DQG 18650 EDC--World's Smallest 18650 Flashlight

FYI It’s $35 shipped on their retail site: http://www.fancyflashlights.com/goods.php?id=632 (prices on this site include “free” shipping) also listed is the Panasonic 3100mAh 18650 [Plus $5.00]

Yes exactly he lowered the price after some of us paid the full retail + shipping as I stated above, I paid $38.43
I’m fully aware cnqg charges shipping & FF prices include shipping; still doesn’t change what I stated and has occurred, the facts remain the same.

So I guess it used to be more than $35 on FF. I figured it was $35 on both sites and CNQG charges shipping but FF does not, that’s why I said about it being $35 from FF and shipped free (since you paid $35 plus shipping on CNQG) but I see now the prices on FF are higher than CNQG so the shipping isn’t really free, I guess he lowered the price on FF too.

If buying only one light does it cost less to buy on FF or CNQG? or does it work out the same? I thought CNQG was only for wholesale if you were buying several lights, I guess I don’t really understand why the two sites.

Anyway I agree it doesn’t seem right to lower the price so soon after the pre sale promotion, not that you’d need or want to buy anything else from him but I would complain to Ric about it and ask if he could give you a shop credit for the difference. Or if you used paypal maybe he could just credit you the difference on paypal. Nothing to lose to ask.

I don’t understand the real purpose of both sites ethier, the prices come out the same with shipping from ethier site, and Yes I did complain about the price drop which happened before I even recieved the light; but he did nothing about it. J)

Somehow I’m not totally blown away by this flashlight, I like the NW tint and yes its small and bright, but…

This is my first twisty I don’t think I like twisty lights, except for maybe a keychain light.

Also the pocket clip moves around on it, its not super loose but its not solid either, it moves easier that I like. Maybe I could super glue it?

Also I think I need to find the right protected battery (shorter than the Xtar I have in it) so the twist action is easier. I tried a much shorter unprotected battery and now I think the spring has been compressed, because it acted flakey and would change modes if you tap on the tail.

Even though its longer and has a greenish tint, for 18650 EDC I often select my Olight S20 over the DQG, I think because of its side switch and it’s slightly thinner at the head and tube.

The reason I got this was I thought the battery would last a lot longer than a 14500 light, and it probably will, but now I think I may go back to a 14500 for EDC.

The DQG is only slightly larger than most 14500 lights but I now see that little bit makes a big difference (IMO) for EDC. I’m waiting for the ZL sc52w reviews when it comes out, I want to see how warm its NW tint is to decide on NW or CW.

I’m going to keep an eye out for other side switch equipped compact size lights. I think a side switch is where its at for me.

I’m still waiting for a replacement board and LED for mine. I haven’t updated my review as I thought it fair to wait and see what happened, however once the bits arrive I’ll do a proper update.

Summary:

Despite solving the initial flickering problems with mine (due to the badly finished edge on the body tube). I since found that selecting High was almost impossible and somewhat of a lottery. Selecting Low and Med work everytime, but it takes maybe 9 to 15 attempts to get it to select High and never consistently.

I’ve used different cells and even used the 18650 Tiny head on my EagleTac body as it fits, but still get the same result, so it is 100% an issue with the head/board/LED causing this an not the body tube like my earlier issues.

Such a shame as apart from operation it really is a nice light, but in it’s current state it’s too much of a PITA and annoyance to use, so it’s sitting on the shelf collecting dust. :frowning: :frowning: :frowning:

Ric has shipped out a new driver/LED along with one of the $6 unprotected Panasonics he recommends. I didn’t really want the battery, but thought it was a good way to eliminate any further issues being due to the battery. These bits have been in transit for a few weeks now, so hoping they might turn up soon.

That said, I do find it surprising and slightly concerning that any torch should have an unprotected ICR as the “recommended” battery.

I’m looking forward to getting the light working and hoping Ric will come good on all of this. Although I can’t help feeling it is slightly sloppy design that a torch is designed not to fit the common batteries it’s suppose to use.

Surely an extra 1mm in diameter and 2mm in length would have done nothing to harm sales or real world pocket size of this light, but would have allowed any protected 18650 to work with it?

Update: I emailed Ric about the ‘greenhead’ issue. He responded quickly saying he would send out a new head piece (in addition to a coated BTU lens).
Once I have both, I’ll probably attempt to disassemble and mod one of them for a different emitter. Just to see how difficult it will be.

I have mostly unprotected 18650s, but the few protected ones I have, including an EagTac 3100 and several different UltraFires, work fine in the ones that I got. Just an FYI…

4 layers of Teflon tape to threads made the difference, no more head play

So.. why hasnt nobody put a 3up in this one?

If you purchase one of these now are all the teething problems now fixed?

I am sure the bad heatsinking of the led is not fixed because that requires a complete different design of the way the led is mounted (not on the non-metal core driver board) and that might not be possible within the limited length of the body, which was one of the most attractive features of this light.

I just got mine today. Tail had a few dings on the corners, and they are so bitchy about battery lengths I couldn’t believe it wouldn’t work with my flat tops! :frowning: So I put a solder blob on top of my 3400mah panasonic and she fired right up!

My first twisty, pretty funky I must say.

And damn does the head get hot! Doesn’t seem to conduct heat down to the body tube :frowning:

Very bight, 100% better tint than my SC600 MKII (looks so green beside it), lol.

Super super light, very impressed so far.

-Jamie M.

Are you saying the 3400 mah protected Orbtronic did NOT work? I have an extra one of those and also a NCR 3400 mah protected panasonic cell which is 68.9mm, the same size as the orbtronic!

Thanks…….

If none of those work, I probably won’t get it.

2 Days ago I received my DQG tiny 18650 from CNQG’s black friday sale.
Unfortunately it does not turn on.
I tried different batteries but not the slightest sparkle comes out of it.
I already emailed them but have not got a reply yet.

But I was wondering if there is some known problem or something that I could try to get it working?

I have around 0% experience in repairing flashlights.
I already tried unscrewing the lens, head, body and tailcap and putting it back togheter again.
I once read somewhere that problems could be due to the clicky switch, but this has twisty so that’s not it. But to test that you should make a connection to the negative end of the battery and the bare threading. I did that with my multimeter. It gives me the battery voltage so the circuit is okay but the light won’t power on.

Is there anything else I could try or is it just a matter of waiting untill their customer service responds?
Thank you!

I also got it in wensday. I first noticed a bit ringy beam, second, it does sometimes flicker when changing modes, so, for example, when u switch it from low to medium or medium to high, if it flickers inbetween, you end up with low mode again. Always starts on low tho, which is not bad for me. And yes, it doesn’t like protected cells, cause of the flat - pole(reverse polarity protection). Also, the clip is very very tight. What else can i say? I got it 30% cheaper as Rick offered 50 coupons and was lucky to grab one on time so i’m not as bothered with the issues it has.

As a follow-up on my previous post.
Ric contacted me to help me find the problem.
It was the reversed polarity protection in the tail cap. After removing the foam in the tail cap everything works!
Thanks Ric!

I bought one in August, 1013. The light is bright and small. Great potential. But the firmware designer apparently failed to include switch debounce code, so that every time you rotate the switch off-then-on again it detects some random number of switches, and the mode it switches to is completely random. To get what you want you have to try over and over.

Remember though, firmware was in it's infancy in 1013.

they did not envision the y2k issue back then :bigsmile: :smiley: