(sold) 7,000 lumen 12x Mod. This has half the emitters de-domed plus more. $110 free shipping. Two sold last one ready

Ahhh, thanx! Ok - this is one of the new DD lights - useless on protected cells. This explains a lot... No resistor mod necessary.

This thread: https://budgetlightforum.com/t/-/25099 mentions the 9X and the 12X -- over 13A at the tail on the 9X! Sounds like fun Wink. Looks like 18sixfifty posted the order from this thread.

This seems like the best deal, only 8 left: amazon.com/SUPERNIGHT 12X

Justin - please be careful.... 18sixfifty did some nice tweaks, but the output is from sheer incredible power draw from the cells...

I'm trying to hit bout 5.5A tail on a 9X, and be happy with that...

Uh Tom… that amazon link showed 2 different version of the supernight 12X…black and grey on different body too… I wonder if the driver is the same for both?

Thanks for the heads up.

I have kinoko 26650 rated to 20a continuous discharge and also sony 26650 rated to 50a :slight_smile:

The link should just get you to the gray version (3rd pic). Choosing other pics is choosing completely different lights. My guess is the black 12X in the same style is probably the same driver, LED configuration, etc., but it's only a guess. The different 12X body style is probably very different.

Hmm. If that’s the case there’s a lot of misleading phrases in the description.

I got two of mine from Lightscastle and a third from an e-bay seller. They all had the same FET driver in them. It's this one.I have no idea if they all have this good driver though. So like any light it's really a crapshoot.

OK I sold two of these and now I’m going to sell the third one and buy a few more before they go and switch the driver out to a junk one.

Do you think ordering this: fasttech-ultrafire-lw-12l2-12-cree-xm-l2-t6 will get real XM-L2's? Looks like the same design/light but described and shows XM-L2's. I'm thinking it would be another crap shoot...

Lightscastle sent me the first one to review and it was supposed to be XM-L2. They said the supplier messed up so they had the supplier send me another one for free. Nope same XML’s in it. So Lightscastle gave up and changed their listing. It’s very hard to tell that there is a XML by looking at it. On first glance all you see is the little silver square that is right around the emitter. You have to take it apart or look kinda sideways and catch a reflection of the green board. It would be really easy to sell this as an XM-L2 and never know you messed up. It says something good about lightscastle that they changed their listing.

As for fasttech, who knows? You could try and contact them and make them look for the green reflection before sending it out. You seem to do pretty well with them when it comes to customer service. It would be nice if it was, so let me know if they confirm that they have the XM-L2’s.

edit: Looking at their picture it clearly has different spacers than the ones I have gotten.

I'll take it. Send me your paypal email please.

The single MBPCB is nicer to work with, like what you did with using better thermal grease. That would be a nightmare with 12 individual MBPCB's. I got a couple of TF TR-9T6's at a good price ($45), easy to resistor mod - identical driver to a J12/J18 (exact same layout). With 4.7A at the tail, I measured 4,700 lumens @30 secs. I could crank it up more, but concerned bout the heat sag with the small stars and cheap epoxy they use. I'm thinking just the single MBPCB alone is a nice advantage over the thin individual ones.

It sure makes centering them all a whole lot easier that’s for sure. I have remounted a 9x with sinkpads and thermal epoxy and that was a trip. Although re-flowing six while leaving the other six in place is a neat trick to pull off too. Two of the three Stars that I had had lousy thermal grease coatings, only about a third covered on each of them. The other one they did a good job on, not perfect but at least almost all coated and not super thick either. I sure wouldn’t want to run this light without the grease on it. I wondered why the two didn’t get hot that fast. LOL Although after putting the good stuff on it probably got hot twice as fast even on the one that was done well.

Question for you... how much does this light draw? Reason I ask is just trying to figure out if I need to buy more batteries. If up to 10A per cell is ok, I can test out with my existing batteries, if not I need to buy some more. (Nothing I have is rated at over 10A.)

I’m not really sure but it won’t run on the protected batteries I have. It pops the protection circuits or did for me anyway. It runs fine on either sony 30amps or king kong ICR’s. One battery will not even fire the star up without the driver in.

I'll try with three ncr18650pf... that should put out up to 30a. Does it have the 18650 spacers by any chance?

The one’s I got didn’t come with them, but I have some extras around. I’ll toss them in.

Thanks, I appreciate it. I have two keeppower 22650's, and one king kong, but don't want to mix and match.

No problem and you for sure don’t want to mix and match with this light.

I’m reselling mine if anyone was interested and missed the limited run of these. Fantastic light, but never had a toilet plunger type of light before, hate em!! Too bulky.