Do you have an ITP A3 to test?
Afraid not. Unless Lightake comes up with a good offer...
I think the ITP A3 would be a good reference point. From all the tests I've seen, the NIMH high is always close to the manufacturer's rated 80 lumens.
The Fenix E01 seems to be a reliable 11 lumens
AFAIK the Preon 2 with new alkalines on high is 160 lumens - this is my only calibration point at present.
Thanks for your continued hard work Don! I made a copy of that list into word to keep as reference. I hope you don't mind. Thank again Don!
Thanks for your continued hard work Don! I made a copy of that list into word to keep as reference. I hope you don't mind. Thank again Don!
Feel free. Anyone can use any of my stuff for any non-commercial purpose
@Don - thanks a lot! That info at least doubles the usefulness of the chart for me :)
Where I have them, I'll try to link to runtime graphs which give the same sort of information but over a longer period.
A lumen/lux table with links to details (reviews?) = pure awesomeness.
Thanks again for what you do :D
That's the plan.
However, have you looked at the inline HTML editor? Try it on data from a table of any size. Better still, don't.
I'm probably going to have to build the table in an external application.
Then I can put in links to my heart's desire.
This is going to take some time.
I've been looking around and I have a lot of reviews I need to finish....
But I do plan to link to good reviews regardless of who did them. This will require a bit of thought and design to prevent the result being an unreadable mess.
Then maybe use Google Docs?
Example with one hyperlink just to prove it's working:
You also gain the nice ability to sort by name/lumen/whatever.
Then maybe use Google Docs?
Example with one hyperlink just to prove it's working:
You also gain the nice ability to sort by name/lumen/whatever.
Looks like a very worthwhile place to investigate. Ultimately, what I want to do is a website in a table. How far that is possible within the time I have available is another matter.
But if Google Docs prevents me having to fight with M$ Office bugs then it's OK with me. I detest Microsoft software - I have spent too much time fighting it to do what i want. In a Word (95/97/2003) document it is not possible to embed more than 31 live spreadsheets. It will let you embed more than that, but the document will never open again. Got bitten by that one for the woman I love's thesis. The time to find this out is certainly not two days before the deadline when the data was still trickling in.
I will investigate Google Docs. I can do all of this in Excel (spit!) but not as live HTML. Pity I completely loathe Google and prefer not to use their products at all. Frankly, I'd rather use Microsoft than Google. And that is from someone who has been using Macs since 1989 and various Unix variants since about the same time.
Just don't ask me to use Solaris! (Slowlaris!) Despite owning a couple of Sun boxes.
However, exporting a spreadsheet of numbers to them is unlikely to leak data I'd rather it didn't. And by the time I've finished cleaning the data....
In a Word (95/97/2003) document it is not possible to embed more than 31 live spreadsheets.
Unfortunately - I have a strange feeling that you will find more bugs in beta GDocs than in stationary Word/Excel...
Its main strength is mobility, not functionality. But still very useful in some cases.
You are right about Google - it's everywhere.
Photos? Picasa. Docs? GDocs. Search engine? Hmmmm... Bing? ;)
Still, there are some exceptions... I do not have Google in my phone (Windows Mobile > Android) and browser (Firefox > Chrome).
Anyway - it was just a hint :)
Hugsby P32 low NiMH and the showerhead on 3 8,000mAh D cells. I'll also run the showerhead on 6Ds but that will take a while. Runtime for the showerhead going now - I expect about 7 hours.
Light | Battery | Lightbox Immediate |
Fenix E01 | AAA | 37 |
Powerlight 1 | NiMH | 64 |
MDXL "3W" | NiMH | 69 |
TiKey | 3xLR44 | 81 |
Lumapower MRV SE Low | 18650 | 110 |
BLF DeLight 1 | NiMH | 135 |
Aurora SH0031 | Alk. AAA | 142 |
Ultra-budget C3 clone | 2xNiMH | 144 |
Mrlite Lipstick | AAA NiMH | 214 |
Hugsby P32 Low | AA NiMH | 214 |
Akoray K-106 | NiMH | 222 |
Golston "7W" | 2xRCR123 | 390 |
Trustfire XP-E F23 | AAA NiMH | 396 |
Smallsun ZY-C85 full zoom | 14500 | 456 |
Uniquefire AA-S1 | NiMH | 565 |
Uniquefire S10 | NiMH | 575 |
Trustfire F22 | NiMH | 586 |
Romisen RC-C6 | RCR123 | 618 |
Lumapower MRV SE Medium | 18650 | 630 |
Aurora SH-035 | NiMH | 644 |
Hugsby P32 High | NiMH | 650 |
Trustfire R5-A3 | NiMH | 650 |
Smallsun ZY-C85 | 14500 | 654 |
Akoray K-103 | 10440 | 697 |
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5 | NiMH | 718 |
Aurora SH-033 | RCR2 | 744 |
Solarforce L2R Solarforce low voltage R2 | 2xNiMH | 779 |
Aurora SH-035 | 14500 | 785 |
Trustfire XP-E F23 | 10440 | 850 |
MX Power ML-310 | 14500 | 857 |
Solarforce Skyline 1 | 2 CR123 | 880 |
Trustfire Z1 | RCR123 | 889 |
Ultrafire A30B | RCR123 | 909 |
Ultrafire WF-502B R2 single mode | 18650 | 940 |
a first batch Aurora SH-034 | RCR123 | 1016 |
Akoray K-106 | 14500 | 1055 |
Ultrafire WF-504B with the 5 mode R2 | 18650 | 1102 |
Uniquefire S10 | 14500 | 1112 |
Trustfire F22 | 14500 | 1254 |
Uniquefire AA-S1 | 14500 | 1255 |
Ultrafire RL-118 | RCR123 | 1260 |
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5 | 14500 | 1391 |
Showerhead | 3D NiMH | 1399 |
ROP Low | 6D NiCd | 1401 |
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin | 2 RCR123 | 1437 |
Lumahunter MRV SE | 18650 | 1462 |
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5 | 18650 | 1565 |
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin | 18650 | 1578 |
Trustfire R5-A3 | 14500 | 1630 |
Ultrafire WF-503B DX MC-E | 18650 | 1636 |
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E | 18650 | 1735 |
Solarforce L2M DX P7 | 18650 | 1956 |
Ultrafire WF-500 | 2 18650 | 2020 |
Ultrafire Wf-504B KD MC-E | 18650 | 2310 |
Aurora AK-P7 | 18650 | 2420 |
Ultrafire WF-501B M bin MC-E | 18650 | 3220 |
ROP High | 2x32600 | 3760 |
Varapower prototype | 4C NiMH | 8650 |
Light | Battery | Lightbox Immediate |
Fenix E01 | AAA | 37 |
Powerlight 1 | NiMH | 64 |
MDXL "3W" | NiMH | 69 |
TiKey | 3xLR44 | 81 |
Trustfire Z1 low | RCR123 | 87 |
Romisen RC-C6 Low Zoom | RCR123 | 95 |
Lumapower MRV SE Low | 18650 | 110 |
BLF DeLight 1 | NiMH | 135 |
Aurora SH0031 | Alk. AAA | 142 |
Ultra-budget C3 clone | 2xNiMH | 144 |
Romisen RC-C6 Low wide | RCR123 | 181 |
Hugsby P32 Low | AA NiMH | 214 |
Mrlite Lipstick | AAA NiMH | 214 |
Akoray K-106 | NiMH | 222 |
Romisen RC-C6 High Zoom | RCR123 | 333 |
Golston "7W" | 2xRCR123 | 390 |
Trustfire XP-E F23 | AAA NiMH | 396 |
Smallsun ZY-C85 full zoom | 14500 | 456 |
Uniquefire AA-S1 | NiMH | 565 |
Uniquefire S10 | NiMH | 575 |
Trustfire F22 | NiMH | 586 |
Lumapower MRV SE Medium | 18650 | 630 |
Aurora SH-035 | NiMH | 644 |
Hugsby P32 High | NiMH | 650 |
Trustfire R5-A3 | NiMH | 650 |
Smallsun ZY-C85 | 14500 | 654 |
Akoray K-103 | 10440 | 697 |
Romisen RC-C6 high wide | RCR123 | 697 |
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5 | NiMH | 718 |
Aurora SH-033 | RCR2 | 744 |
Solarforce L2R Solarforce low voltage R2 | 2xNiMH | 779 |
Aurora SH-035 | 14500 | 785 |
Trustfire XP-E F23 | 10440 | 850 |
MX Power ML-310 | 14500 | 857 |
Solarforce Skyline 1 | 2 CR123 | 880 |
Ultrafire A30B | RCR123 | 909 |
Trustfire Z1 High | RCR123 | 919 |
Ultrafire WF-502B R2 single mode | 18650 | 940 |
a first batch Aurora SH-034 | RCR123 | 1016 |
Akoray K-106 | 14500 | 1055 |
Ultrafire WF-504B with the 5 mode R2 | 18650 | 1102 |
Uniquefire S10 | 14500 | 1112 |
Trustfire F22 | 14500 | 1254 |
Uniquefire AA-S1 | 14500 | 1255 |
Ultrafire RL-118 | RCR123 | 1260 |
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5 | 14500 | 1391 |
Showerhead | 3D NiMH | 1399 |
ROP Low | 6D NiCd | 1401 |
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin | 2 RCR123 | 1437 |
Lumahunter MRV SE | 18650 | 1462 |
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5 | 18650 | 1565 |
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin | 18650 | 1578 |
Trustfire R5-A3 | 14500 | 1630 |
Ultrafire WF-503B DX MC-E | 18650 | 1636 |
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E | 18650 | 1735 |
Showerhead | 6D NiCd | 1937 |
Solarforce L2M DX P7 | 18650 | 1956 |
Ultrafire WF-500 | 2 18650 | 2020 |
Ultrafire Wf-504B KD MC-E | 18650 | 2310 |
Aurora AK-P7 | 18650 | 2420 |
Ultrafire WF-501B M bin MC-E | 18650 | 3220 |
ROP High | 2x32600 | 3760 |
Varapower prototype | 4C NiMH | 8650 |
The Trustfire Z1 gets hot on high. Nothing intolerable at two minutes but feels like it is going to get hotter. Will investigate in due course.
Hi Don
i take it the showerhead is the Fusion 36
if it is there is a noticable jump in output on the ceiling bounce test when it is fed 7.2v and over but it dose not like beeing over driven past 9v as recomended by the manufacturer
i ran one on 3 x 18500s = 12.20v all in the name of science you understand oh and i wanted to see how long it would last the regulater circit burnt out after 2 hours but it was giving my terralux M300 a run for its money
You got it, just couldn't remember the official name when I was typing it into the spreadsheet.
anduril:Then maybe use Google Docs?
Example with one hyperlink just to prove it's working:
You also gain the nice ability to sort by name/lumen/whatever.
Looks like a very worthwhile place to investigate. Ultimately, what I want to do is a website in a table. How far that is possible within the time I have available is another matter.
But if Google Docs prevents me having to fight with M$ Office bugs then it's OK with me. I detest Microsoft software - I have spent too much time fighting it to do what i want. In a Word (95/97/2003) document it is not possible to embed more than 31 live spreadsheets. It will let you embed more than that, but the document will never open again. Got bitten by that one for the woman I love's thesis. The time to find this out is certainly not two days before the deadline when the data was still trickling in.
I will investigate Google Docs. I can do all of this in Excel (spit!) but not as live HTML. Pity I completely loathe Google and prefer not to use their products at all. Frankly, I'd rather use Microsoft than Google. And that is from someone who has been using Macs since 1989 and various Unix variants since about the same time.
Just don't ask me to use Solaris! (Slowlaris!) Despite owning a couple of Sun boxes.
However, exporting a spreadsheet of numbers to them is unlikely to leak data I'd rather it didn't. And by the time I've finished cleaning the data....
I'm like you Don i detest office but have it just to open certain files.. I do like the Apple version of Excel (numbers) it's much nicer to use. I even prefer Claris works to Office lol
Numbers have changed for some lights as I've used a more rigorous battery regime. Each test is done with cells fresh from the charger.
Light | Battery | Lightbox Immediate |
Fenix E01 | AAA | 37 |
Powerlight 1 | NiMH | 64 |
MDXL "3W" | NiMH | 69 |
TiKey | 3xLR44 | 81 |
Trustfire Z1 low | RCR123 | 87 |
Romisen RC-C6 Low Zoom | RCR123 | 95 |
Lumapower MRV SE Low | 18650 | 110 |
BLF DeLight 1 | NiMH | 135 |
Aurora SH0031 | Alk. AAA | 142 |
Ultra-budget C3 clone | 2xNiMH | 144 |
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 Low | 18650 | 155 |
Romisen RC-C6 Low wide | RCR123 | 181 |
Hugsby P32 Low | AA NiMH | 214 |
Mrlite Lipstick | AAA NiMH | 214 |
Akoray K-106 | NiMH | 222 |
Aurora AK-P7 Low | 18650 | 266 |
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E Low | 18650 | 282 |
Romisen RC-C6 High Zoom | RCR123 | 333 |
Golston "7W" | 2xRCR123 | 390 |
Trustfire XP-E F23 | AAA NiMH | 396 |
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 Med | 18650 | 445 |
Smallsun ZY-C85 full zoom | 14500 | 456 |
Uniquefire AA-S1 | NiMH | 565 |
Uniquefire S10 | NiMH | 575 |
Trustfire F22 | NiMH | 586 |
Lumapower MRV SE Medium | 18650 | 630 |
Aurora SH-035 | NiMH | 644 |
Hugsby P32 High | NiMH | 650 |
Trustfire R5-A3 | NiMH | 650 |
Smallsun ZY-C85 | 14500 | 654 |
Akoray K-103 | 10440 | 697 |
Romisen RC-C6 high wide | RCR123 | 697 |
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5 | NiMH | 718 |
Aurora SH-033 | RCR2 | 744 |
Solarforce L2R Solarforce low voltage R2 | 2xNiMH | 779 |
Aurora SH-035 | 14500 | 785 |
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E Med | 18650 | 800 |
Trustfire XP-E F23 | 10440 | 850 |
MX Power ML-310 | 14500 | 857 |
Solarforce Skyline 1 | 2 CR123 | 880 |
Ultrafire A30B | RCR123 | 909 |
Trustfire Z1 High | RCR123 | 919 |
Ultrafire WF-502B R2 single mode | 18650 | 940 |
a first batch Aurora SH-034 | RCR123 | 1016 |
Akoray K-106 | 14500 | 1055 |
Uniquefire S10 | 14500 | 1112 |
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 High | 18650 | 1148 |
Trustfire F22 | 14500 | 1254 |
Uniquefire AA-S1 | 14500 | 1255 |
Ultrafire RL-118 | RCR123 | 1260 |
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5 | 14500 | 1391 |
Fusion 36 dropin | 3D NiMH | 1399 |
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin | 2 RCR123 | 1437 |
Lumahunter MRV SE High | 18650 | 1462 |
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5 | 18650 | 1565 |
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin | 18650 | 1578 |
Trustfire R5-A3 | 14500 | 1630 |
Ultrafire WF-503B DX MC-E | 18650 | 1636 |
ROP Low | 6D NiMH | 1670 |
Fusion 36 dropin | 6D NiCd | 1937 |
Solarforce L2M DX P7 | 18650 | 1956 |
Ultrafire WF-500 | 2 18650 | 2300 |
Ultrafire Wf-504B KD MC-E | 18650 | 2310 |
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E High | 18650 | 2400 |
Aurora AK-P7 High | 18650 | 2420 |
Ultrafire WF-501B M bin MC-E | 18650 | 3240 |
ROP High | 2x32600 | 3760 |
Varapower prototype | 4C NiMH | 8650 |
I make this little lot 51 different lights. Will add the other 50 or so in due course. But it is going to take a while.
Light | Battery | Lightbox Immediate |
Fenix E0 | Alk. AAA | 12 |
Trustfire XP-E F23 Low | AAA NiMH | 33 |
Maglite Solitaire w. Lambda LED | Alk AAA | 34 |
Aurora SH-035 Low | 14500 | 36 |
Fenix E01 | AAA | 37 |
Powerlight 1 | AA NiMH | 64 |
MDXL "3W" | AA NiMH | 69 |
TiKey | 3xLR44 | 81 |
Trustfire Z1 low | RCR123 | 87 |
Trustfire XP-E F23 Low | 10440 | 90 |
Romisen RC-C6 Low Zoom | RCR123 | 95 |
Lumapower MRV SE Low | 18650 | 110 |
BLF DeLight 1 | AA NiMH | 135 |
Aurora SH0031 | Alk. AAA | 142 |
Ultra-budget C3 clone | 2xNiMH | 144 |
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 Low | 18650 | 155 |
Romisen RC-C6 Low wide | RCR123 | 181 |
Akoray K-106 | AA NiMH | 189 |
Ultraqfire WF-602C | 10440 | 210 |
Hugsby P32 Low | AA NiMH | 214 |
Mrlite Lipstick | AAA NiMH | 214 |
MX Power ML-310 Low | 14500 | 216 |
Tank007 TK-703 | Alk. AAA | 237 |
Aurora AK-P7 Low | 18650 | 266 |
Aurora SH-035 Med | 14500 | 269 |
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E Low | 18650 | 282 |
Tank007 E07 (2) | AA NiMH | 310 |
Romisen RC-C6 High Zoom | RCR123 | 333 |
Trustfire XP-E F23 High | AAA NiMH | 383 |
Tank007 E07 (1) | AA NiMH | 423 |
Golston "7W" | 2xRCR123 | 425 |
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 Med | 18650 | 445 |
Uniquefire AA-S1 | AA NiMH | 565 |
Uniquefire S10 | AA NiMH | 575 |
Smallsun ZY-C85 full zoom | 14500 | 581 |
Trustfire F22 | AA NiMH | 586 |
Lumapower MRV SE Medium | 18650 | 630 |
Aurora SH-035 | AA NiMH | 644 |
Hugsby P32 High | AA NiMH | 650 |
Trustfire R5-A3 | AA NiMH | 650 |
Akoray K-103 | 10440 | 697 |
Romisen RC-C6 high wide | RCR123 | 697 |
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5 | AA NiMH | 718 |
Aurora SH-033 | RCR2 | 744 |
Solarforce L2R Solarforce low voltage R2 | 2xNiMH | 779 |
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E Med | 18650 | 800 |
Smallsun ZY-C85 | 14500 | 867 |
Solarforce Skyline 1 | 2 CR123 | 880 |
Aurora SH-035 High | 14500 | 898 |
MX Power ML-310 High | 14500 | 900 |
Ultrafire A30B | RCR123 | 909 |
Trustfire Z1 High | RCR123 | 919 |
Ultrafire WF-502B R2 single mode | 18650 | 940 |
Trustfire XP-E F23 High | 10440 | 957 |
a first batch Aurora SH-034 | RCR123 | 1016 |
Akoray K-106 | 14500 | 1055 |
Uniquefire S10 | 14500 | 1112 |
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 High | 18650 | 1148 |
Trustfire F22 | 14500 | 1254 |
Uniquefire AA-S1 | 14500 | 1255 |
Ultrafire RL-118 | RCR123 | 1260 |
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5 | 14500 | 1391 |
Fusion 36 dropin | 3D NiMH | 1399 |
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin | 2 RCR123 | 1437 |
Lumahunter MRV SE High | 18650 | 1462 |
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5 | 18650 | 1565 |
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin | 18650 | 1578 |
Trustfire R5-A3 | 14500 | 1630 |
Ultrafire WF-503B DX MC-E | 18650 | 1636 |
ROP Low | 6D NiMH | 1670 |
Fusion 36 dropin | 6D NiCd | 1937 |
Solarforce L2M DX P7 | 18650 | 1956 |
Ultrafire WF-500 | 2 18650 | 2300 |
Ultrafire Wf-504B KD MC-E | 18650 | 2310 |
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E High | 18650 | 2400 |
Aurora AK-P7 High | 18650 | 2420 |
Ultrafire WF-501B M bin MC-E | 18650 | 3240 |
ROP High | 2x32600 | 3760 |
Varapower prototype | 4C NiMH | 8650 |