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Anyone want to get a Kickstarter campaign started for a new lithium ion battery with much higher capacity? It's an 18650 battery that has...wait for it...6000mAh. I've been kicking around names. What do you think of "Ultrafire"?

UranusFilk :smiley:

Sounds legit. I went ahead and pulled the trigger on the $1K package. I could use 8 more batteries & chargers for some of my children toys. :wink:

Quite sad to see people using Kickstarter to scam others. Using catch phrases like graphene certainly does help boost scams whoops I mean sales.

Reminds me of solar powered roads.

Relevant: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/calif-airbnb-squatters-history-startup-scams-milked-40g-kickstarter-donors-report-article-1.1883648

Some fishy or almost clear scams on Kickstarter or Indigogo that seems to be get funded or extra-funded.

On other forums has been talked about funded projects that went to nothing and plausible explanations have been given why they cannot be fulfilled, even if theoretically you pay for a project that is supposed to be tested and thought out from the beginning, so later excuses don't make sense since you need to have have a working device.

There's some humongous projects like the glass road with LEDs in it, which caused great controversy, successfully funded with $2.2M USD, overfunded from the $1M USD goal.





I have a design in the works for a device that converts dog turds into gold bricks, how much do you think I could raise on Kickstarter?

That one was a bit different since funding only paid for development, and $2.2M is a drop in the bucket for that. It's annoying that the funding page didn't make that obvious though, so lots of people kept pointing out how current tech doesn't allow this to be feasible at this point.

There are different crowd funding platforms, some which can be used only to pay to help someone complete something without the funders getting anything, and some like Kickstarter where the funder is supposed to get some type of reward if the project is successful.

They're all pretty easy to scam, but I suppose it's not really a scam if you work within the system, like this guy did to make $55K to make potato salad.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/324283889/potato-salad

$2m. I’ll be your top tier backer. :stuck_out_tongue:

OK.

Have you see the EEVblog view of the project? Seemed a fair judgment. Especially the day/night, dirt, clouds, etc. critical points.

You need more buzzwords and then you’ll do well…

'Nano-Quantum Molecular Recombiner'?

No I haven't. Did they cover current tech or what it might be as it continues to be developed using ever more efficient solar panels? I only skimmed through the video. I was trying to say that evaluating it based on current technology is pointless. Of course it's not feasible. The same thing could have been said with any land based solar system until now, and most solar systems still aren't cheaper than traditional power sources. Thankfully wiser minds continued developing it instead of giving up because it wasn't feasible at the time.

You forgot to use the word “green”, that one works everytime.

In fact the biggest source of “crowd funding” is the U.S. Government.
The crowd is us taxpayers and the funding is the taxes we pay.

And almost every Alternative energy company that they have funded in the past has gone bankrupt.

list of faltering or bankrupt green-energy companies:

Evergreen Solar ($25 million)*
SpectraWatt ($500,000)*
Solyndra ($535 million)*
Beacon Power ($43 million)*
Nevada Geothermal ($98.5 million)
SunPower ($1.2 billion)
First Solar ($1.46 billion)
Babcock and Brown ($178 million)
EnerDel’s subsidiary Ener1 ($118.5 million)*
Amonix ($5.9 million)
Fisker Automotive ($529 million)
Abound Solar ($400 million)*
A123 Systems ($279 million)*
Willard and Kelsey Solar Group ($700,981)*
Johnson Controls ($299 million)
Brightsource ($1.6 billion)
ECOtality ($126.2 million)
Raser Technologies ($33 million)*
Energy Conversion Devices ($13.3 million)*
Mountain Plaza, Inc. ($2 million)*
Olsen’s Crop Service and Olsen’s Mills Acquisition Company ($10 million)*
Range Fuels ($80 million)*
Thompson River Power ($6.5 million)*
Stirling Energy Systems ($7 million)*
Azure Dynamics ($5.4 million)*
GreenVolts ($500,000)
Vestas ($50 million)
LG Chem’s subsidiary Compact Power ($151 million)
Nordic Windpower ($16 million)*
Navistar ($39 million)
Satcon ($3 million)*
Konarka Technologies Inc. ($20 million)*
Mascoma Corp. ($100 million)
*Denotes companies that have filed for bankruptcy.

And the alternative is...? Burn more coal? Nice rant though, you should run for office.

Nice sound bite!, you should run against me. :wink:

What I’m pointing out here is that this fool in the video is small time. There are much bigger players playing the same game.

Kickstarter should really work on killing scams. I don’t know about others but when I hear “kickstarter” I think scam. Certainly there have been some legitimate great kickstarters.

Yeah…scams wouldn’t be as big a problem if kickstarter held the “donations” until the project was actually produced…and then people can cancel their donations until the actual release

this way scammers just don’t get buckets of cash until “production” time

If they fail to produce…well then like paypal…they don’t get paid

Funds are usually used to produce the products. Holding funds won’t work here. The kickstarter company just doesn’t bother to vet projects, or even look at them at all.