more it didn’t do any good because thermal sag just dragged it back down. This seems to be optimal for it. It handles this heat well.
The emitters are just the old T6’s but they have a nice cool tint. The de-domed ones mix well with them and give it a cooler neutral. So it’s not quite neutral but close. It’s over 7,000 lumens with good batteries. King Kongs or Sony Green 30amps anything like that. Don’t bother trying to use protected batteries though. The amp draw is so high that it will pop the protection on them. But good high amp batteries run it great.
The low on it is right at 1,000 lumens and medium is about 4,000 lumens. Which is still unreal bright.
The emitters are actually on one large round star so it was really fun pulling six off and de-doming them and reflowing them back on. But I have it down now so it’s no problem. Just time consuming making sure to get them all on correctly.
It does get hot but surprisingly it handles it with no problem. But even so I would only use high as a turbo a couple minutes at a time at most.
The throw is surprising for a flooder. Some of it is just raw power but after de-doming it really added a bunch to it.

Ahhh, thanx! Ok - this is one of the new DD lights - useless on protected cells. This explains a lot... No resistor mod necessary.

This thread: https://budgetlightforum.com/t/-/25099 mentions the 9X and the 12X -- over 13A at the tail on the 9X! Sounds like fun Wink. Looks like 18sixfifty posted the order from this thread.

This seems like the best deal, only 8 left: amazon.com/SUPERNIGHT 12X

Justin - please be careful.... 18sixfifty did some nice tweaks, but the output is from sheer incredible power draw from the cells...

I'm trying to hit bout 5.5A tail on a 9X, and be happy with that...

Uh Tom… that amazon link showed 2 different version of the supernight 12X…black and grey on different body too… I wonder if the driver is the same for both?

Thanks for the heads up.

I have kinoko 26650 rated to 20a continuous discharge and also sony 26650 rated to 50a :slight_smile:

The link should just get you to the gray version (3rd pic). Choosing other pics is choosing completely different lights. My guess is the black 12X in the same style is probably the same driver, LED configuration, etc., but it's only a guess. The different 12X body style is probably very different.

Hmm. If that’s the case there’s a lot of misleading phrases in the description.

I got two of mine from Lightscastle and a third from an e-bay seller. They all had the same FET driver in them. It's this one.I have no idea if they all have this good driver though. So like any light it's really a crapshoot.

OK I sold two of these and now I’m going to sell the third one and buy a few more before they go and switch the driver out to a junk one.

Do you think ordering this: fasttech-ultrafire-lw-12l2-12-cree-xm-l2-t6 will get real XM-L2's? Looks like the same design/light but described and shows XM-L2's. I'm thinking it would be another crap shoot...

Lightscastle sent me the first one to review and it was supposed to be XM-L2. They said the supplier messed up so they had the supplier send me another one for free. Nope same XML’s in it. So Lightscastle gave up and changed their listing. It’s very hard to tell that there is a XML by looking at it. On first glance all you see is the little silver square that is right around the emitter. You have to take it apart or look kinda sideways and catch a reflection of the green board. It would be really easy to sell this as an XM-L2 and never know you messed up. It says something good about lightscastle that they changed their listing.

As for fasttech, who knows? You could try and contact them and make them look for the green reflection before sending it out. You seem to do pretty well with them when it comes to customer service. It would be nice if it was, so let me know if they confirm that they have the XM-L2’s.

edit: Looking at their picture it clearly has different spacers than the ones I have gotten.

I'll take it. Send me your paypal email please.

The single MBPCB is nicer to work with, like what you did with using better thermal grease. That would be a nightmare with 12 individual MBPCB's. I got a couple of TF TR-9T6's at a good price ($45), easy to resistor mod - identical driver to a J12/J18 (exact same layout). With 4.7A at the tail, I measured 4,700 lumens @30 secs. I could crank it up more, but concerned bout the heat sag with the small stars and cheap epoxy they use. I'm thinking just the single MBPCB alone is a nice advantage over the thin individual ones.

It sure makes centering them all a whole lot easier that’s for sure. I have remounted a 9x with sinkpads and thermal epoxy and that was a trip. Although re-flowing six while leaving the other six in place is a neat trick to pull off too. Two of the three Stars that I had had lousy thermal grease coatings, only about a third covered on each of them. The other one they did a good job on, not perfect but at least almost all coated and not super thick either. I sure wouldn’t want to run this light without the grease on it. I wondered why the two didn’t get hot that fast. LOL Although after putting the good stuff on it probably got hot twice as fast even on the one that was done well.

Question for you... how much does this light draw? Reason I ask is just trying to figure out if I need to buy more batteries. If up to 10A per cell is ok, I can test out with my existing batteries, if not I need to buy some more. (Nothing I have is rated at over 10A.)

I’m not really sure but it won’t run on the protected batteries I have. It pops the protection circuits or did for me anyway. It runs fine on either sony 30amps or king kong ICR’s. One battery will not even fire the star up without the driver in.

I'll try with three ncr18650pf... that should put out up to 30a. Does it have the 18650 spacers by any chance?

The one’s I got didn’t come with them, but I have some extras around. I’ll toss them in.