I think it would be better to just update the OP with the new information. Keeps it more clean so we don't have to scroll down to get the information. Thanks for your hard work Don.
Please note the various qualifications and caveats in the first post. There are likely errors in the method and measurement, not to mention calibration but the lux numbers for comparison are reliable for comparison with other lights measured on the same lightbox as the method is consistent.
Light | Battery | Lightbox H | Lightbox M | Lightbox L | Estimated lumens on high |
Fenix E01 | AAA | 37 | 8 | ||
MDXL "3W" | NiMH | 77 | 17 | ||
TiKey | 3xLR44 | 81 | 18 | ||
BLF DeLight | NiMH | 85 | 19 | ||
Powerlight | NiMH | 94 | 21 | ||
Aurora SH0031 | Alk. AAA | 142 | 32 | ||
Ultra-budget C3 clone | 2xNiMH | 163 | 36 | ||
Akoray K-106 | NiMH | 222 | 49 | ||
Golston "7W" | 2xRCR123 | 390 | 87 | ||
Trustfire XP-E F23 | AAA NiMH | 396 | 33 | 88 | |
Smallsun ZY-C85 full zoom | 14500 | 456 | 101 | ||
Uniquefire S10 | NiMH | 575 | 128 | ||
Trustfire F22 | NiMH | 586 | 249 | 55 | 130 |
Romisen RC-C6 | RCR123 | 618 | 166 | 137 | |
Aurora SH-035 | NiMH | 644 | 201 | 26 | 143 |
Hugsby P32 | NiMH | 650 | 189 | 144 | |
Trustfire R5-A3 | NiMH | 650 | 360 | 144 | |
Smallsun ZY-C85 | 14500 | 654 | 145 | ||
Uniquefire AA-S1 | NiMH | 665 | 148 | ||
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5 | NiMH | 718 | 249 | 49 | 160 |
Aurora SH-033 | RCR2 | 744 | 221 | 33 | 165 |
Solarforce L2R Solarforce low voltage R2 | 2xNiMH | 779 | 173 | ||
Aurora SH-035 | 14500 | 785 | 250 | 36 | 174 |
Trustfire XP-E F23 | 10440 | 850 | 82 | 189 | |
MX Power ML-310 | 14500 | 857 | 220 | 190 | |
Trustfire Z1 | RCR123 | 889 | 82 | 198 | |
Ultrafire WF-502B R2 single mode | 18650 | 940 | 209 | ||
a first batch Aurora SH-034 | RCR123 | 1016 | 304 | 39 | 226 |
Akoray K-106 | 14500 | 1077 | 239 | ||
Ultrafire WF-504B with the 5 mode R2 | 18650 | 1102 | 449 | 168 | 245 |
Uniquefire S10 | 14500 | 1112 | 247 | ||
Trustfire F22 | 14500 | 1210 | 535 | 115 | 269 |
Trustfire F22 | 14500 | 1254 | 563 | 122 | 279 |
Ultrafire RL-118 | RCR123 | 1260 | 145 | 280 | |
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5 | 14500 | 1391 | 620 | 128 | 309 |
ROP Low | 6D NiCd | 1401 | 311 | ||
Uniquefire AA-S1 | 14500 | 1445 | 321 | ||
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5 | 18650 | 1565 | 164 | 84 | 348 |
Trustfire R5-A3 | 14500 | 1600 | 576 | 356 | |
Ultrafire WF-503B DX MC-E | 18650 | 1636 | 675 | 364 | |
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E | 18650 | 1735 | 665 | 237 | 386 |
Solarforce L2M DX P7 | 18650 | 1956 | 199 | 435 | |
Ultrafire Wf-504B KD MC-E | 18650 | 2310 | 1575 | 61 | 513 |
Ultrafire WF-501B M bin MC-E | 18650 | 3220 | 1237 | 165 | 716 |
ROP High | 2x32600 | 3250 | 722 | ||
Varapower prototype | 4C NiMH | 8290 | 1842 |
Edit: By calculation, the R5-A3 should be no more than 280 lumens which is what I think it should be. From the DX spec it is driving the LED at 1300mA. The R5 bin is 463-493 lumens at 1500mA. So, by calculation 13/15 x 493 = 427 lumens though it'll be less than that as the output is not linear with current. The conventional reckoning is that 70% of the LED's output makes it out the front so at best the output is 280-299 lumens rather than the 356 lumens my lightbox/meter/calculations come up with.
Makes sense. I'll see if anyone wants any more measurements - if I've got it I'm happy to measure it - the measuring just takes a few seconds to do.
Once that's done I'll tidy up the first post, add comments and qualifications and put in the best data I can get. I've had to work every day for the last month or so, but a colleague has kindly offered to cover this weekend for me so if it works out, I get my first weekend off since June. Then I'll do the tidying. If not it'll get done shortly.
Thanks for all of your hard work Don. I don't care what everyone around here says about you because you're alright in my book.
Thanks for the vote of confidence :) ;)
Hey Don what about the bargain of the century the MRV lunapower.. also i don't suppose you have any runtimes on said light do you?
I will get to it at the weekend if the wonderful Pam is working for me. If not, I'll get it done ASAP.
Thanks Don your a STAR !!!
Very nice Don! This is an excellent resource. It's on the frontpage and sticky'd.
Quick suggestion: If you select all the cells in the table and click on cell properties you can set the border color to #000000. It would look like this:
Light | Battery | Lightbox H | Lightbox M | Lightbox L | Estimated lumens on high |
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E | 18650 | 1735 | 665 | 237 | 386 |
Ultrafire WF-501B M bin MC-E | 18650 | 3220 | 1237 | 165 | 7162 |
Ultrafire WF-503B DX MC-E | 18650 | 1636 | 675 | 364 | |
Ultrafire Wf-504B KD MC-E | 18650 | 2310 | 1575 | 61 | 513 |
Thanks for all the hard work Don!
I'll certainly clean it up - at the moment it is just copied and pasted from a spreadsheet - I hope I can make a much better looking table once I've got all the data together.
The biggie for me is the errors - I got bitten hard by that once in a lab job. If my results had been correct, someone was going to jail - it turned out my results depended only on how long the spectrophotometer had been switched on... :(
I plan to go through the light collection and get numbers for most of them. Since I'm doing instantaneous peak readings they only take a few seconds each - it takes longer to make sure I'm using fully charged cells in everything than it does to take the measurements.
Don't you think it would be more useful to take the reading after at least 30 seconds or so - not going for the highest output, but real-life performance?
IMO it makes the comparison more practical...
Can do. It might be interesting to have both. This suit? The numbers are on the whole lower as I just grabbed cells that were lying around.
Light | Battery | Lightbox Immediate | Lightbox 30 seconds | Lightbox 2 Minutes |
Fenix E01 | AAA | 37 | 33 | 32 |
Powerlight 1 | NiMH | 64 | 64 | 62 |
MDXL "3W" | NiMH | 69 | 72 | 73 |
TiKey | 3xLR44 | 81 | 71 | 64 |
BLF DeLight 1 | NiMH | 135 | 144 | 128 |
Aurora SH0031 | Alk. AAA | 142 | 99 | 100 |
Ultra-budget C3 clone | 2xNiMH | 144 | 111 | 83 |
Uniquefire AA-S1 | NiMH | 565 | 557 | 531 |
Akoray K-106 | 14500 | 1055 | 1019 | 1004 |
Uniquefire S10 | 14500 | 1112 | 1017 | 962 |
Trustfire F22 | 14500 | 1254 | 1128 | 1030 |
Uniquefire AA-S1 | 14500 | 1255 | 1183 | 1162 |
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5 | 14500 | 1391 | 1259 | 1122 |
Trustfire R5-A3 | 14500 | 1630 | 1482 | 1416 |
ROP High | 2x32600 | 3760 | 3600 | 3080 |
Varapower prototype | 4C NiMH | 8650 | 8330 | 6260 |
Very nice job Don. Thanks
Looking really good!
Light | Battery | Lightbox Immediate |
Fenix E01 | AAA | 37 |
Powerlight 1 | NiMH | 64 |
MDXL "3W" | NiMH | 69 |
TiKey | 3xLR44 | 81 |
Lumapower MRV SE Low | 18650 | 110 |
BLF DeLight 1 | NiMH | 135 |
Aurora SH0031 | Alk. AAA | 142 |
Ultra-budget C3 clone | 2xNiMH | 144 |
Mrlite Lipstick | AAA NiMH | 214 |
Akoray K-106 | NiMH | 222 |
Golston "7W" | 2xRCR123 | 390 |
Trustfire XP-E F23 | AAA NiMH | 396 |
Smallsun ZY-C85 full zoom | 14500 | 456 |
Uniquefire AA-S1 | NiMH | 565 |
Uniquefire S10 | NiMH | 575 |
Trustfire F22 | NiMH | 586 |
Romisen RC-C6 | RCR123 | 618 |
Lumapower MRV SE Medium | 18650 | 630 |
Aurora SH-035 | NiMH | 644 |
Hugsby P32 High | NiMH | 650 |
Trustfire R5-A3 | NiMH | 650 |
Smallsun ZY-C85 | 14500 | 654 |
Akoray K-103 | 10440 | 697 |
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5 | NiMH | 718 |
Aurora SH-033 | RCR2 | 744 |
Solarforce L2R Solarforce low voltage R2 | 2xNiMH | 779 |
Aurora SH-035 | 14500 | 785 |
Trustfire XP-E F23 | 10440 | 850 |
MX Power ML-310 | 14500 | 857 |
Solarforce Skyline 1 | 2 CR123 | 880 |
Trustfire Z1 | RCR123 | 889 |
Ultrafire A30B | RCR123 | 909 |
Ultrafire WF-502B R2 single mode | 18650 | 940 |
a first batch Aurora SH-034 | RCR123 | 1016 |
Akoray K-106 | 14500 | 1055 |
Ultrafire WF-504B with the 5 mode R2 | 18650 | 1102 |
Uniquefire S10 | 14500 | 1112 |
Trustfire F22 | 14500 | 1254 |
Uniquefire AA-S1 | 14500 | 1255 |
Ultrafire RL-118 | RCR123 | 1260 |
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5 | 14500 | 1391 |
ROP Low | 6D NiCd | 1401 |
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin | 2 RCR123 | 1437 |
Lumahunter MRV SE | 18650 | 1462 |
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5 | 18650 | 1565 |
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin | 18650 | 1578 |
Trustfire R5-A3 | 14500 | 1630 |
Ultrafire WF-503B DX MC-E | 18650 | 1636 |
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E | 18650 | 1735 |
Solarforce L2M DX P7 | 18650 | 1956 |
Ultrafire WF-500 | 2 18650 | 2020 |
Ultrafire Wf-504B KD MC-E | 18650 | 2310 |
Aurora AK-P7 | 18650 | 2420 |
Ultrafire WF-501B M bin MC-E | 18650 | 3220 |
ROP High | 2x32600 | 3760 |
Varapower prototype | 4C NiMH | 8650 |
Hugsby P32 Low | AA NiMH |
Great work, Don! You are a real sport to take everyone's input and re-do the tests. It is kind of neat to see how some of them sag after a couple of minutes. I agree some of the lumens readings seem high, but it's still a great comparison of one light vs. another and, man, you have a lot of lights!
If I were to do all of them, it'd take quite a long time. What would be fun would be a way of collating all the information in one place - probably need a lot of hyperlinking to make it useful or the result would be a monstrous mess. I think I have around 100 lights now - will try to get them all in one place and count them some time soon.
Do you have an ITP A3 to test?
Do you have an ITP A3 to test?
Afraid not. Unless Lightake comes up with a good offer...