balance charging 18650's / 26650's

yeah true, i make sure the charger is on every thing connected and you might get a little spark from the 6th battery when its connected but no worse then 2s or 3s ive noticed, but it should be no diffrent then connecting a 22.2c 6s lipo pack to the ballance port i hope and the way the adaptor is wired with the main charge cabes in series with the balance leads they should take some of the 22.2v dump.

the ichargers can take some abuse ive done some nasty stuff to it and it keeps going, but playing with such high voltage one should take caution, but i just halfed my balance charge time by 50% saving me around 4 hours for a slow balance charge.

ive done it this way to save using main charge leads and keep it simple so there is not a mess of working out where all the 6 balance wires goes, trying to keep it simple much easier to conect the batteries and the way the heat shrink is used with the way the magnets are soldered it make connection easy you dont realy have to think about what goes where, its only good for low c charging rates, but the next one will be a single 6s balance lead with a flat pack battery holder and the leads will be fixed no magnets as they are not the easiest thing to solder.

i feel a icharger 206b comming on, my power suply will handle it at the max 20 amp max charge and it would be good for parrallel balance charging 6 rc lipo packs at once as with this one im limeted to 10 amps max and then i can make up some 8s balance charge leads for my 18650,s as 6 is ok but 8 would be better.

Lol, its always like that, more more more! Hobbyking to the rescue!

Regarding the sparking, definitely more on 6S, I can see the blue light flashing through my balance connects when I connect the 6 cell batteries to the charger. The charger balance pins are changing shape due to the "welding" that occurs every time I plug one in. So I let the damage occur on the 6 cell 2 pack adapter that you have shown in the pics.

Where abouts are you in WA? Id love to see your setup some time.

ill send you a message

lol, a fair way away by perth standards.. too far for the beam of my throwiest torch to reach... But the BLF is great.

I wonder if anyone else uses these hobby chargers, and how they use them.

I have many LiIon chargers and often use them, but I do also use hobby chargers. I have two of these:

Where I can charge two cells in parallel.

For special size cells I have made made a clamp into a battery holder:

I always uses the hobby chargers to charge odd size batteries and when I want to charge fast, for regular charging I sometimes use the hobby charger, sometimes one of the other LiIon charges and if I need to charge many batteries I can have more than 6 chargers running.

I often use hobby charges to get a check on my LiIon cells, how much capacity they have left or when I want to discharge a cell.

i like that clamp HKJ very handy and thats a luminous battery holder you linked me before, i still cant make up my mind for a flat pack or compack 6s battery holder for balancing.

im sure you would know but with the ichargers you can check the internal resistance of your batteries, it also will show resistance in charge leads, but the best part is checking the internal resistance of the batteries you can see them go down hill over time and how the batteries are charged affects the internal resistance.

ive seen some of my lipo,s go down hill fast with parrallel charging due to voltage diffrence, they dont like voltage diffrence, they can handle huge discharge rates but not charge rates.

another bonus with the icharge as im sure you know you can check an alter the calibration if needed, upgrade the firmware online and do logveiw to see how the batteries perform and adjust the sensitivity for charging nimh witch i find is good, they are cheap i dont know why more dont have them.

i spoke to my old man last night, i gave him a jetbeam bc40 and a couple of trustfire flames batteries as a gift with a single charge cradle i made, he told me it takes to long to charge one by one, so i will give hime my 2s balance charge lead and ill make another and ill make a 4s blance charge lead for myself as well.

ill have to get him a decent charger his imax b6 over charges and sets off the over voltage protection, hes had it for 5 or so years, the imax b6 ive played with normaly under charge and dont do nimh well, i can see him ending up with my 106b+ as i need some thing with more amperage for rc.

i have not seen DasFriek on for a bit i wounder how his set up is going ?

Where do you get the plugs that go into the balance ports (on the Turnigy Accucell 6 in my case). I have even tried ebay, and while I can get made up cables for various battery packs, it does not look like I can find the plugs themselves easily.

I bought a JST-EH adaptor board with the Turnigy. That looks useful - so I guess I would be looking for EH type plugs. Or I could buy a whole pack of JST-XH plugs for the 6S port on the Turnigy, and only wire up each plug for the config I want?

I want to have a setup for 2S, 3S and 4S. I cannot imagine using any more than that. Currently (until I get this wiring issue worked out), I am simply using magnets and charging in series.

Sure - but the Turnigy Accucell 6 is currently only $22. Delivered to my door for around $32. That is less than HALF of the price of the iCharger. I have only had my Turnigy for a few hours, but so far it seems just fine for charging torch batteries. I don’t think I would use one if I was a serious R/C hobbyist, but as an alternative to AA, AAA and 18650 chargers, it seems like a good bet.

I think if I was a serious R/C nut, I would look at something like the Hyperions, myself.

the Turnigy Accucell 6 is currently only $22 for a reason mate.

any way ive found it easier to get jst-xh extention leads and just cut off the female plug, the jst-xh are the most common.

since your in australia

2s

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160589062439&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

3s

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/JST-XH-JST-XH-3S-20cm-Charger-Extension-Cable-LIPO-/280502129815?pt=AU_Toys_Hobbies_Radio_Controlled_Vehicles&hash=item414f3ad497

4s

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160580876761&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

5s i think these will be way to short for 5 x 18650,s in series like ive been doing.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/JST-XH-5S-18-5v-Lipo-Balance-Wire-Extension-Lead-20cm-/160580878795?pt=AU_Toys_Hobbies_Radio_Controlled_Vehicles&hash=item25635dc1cb

6s i think these will be way to short for 6 x 18650,s in series like ive been doing.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320700477513&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

silicone wire

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320661932596&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

4mm bullet connectors to plug into the main charge ports, with heat shrink

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160580835674&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

rare earth magnets if you want to keep using them and need more

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300558237544&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

heat shirnk for the balacne wires you can use 2 or 3mm found on ebay for about $1.80 a meter like this stuff

red

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350341140012&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

black

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350409535922&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

these are all from aussie sellers i belive, but if you want longer jst-xh balance wire extentions ive been getting a few of these from 30 to 45 cm,s i rather be looking at the extra lenght then looking for it i rather have to much then not enough, but its from the usa post time is around 2 weeks.

http://stores.ebay.com.au/BackBay-R-C-Accessories/_i.html?rt=nc&_nkw=jst%20xh&_sid=12622736&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1581&_pgn=4

or if you want to go even cheaper again but have a few week wait for shipping these guys are good.

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/index.rc

i hope this helps

Thanks for the links. Am looking at getting a few of them as we speak. The short leads don't bother me - I can simply solder on more lead if required.

no worries im happy to help and im not sponsored by ebay lolls just i can not get this stuff localy, also more joins adds more resistance, but thats being anal it should not be a problem till you hit 5s and 6s balancing like the set ups ive done but there is many ways to do it, i also ment jst-xh is the most common not jst-hx a typo there i have edited it, have fun.

my old man pinched my 2s balance charge lead for his torch so i had to make another, i used shorter 22 awg 20 cm 2s balance extention lead and cut of the female end and used 18 awg main charge leads as the bigger stuff is not needed for these low charge rates and the usual male 4mm bullet connectors to plug in to the charger, lucky i had 3 magnets left over from my other leads i made.

i brought a 2 x 18650 and a 6 x compact 18650 battery holder from here to make up some better balance charging set ups.

http://www.luminousdiy.com/Light%20Kits%20and%20Parts.htm#holders

looks like they will only be sold to the 1/10/11 ?

here is a link for cheap 18650 battery holders

http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?lang=en&site=US&KeyWords=18650+battery+holder&x=26&y=24

it might only be good for usa customers as shipping to australia for one battery holder is $30 usd....

I have got my battery holders from www.luminousdiy.com its a pity Chris is no longer going to be selling them

2 x 18650 and a compact 6 x 18650 (3 top 3 bottom)

I'm going to make these into balance charging box,s

2S balance revision 0

ill neaten it up a bit but so far i like it better then the magnets.

3 different brands, 3 different battery voltages and 3 diffrent mAh ratings

4 different brands and 6 different battery voltages 4 diffrent mAh ratings

the best thread on this topic on the inet, thanks!!

( and i have given up on hobby chargers. i dont feel ready for them hehe. lemme continue to watch my powerex )

What will be best balanced Charger? to charge all types of cells ranging from Lead Acid,Nicd,Nimh,Lion,Lipo etc,& still is cheap reliable & has a good lifetime

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=6792 (Is this Genuine ?)


http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__5548__IMAX_B6_Charger_Discharger_1_6_Cells_GENUINE_.html

If u have other suggestion then or experience with these charger then plz share,

Is it safe to purchase from Hobby King ?

I have an IMAX B6AC and find it great!

the only thing I do not like is the low discharge current (1A only)

I bought it from hobbyking, so good .. is genuine!

Icharger certainly is better but costs twice..