Triple XP-L Convoy S2 MTN Edition BLF17DD Review

I charged the cells for each light and took em both out a few minutes ago. The Sinner Cypreus Triple XP-L is the base image, at 2960 lumens. Mouse over for the Eagle Eye X6 MT-G2 at 3485 lumens. Took the pics back to back with the same settings. Canon G1X ISO1600, f/5.6, 1/2 sec shutter in Manual with manual focus and 2 second timer.

The Cypreus Triple XP-L is pulling over 9A from a single Efest Purple 18350. The X6 MT-G2 is pulling 7.3A from a pair of the same cells.

What Bort? Lol you didn’t say anything but the quote…

What’s the run time on that cell?! Mah? I managed to kill 1/4 of my 2000mah just showing friends today… Maybe 1.5 minutes runtime. Sucker kills a battery… I cannot imagine an 18350!

Edit: 700mah! OMG dude you must only get 2 minutes runtime!

Excuse me? 'cumchair'? Are you 14?

Time is of the essence? Every host is slightly different. I’ve either cut spacers I bought from RMM to fit the hosts I had or made my own from random copper plumbing parts (or most recently, from copper bar stock). If you’re capable of building one of these on your own, you ought to be able to shave off some aluminum to make it fit properly. Using a hacksaw and a file is an awful lot less complicated than putting a light together.

I did, but i must have either typed it in the wrong spot or the forum software screwed up

And... you know, I gave you the only possible answer (for free, even - if that's not up to your obviously high standards I can send you my Paypal info), nobody but you has your parts sitting in front of them to measure.

And another thing... if you're not capable of measuring the new parts and the old parts and then subtracting the difference, how in hell were you planning to measure the spacer to find out where it needs to be cut? This is not a Snap-Tite plastic model kit, if you thought it was I'm afraid someone somewhere has led you horribly astray.

I’m still trying to figure out what sort of emergency this fellow is in that would require quickly constructing a flashlight.

Quick! Vampires! We need at least 2,000 lumens or we’re doomed!

I am incapable of doing this measurement:

Me too! I love your avatar, grantman321.

Regarding the fitment--these are budget hosts after all, and there is bound to be some slight tolerance differences. The length shouldn't change appreciably, but if it doesn't fit diameter-wise I would suggest this simple solution: get out some sandpaper and take off the high spots until it fits!

Sal415: did you buy the host and spacer from my store? I don't see where you bought an S6 host or a triple spacer.

Thanks — I’ve met several of the Robertson guys (before the show, back when only hunters had ever heard of them outside of Louisiana) - though I haven’t met Si. Got to hang out with Jase for about an hour at a small event I helped organize for active & retired military guys at Fort Bragg after the first season of the show. They’re awesome people.

Yikes!

I wondered what my little Cypreus Triple XP-L would do with an Efest Purple 35A, so I just took a tail amp reading with a rested cell for kicks and grins.

How about 12.56A? Might oughta stick it in the lightbox and see what that equates to…pretty crazy for sure!

Edit: Looks like ~3312 lumens at start from this rested cell. Like I really needed to know this, with Sinner’s 18650 Cypreus looking so svelte!
Edit II: A more fully charged Samsung 25R showed 3553 at start!

The interesting thing about the Cypreus hosts is that they can absorb that insane heat and release it through your flesh in a more controlled manner. My MTG2 in an S3 lets the heat out very fast and I can’t hold it for a full minute on turbo, but the Cypreus I can. If I dip back into turbo after the step down at one minute, it gets too hot. By too hot I mean it’s burning my hand. I wonder if I could hold onto an S6 with the copper slug for a minute on turbo?

Have any of you guys built a triple with XPG2s and the BLF DD17 on a copper spacer? If so how much light did you get out of it?

Well, obviously we’re getting too much guts in too small of a light. The Cypreus EDC 18350 is very small, I love it’s weight with the copper spacer in it and it’s very impressive. Having 7 levels to pick from it’s a useful light in at least 5 of em. :slight_smile: I can’t say that Turbo is really useful as it is really pretty short lived.

That said, I love my high powered lights! Can’t use em for real world situations a lot of the time, but still the modes make em at least carryable for normal situations…if you can leave turbo alone. I have a Delrin locker to carry a spare cell, need to get one in 18650 size for the X6 and Sinner Ti lights as they both take 2 of the 18350’s. At some point I start to get concerned about the bomb in my pocket though, does that make sense? Don’t want anyone thinking I actually am sane on occasion…

I did build a Convoy S2 with an XP-G2 and a Qlite running 2.25A. Shocker, I know. It still gets hot in Turbo level, at some 500 lumens. This is my 7 yr olds light, his favorite. :slight_smile:

I think we need a well set up pill — holding any chosen emitter and driver — built with mass and radiator fins on the outside — as the middle piece of any flashlight.

Make it threaded for attaching a battery container, and for attaching a head with optic or reflector.

The old 35mm SLR cameras often had very well made adapter rings, so you could as we now say “Lego” lenses from various sources onto camera bodies from various sources.

Often the adapters would have a bayonet mount on one side and screw threads on the other for making things fit together.

And they had to worry about precise distance between lens and film plane — which we don’t.

I know the ‘lottery’ — people using the machine tool that makes and matches threads, these days, aren’t trying for compatibility with anything. But there can’t be all that many useful choices, right?

I’m wishing for something that would end up looking a bit like the hand guard on a sword, I suppose — wider than the battery holder/handgrip, like a collar, effective at losing heat.

Just dreaming. But right now these modded triple high-powered lights are reaching the energy density where they’re overlapping with IEDs, and so long as lithium-ion cells overheating can be trouble, they will be. I wonder how fast a li-ion starts to break down when it’s repeatedly heated too hot to hold?

That’s why I would like to see an inert battery tube that wouldn’t absorb heat from the head/pill. Like carbon fiber for example. That would go a long way to keep the cells cooler and still be strong with the benefit of looking awesome. :slight_smile:

Ti bezel/tail cap, copper pill/fins, carbon fiber head and battery tube. :slight_smile: Oh, $25, max. :stuck_out_tongue: Oops, I think our wish list just exceeded our budget…

I don’t know but I’m a find out!

My efest 800s (18350s) are no longer holding a charge sufficient to take the light out of moon mode. Oops.

Sounds like you need some of the Purple Efests, they rock at high discharge. The regular red Efests are good up to around 6A, but beyond that I think they're getting pushed pretty hard.