Don
(Don)
August 21, 2010, 8:37pm
42
That's the plan.
However, have you looked at the inline HTML editor? Try it on data from a table of any size. Better still, don't.
I'm probably going to have to build the table in an external application.
Then I can put in links to my heart's desire.
This is going to take some time.
I've been looking around and I have a lot of reviews I need to finish....
But I do plan to link to good reviews regardless of who did them. This will require a bit of thought and design to prevent the result being an unreadable mess.
anduril
(anduril)
August 21, 2010, 9:12pm
43
Then maybe use Google Docs?
Example with one hyperlink just to prove it's working:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AplkeaML5HxCdE9KejFCVnM5enA5M1FSdzh0cW1Damc&hl=en&authkey=COqJn5kL
You also gain the nice ability to sort by name/lumen/whatever.
Don
(Don)
August 21, 2010, 9:36pm
44
Looks like a very worthwhile place to investigate. Ultimately, what I want to do is a website in a table. How far that is possible within the time I have available is another matter.
But if Google Docs prevents me having to fight with M$ Office bugs then it's OK with me. I detest Microsoft software - I have spent too much time fighting it to do what i want. In a Word (95/97/2003) document it is not possible to embed more than 31 live spreadsheets. It will let you embed more than that, but the document will never open again. Got bitten by that one for the woman I love's thesis. The time to find this out is certainly not two days before the deadline when the data was still trickling in.
I will investigate Google Docs. I can do all of this in Excel (spit!) but not as live HTML. Pity I completely loathe Google and prefer not to use their products at all. Frankly, I'd rather use Microsoft than Google. And that is from someone who has been using Macs since 1989 and various Unix variants since about the same time.
Just don't ask me to use Solaris! (Slowlaris!) Despite owning a couple of Sun boxes.
However, exporting a spreadsheet of numbers to them is unlikely to leak data I'd rather it didn't. And by the time I've finished cleaning the data....
anduril
(anduril)
August 21, 2010, 9:51pm
45
Unfortunately - I have a strange feeling that you will find more bugs in beta GDocs than in stationary Word/Excel...
Its main strength is mobility, not functionality. But still very useful in some cases.
You are right about Google - it's everywhere.
Photos? Picasa. Docs? GDocs. Search engine? Hmmmm... Bing? ;)
Still, there are some exceptions... I do not have Google in my phone (Windows Mobile > Android) and browser (Firefox > Chrome).
Anyway - it was just a hint :)
Don
(Don)
August 22, 2010, 1:44pm
46
Hugsby P32 low NiMH and the showerhead on 3 8,000mAh D cells. I'll also run the showerhead on 6Ds but that will take a while. Runtime for the showerhead going now - I expect about 7 hours.
Light
Battery
Lightbox Immediate
Fenix E01
AAA
37
Powerlight 1
NiMH
64
MDXL "3W"
NiMH
69
TiKey
3xLR44
81
Lumapower MRV SE Low
18650
110
BLF DeLight 1
NiMH
135
Aurora SH0031
Alk. AAA
142
Ultra-budget C3 clone
2xNiMH
144
Mrlite Lipstick
AAA NiMH
214
Hugsby P32 Low
AA NiMH
214
Akoray K-106
NiMH
222
Golston "7W"
2xRCR123
390
Trustfire XP-E F23
AAA NiMH
396
Smallsun ZY-C85 full zoom
14500
456
Uniquefire AA-S1
NiMH
565
Uniquefire S10
NiMH
575
Trustfire F22
NiMH
586
Romisen RC-C6
RCR123
618
Lumapower MRV SE Medium
18650
630
Aurora SH-035
NiMH
644
Hugsby P32 High
NiMH
650
Trustfire R5-A3
NiMH
650
Smallsun ZY-C85
14500
654
Akoray K-103
10440
697
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5
NiMH
718
Aurora SH-033
RCR2
744
Solarforce L2R Solarforce low voltage R2
2xNiMH
779
Aurora SH-035
14500
785
Trustfire XP-E F23
10440
850
MX Power ML-310
14500
857
Solarforce Skyline 1
2 CR123
880
Trustfire Z1
RCR123
889
Ultrafire A30B
RCR123
909
Ultrafire WF-502B R2 single mode
18650
940
a first batch Aurora SH-034
RCR123
1016
Akoray K-106
14500
1055
Ultrafire WF-504B with the 5 mode R2
18650
1102
Uniquefire S10
14500
1112
Trustfire F22
14500
1254
Uniquefire AA-S1
14500
1255
Ultrafire RL-118
RCR123
1260
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5
14500
1391
Showerhead
3D NiMH
1399
ROP Low
6D NiCd
1401
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin
2 RCR123
1437
Lumahunter MRV SE
18650
1462
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5
18650
1565
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin
18650
1578
Trustfire R5-A3
14500
1630
Ultrafire WF-503B DX MC-E
18650
1636
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E
18650
1735
Solarforce L2M DX P7
18650
1956
Ultrafire WF-500
2 18650
2020
Ultrafire Wf-504B KD MC-E
18650
2310
Aurora AK-P7
18650
2420
Ultrafire WF-501B M bin MC-E
18650
3220
ROP High
2x32600
3760
Varapower prototype
4C NiMH
8650
Don
(Don)
August 22, 2010, 10:32pm
47
Light
Battery
Lightbox Immediate
Fenix E01
AAA
37
Powerlight 1
NiMH
64
MDXL "3W"
NiMH
69
TiKey
3xLR44
81
Trustfire Z1 low
RCR123
87
Romisen RC-C6 Low Zoom
RCR123
95
Lumapower MRV SE Low
18650
110
BLF DeLight 1
NiMH
135
Aurora SH0031
Alk. AAA
142
Ultra-budget C3 clone
2xNiMH
144
Romisen RC-C6 Low wide
RCR123
181
Hugsby P32 Low
AA NiMH
214
Mrlite Lipstick
AAA NiMH
214
Akoray K-106
NiMH
222
Romisen RC-C6 High Zoom
RCR123
333
Golston "7W"
2xRCR123
390
Trustfire XP-E F23
AAA NiMH
396
Smallsun ZY-C85 full zoom
14500
456
Uniquefire AA-S1
NiMH
565
Uniquefire S10
NiMH
575
Trustfire F22
NiMH
586
Lumapower MRV SE Medium
18650
630
Aurora SH-035
NiMH
644
Hugsby P32 High
NiMH
650
Trustfire R5-A3
NiMH
650
Smallsun ZY-C85
14500
654
Akoray K-103
10440
697
Romisen RC-C6 high wide
RCR123
697
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5
NiMH
718
Aurora SH-033
RCR2
744
Solarforce L2R Solarforce low voltage R2
2xNiMH
779
Aurora SH-035
14500
785
Trustfire XP-E F23
10440
850
MX Power ML-310
14500
857
Solarforce Skyline 1
2 CR123
880
Ultrafire A30B
RCR123
909
Trustfire Z1 High
RCR123
919
Ultrafire WF-502B R2 single mode
18650
940
a first batch Aurora SH-034
RCR123
1016
Akoray K-106
14500
1055
Ultrafire WF-504B with the 5 mode R2
18650
1102
Uniquefire S10
14500
1112
Trustfire F22
14500
1254
Uniquefire AA-S1
14500
1255
Ultrafire RL-118
RCR123
1260
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5
14500
1391
Showerhead
3D NiMH
1399
ROP Low
6D NiCd
1401
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin
2 RCR123
1437
Lumahunter MRV SE
18650
1462
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5
18650
1565
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin
18650
1578
Trustfire R5-A3
14500
1630
Ultrafire WF-503B DX MC-E
18650
1636
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E
18650
1735
Showerhead
6D NiCd
1937
Solarforce L2M DX P7
18650
1956
Ultrafire WF-500
2 18650
2020
Ultrafire Wf-504B KD MC-E
18650
2310
Aurora AK-P7
18650
2420
Ultrafire WF-501B M bin MC-E
18650
3220
ROP High
2x32600
3760
Varapower prototype
4C NiMH
8650
The Trustfire Z1 gets hot on high. Nothing intolerable at two minutes but feels like it is going to get hotter. Will investigate in due course.
Hi Don
i take it the showerhead is the Fusion 36
if it is there is a noticable jump in output on the ceiling bounce test when it is fed 7.2v and over but it dose not like beeing over driven past 9v as recomended by the manufacturer
i ran one on 3 x 18500s = 12.20v all in the name of science you understand oh and i wanted to see how long it would last the regulater circit burnt out after 2 hours but it was giving my terralux M300 a run for its money
Don
(Don)
August 23, 2010, 1:19pm
49
You got it, just couldn't remember the official name when I was typing it into the spreadsheet.
charlestt
(charlestt)
August 23, 2010, 6:45pm
50
Don:
Looks like a very worthwhile place to investigate. Ultimately, what I want to do is a website in a table. How far that is possible within the time I have available is another matter.
But if Google Docs prevents me having to fight with M$ Office bugs then it's OK with me. I detest Microsoft software - I have spent too much time fighting it to do what i want. In a Word (95/97/2003) document it is not possible to embed more than 31 live spreadsheets. It will let you embed more than that, but the document will never open again. Got bitten by that one for the woman I love's thesis. The time to find this out is certainly not two days before the deadline when the data was still trickling in.
I will investigate Google Docs. I can do all of this in Excel (spit!) but not as live HTML. Pity I completely loathe Google and prefer not to use their products at all. Frankly, I'd rather use Microsoft than Google. And that is from someone who has been using Macs since 1989 and various Unix variants since about the same time.
Just don't ask me to use Solaris! (Slowlaris!) Despite owning a couple of Sun boxes.
However, exporting a spreadsheet of numbers to them is unlikely to leak data I'd rather it didn't. And by the time I've finished cleaning the data....
I'm like you Don i detest office but have it just to open certain files.. I do like the Apple version of Excel (numbers) it's much nicer to use. I even prefer Claris works to Office lol
Don
(Don)
August 23, 2010, 8:22pm
51
Numbers have changed for some lights as I've used a more rigorous battery regime. Each test is done with cells fresh from the charger.
Light
Battery
Lightbox Immediate
Fenix E01
AAA
37
Powerlight 1
NiMH
64
MDXL "3W"
NiMH
69
TiKey
3xLR44
81
Trustfire Z1 low
RCR123
87
Romisen RC-C6 Low Zoom
RCR123
95
Lumapower MRV SE Low
18650
110
BLF DeLight 1
NiMH
135
Aurora SH0031
Alk. AAA
142
Ultra-budget C3 clone
2xNiMH
144
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 Low
18650
155
Romisen RC-C6 Low wide
RCR123
181
Hugsby P32 Low
AA NiMH
214
Mrlite Lipstick
AAA NiMH
214
Akoray K-106
NiMH
222
Aurora AK-P7 Low
18650
266
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E Low
18650
282
Romisen RC-C6 High Zoom
RCR123
333
Golston "7W"
2xRCR123
390
Trustfire XP-E F23
AAA NiMH
396
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 Med
18650
445
Smallsun ZY-C85 full zoom
14500
456
Uniquefire AA-S1
NiMH
565
Uniquefire S10
NiMH
575
Trustfire F22
NiMH
586
Lumapower MRV SE Medium
18650
630
Aurora SH-035
NiMH
644
Hugsby P32 High
NiMH
650
Trustfire R5-A3
NiMH
650
Smallsun ZY-C85
14500
654
Akoray K-103
10440
697
Romisen RC-C6 high wide
RCR123
697
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5
NiMH
718
Aurora SH-033
RCR2
744
Solarforce L2R Solarforce low voltage R2
2xNiMH
779
Aurora SH-035
14500
785
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E Med
18650
800
Trustfire XP-E F23
10440
850
MX Power ML-310
14500
857
Solarforce Skyline 1
2 CR123
880
Ultrafire A30B
RCR123
909
Trustfire Z1 High
RCR123
919
Ultrafire WF-502B R2 single mode
18650
940
a first batch Aurora SH-034
RCR123
1016
Akoray K-106
14500
1055
Uniquefire S10
14500
1112
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 High
18650
1148
Trustfire F22
14500
1254
Uniquefire AA-S1
14500
1255
Ultrafire RL-118
RCR123
1260
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5
14500
1391
Fusion 36 dropin
3D NiMH
1399
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin
2 RCR123
1437
Lumahunter MRV SE High
18650
1462
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5
18650
1565
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin
18650
1578
Trustfire R5-A3
14500
1630
Ultrafire WF-503B DX MC-E
18650
1636
ROP Low
6D NiMH
1670
Fusion 36 dropin
6D NiCd
1937
Solarforce L2M DX P7
18650
1956
Ultrafire WF-500
2 18650
2300
Ultrafire Wf-504B KD MC-E
18650
2310
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E High
18650
2400
Aurora AK-P7 High
18650
2420
Ultrafire WF-501B M bin MC-E
18650
3240
ROP High
2x32600
3760
Varapower prototype
4C NiMH
8650
Don
(Don)
August 24, 2010, 9:23pm
52
I make this little lot 51 different lights. Will add the other 50 or so in due course. But it is going to take a while.
Light
Battery
Lightbox Immediate
Fenix E0
Alk. AAA
12
Trustfire XP-E F23 Low
AAA NiMH
33
Maglite Solitaire w. Lambda LED
Alk AAA
34
Aurora SH-035 Low
14500
36
Fenix E01
AAA
37
Powerlight 1
AA NiMH
64
MDXL "3W"
AA NiMH
69
TiKey
3xLR44
81
Trustfire Z1 low
RCR123
87
Trustfire XP-E F23 Low
10440
90
Romisen RC-C6 Low Zoom
RCR123
95
Lumapower MRV SE Low
18650
110
BLF DeLight 1
AA NiMH
135
Aurora SH0031
Alk. AAA
142
Ultra-budget C3 clone
2xNiMH
144
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 Low
18650
155
Romisen RC-C6 Low wide
RCR123
181
Akoray K-106
AA NiMH
189
Ultraqfire WF-602C
10440
210
Hugsby P32 Low
AA NiMH
214
Mrlite Lipstick
AAA NiMH
214
MX Power ML-310 Low
14500
216
Tank007 TK-703
Alk. AAA
237
Aurora AK-P7 Low
18650
266
Aurora SH-035 Med
14500
269
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E Low
18650
282
Tank007 E07 (2)
AA NiMH
310
Romisen RC-C6 High Zoom
RCR123
333
Trustfire XP-E F23 High
AAA NiMH
383
Tank007 E07 (1)
AA NiMH
423
Golston "7W"
2xRCR123
425
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 Med
18650
445
Uniquefire AA-S1
AA NiMH
565
Uniquefire S10
AA NiMH
575
Smallsun ZY-C85 full zoom
14500
581
Trustfire F22
AA NiMH
586
Lumapower MRV SE Medium
18650
630
Aurora SH-035
AA NiMH
644
Hugsby P32 High
AA NiMH
650
Trustfire R5-A3
AA NiMH
650
Akoray K-103
10440
697
Romisen RC-C6 high wide
RCR123
697
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5
AA NiMH
718
Aurora SH-033
RCR2
744
Solarforce L2R Solarforce low voltage R2
2xNiMH
779
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E Med
18650
800
Smallsun ZY-C85
14500
867
Solarforce Skyline 1
2 CR123
880
Aurora SH-035 High
14500
898
MX Power ML-310 High
14500
900
Ultrafire A30B
RCR123
909
Trustfire Z1 High
RCR123
919
Ultrafire WF-502B R2 single mode
18650
940
Trustfire XP-E F23 High
10440
957
a first batch Aurora SH-034
RCR123
1016
Akoray K-106
14500
1055
Uniquefire S10
14500
1112
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 High
18650
1148
Trustfire F22
14500
1254
Uniquefire AA-S1
14500
1255
Ultrafire RL-118
RCR123
1260
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5
14500
1391
Fusion 36 dropin
3D NiMH
1399
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin
2 RCR123
1437
Lumahunter MRV SE High
18650
1462
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5
18650
1565
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin
18650
1578
Trustfire R5-A3
14500
1630
Ultrafire WF-503B DX MC-E
18650
1636
ROP Low
6D NiMH
1670
Fusion 36 dropin
6D NiCd
1937
Solarforce L2M DX P7
18650
1956
Ultrafire WF-500
2 18650
2300
Ultrafire Wf-504B KD MC-E
18650
2310
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E High
18650
2400
Aurora AK-P7 High
18650
2420
Ultrafire WF-501B M bin MC-E
18650
3240
ROP High
2x32600
3760
Varapower prototype
4C NiMH
8650
Don
(Don)
August 25, 2010, 8:59pm
53
This invalidates all of my lumen estimates. Even if we say the Preon 2 on alkalines is 160 lumens at switch on the numbers change quite a bit. The first table is the numbers using the previous assumptions.
>
Light
Battery
Lightbox Immediate
Fenix E0
Alk. AAA
12
Trustfire XP-E F23 Low
AAA NiMH
33
Maglite Solitaire w. Lambda LED
Alk AAA
34
Aurora SH-035 Low
14500
36
Fenix E01
AAA
37
Powerlight 1
AA NiMH
64
MDXL "3W"
AA NiMH
69
TiKey
3xLR44
81
Trustfire Z1 low
RCR123
87
Trustfire XP-E F23 Low
10440
90
Romisen RC-C6 Low Zoom
RCR123
95
Lumapower MRV SE Low
18650
110
BLF DeLight 1
AA NiMH
135
Aurora SH0031
Alk. AAA
142
Ultra-budget C3 clone
2xNiMH
144
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 Low
18650
155
Romisen RC-C6 Low wide
RCR123
181
Akoray K-106
AA NiMH
189
Ultraqfire WF-602C
10440
210
Hugsby P32 Low
AA NiMH
214
Mrlite Lipstick
AAA NiMH
214
MX Power ML-310 Low
14500
216
Tank007 TK-703
Alk. AAA
237
Aurora AK-P7 Low
18650
266
Aurora SH-035 Med
14500
269
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E Low
18650
282
Tank007 E07 (2)
AA NiMH
310
Romisen RC-C6 High Zoom
RCR123
333
Trustfire XP-E F23 High
AAA NiMH
383
Tank007 E07 (1)
AA NiMH
423
Golston "7W"
2xRCR123
425
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 Med
18650
445
Uniquefire AA-S1
AA NiMH
565
Uniquefire S10
AA NiMH
575
Smallsun ZY-C85 full zoom
14500
581
Trustfire F22
AA NiMH
586
Lumapower MRV SE Medium
18650
630
Aurora SH-035
AA NiMH
644
Hugsby P32 High
AA NiMH
650
Trustfire R5-A3
AA NiMH
650
Akoray K-103
10440
697
Romisen RC-C6 high wide
RCR123
697
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5
AA NiMH
718
Aurora SH-033
RCR2
744
Solarforce L2R Solarforce low voltage R2
2xNiMH
779
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E Med
18650
800
Smallsun ZY-C85
14500
867
Solarforce Skyline 1
2 CR123
880
Aurora SH-035 High
14500
898
MX Power ML-310 High
14500
900
Ultrafire A30B
RCR123
909
Trustfire Z1 High
RCR123
919
Ultrafire WF-502B R2 single mode
18650
940
Trustfire XP-E F23 High
10440
957
a first batch Aurora SH-034
RCR123
1016
Akoray K-106
14500
1055
Uniquefire S10
14500
1112
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 High
18650
1148
Trustfire F22
14500
1254
Uniquefire AA-S1
14500
1255
Ultrafire RL-118
RCR123
1260
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5
14500
1391
Fusion 36 dropin
3D NiMH
1399
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin
2 RCR123
1437
Lumahunter MRV SE High
18650
1462
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5
18650
1565
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin
18650
1578
Trustfire R5-A3
14500
1630
Ultrafire WF-503B DX MC-E
18650
1636
ROP Low
6D NiMH
1670
Fusion 36 dropin
6D NiCd
1937
Solarforce L2M DX P7
18650
1956
Ultrafire WF-500
2 18650
2300
Ultrafire Wf-504B KD MC-E
18650
2310
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E High
18650
2400
Aurora AK-P7 High
18650
2420
Ultrafire WF-501B M bin MC-E
18650
3240
ROP High
2x32600
3760
Varapower prototype
4C NiMH
8650
4Sevens Preon 2 High
2AAA NiMH
1074
4Sevens Preon 2 High
2Alk. AAA
892
4Sevens Preon 2 Med
2AAA NiMH
187
4Sevens Preon 2 Med
2Alk. AAA
195
4Sevens Preon 2 Low
2AAA NiMH
18
4Sevens Preon 2 Low
2Alk. AAA
18
Since my dividing factor is now 892 (at best) instead of 720 I'll do a new post with new numbers. The numbers in this table feel too high anyway so a downscaling will likely get it into more sensible territory.
Don
(Don)
August 25, 2010, 9:18pm
54
There are a couple of notes at the bottom:
Light
Battery
Lightbox Immediate
Fenix E0 *
Alk. AAA
12
4Sevens Preon 2 Low
2AAA NiMH
18
4Sevens Preon 2 Low
2Alk. AAA
18
Trustfire XP-E F23 Low **
AAA NiMH
33
Maglite Solitaire w. Lambda LED
Alk AAA
34
Aurora SH-035 Low
14500
36
Fenix E01 ***
AAA
37
Powerlight 1
AA NiMH
64
MDXL "3W"
AA NiMH
69
TiKey
3xLR44
81
Trustfire Z1 low
RCR123
87
Trustfire XP-E F23 Low
10440
90
Romisen RC-C6 Low Zoom
RCR123
95
Lumapower MRV SE Low
18650
110
BLF DeLight 1
AA NiMH
135
Aurora SH0031 ****
Alk. AAA
142
Ultra-budget C3 clone
2xNiMH
144
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 Low
18650
155
Romisen RC-C6 Low wide
RCR123
181
4Sevens Preon 2 Med
2AAA NiMH
187
Akoray K-106
AA NiMH
189
4Sevens Preon 2 Med
2Alk. AAA
195
Ultraqfire WF-602C
10440
210
Hugsby P32 Low
AA NiMH
214
Mrlite Lipstick *****
AAA NiMH
214
MX Power ML-310 Low
14500
216
Tank007 TK-703
Alk. AAA
237
Aurora AK-P7 Low
18650
266
Aurora SH-035 Med
14500
269
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E Low
18650
282
Tank007 E07 (2)
AA NiMH
310
Romisen RC-C6 High Zoom
RCR123
333
Trustfire XP-E F23 High
AAA NiMH
383
Tank007 E07 (1)
AA NiMH
423
Golston "7W"
2xRCR123
425
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 Med
18650
445
Uniquefire AA-S1
AA NiMH
565
Uniquefire S10
AA NiMH
575
Smallsun ZY-C85 full zoom
14500
581
Trustfire F22
AA NiMH
586
Lumapower MRV SE Medium
18650
630
Aurora SH-035
AA NiMH
644
Hugsby P32 High
AA NiMH
650
Trustfire R5-A3
AA NiMH
650
Akoray K-103
10440
697
Romisen RC-C6 high wide
RCR123
697
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5
AA NiMH
718
Aurora SH-033
RCR2
744
Solarforce L2R Solarforce low voltage R2
2xNiMH
779
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E Med
18650
800
Smallsun ZY-C85
14500
867
Solarforce Skyline 1
2 CR123
880
4Sevens Preon 2 High
2Alk. AAA
892
Aurora SH-035 High
14500
898
MX Power ML-310 High
14500
900
Ultrafire A30B
RCR123
909
Trustfire Z1 High
RCR123
919
Ultrafire WF-502B R2 single mode
18650
940
Trustfire XP-E F23 High 6*
10440
957
First batch Aurora SH-034
RCR123
1016
Akoray K-106
14500
1055
4Sevens Preon 2 High
2AAA NiMH
1074
Uniquefire S10
14500
1112
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 High
18650
1148
Trustfire F22
14500
1254
Uniquefire AA-S1
14500
1255
Ultrafire RL-118
RCR123
1260
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5
14500
1391
Fusion 36 dropin
3D NiMH
1399
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin
2 RCR123
1437
Lumahunter MRV SE High
18650
1462
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5
18650
1565
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin
18650
1578
Trustfire R5-A3 7*
14500
1630
Ultrafire WF-503B DX MC-E
18650
1636
ROP Low
6D NiMH
1670
Fusion 36 dropin 8*
6D NiCd
1937
Solarforce L2M DX P7
18650
1956
Ultrafire WF-500 9*
2 18650
2300
Ultrafire Wf-504B KD MC-E
18650
2310
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E High
18650
2400
Aurora AK-P7 High
18650
2420
Ultrafire WF-501B M bin MC-E
18650
3240
ROP High
2x32600
3760
Varapower prototype
4C NiMH
8650
* - An ancient alkaline. Will restest with a brand new one. The cell in there is at least 3 years old.
** - battery on light meter gave out. Will redo the test.
*** - Pulled off keyring to test. Needs to be retested with a fresh cell. I think it is the same one the light came with.
**** - Pulled out of office desk drawer. There's a theme here - I think I need to buy a big box of AAA alkalines.
***** - At some point I will go through the multiplicity of modes this one has. Don't hold your breath.
6* - I'd not trust the two minute reading too much - I was using protected 10440s and the protection kept kicking in - need to test this with a good unprotected 10440.
7* - This still feels too high to me - I guess around 280
8* - Need to do this with the 8,000mAh NiMH Ds which seem to have lower internal resistance.
9* - This one is usually said to be around 350-370 lumens but that may just be that the cells in it were at 4.2V
There are several lights in here to be retested. Must get around to building balancing harnesses so I can charge more lithium cells at a time. That way I can pull cells from the charger and guarantee uniform performance unless I have a dud cell. See my comments on the R5-A3 for the startling effects a dud cell can cause.
Don
(Don)
August 28, 2010, 4:29pm
55
Will promote this table to the first post once I've filled it out a bit.
Light
Battery
Lightbox Immediate
Lightbox 30 seconds
Fenix E0 *
Alk. AAA
12
12
4Sevens Preon 2 Low
2AAA NiMH
18
18
4Sevens Preon 2 Low
2Alk. AAA
18
18
Fenix P3D Low
2xCR123
30
30
Trustfire XP-E F23 Low **
AAA NiMH
33
34
Maglite Solitaire w. Lambda LED
Alk AAA
34
33
Aurora SH-035 Low
14500
36
36
Fenix E01
AAA
37
33
Ultrafire A1 Low
RCR123
45
45
Powerlight 1
AA NiMH
64
64
MDXL "3W"
AA NiMH
69
72
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5 Low
18650
73
73
TiKey
3xLR44
81
71
Trustfire Z1 low
RCR123
87
90
Trustfire XP-E F23 Low
10440
90
88
Romisen RC-C6 Low Zoom
RCR123
95
97
Lumapower MRV SE Low
18650
110
110
BLF DeLight 1
AA NiMH
135
144
Aurora SH0031
Alk. AAA
142
99
Ultra-budget C3 clone
2xNiMH
144
111
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5 Med
18650
144
143
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 Low
18650
155
155
Romisen RC-C6 Low wide
RCR123
181
189
4Sevens Preon 2 Med
2AAA NiMH
187
182
Akoray K-106
AA NiMH
189
198
4Sevens Preon 2 Med
2Alk. AAA
195
188
Fenix P3D Medium
2xCR123
197
198
Ultraqfire WF-602C
10440
210
190
Hugsby P32 Low
AA NiMH
214
199
Mrlite Lipstick
AAA NiMH
214
201
MX Power ML-310 Low
14500
216
211
Tank007 TK-703
Alk. AAA
237
181
Aurora AK-P7 Low
18650
266
269
Aurora SH-035 Med
14500
269
266
Ultrafire A1 Medium
RCR123
274
272
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E Low
18650
282
286
Tank007 E07 (2)
AA NiMH
310
385
Romisen RC-C6 High Zoom
RCR123
333
335
Trustfire XP-E F23 High
AAA NiMH
383
334
Tank007 E07 (1)
AA NiMH
423
372
Golston "7W"
2xRCR123
425
327
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 Med
18650
445
442
Fenix P3D High
2xCR123
469
462
Uniquefire AA-S1
AA NiMH
565
557
Uniquefire S10
AA NiMH
575
Smallsun ZY-C85 full zoom
14500
581
542
Trustfire F22
AA NiMH
586
Lumapower MRV SE Medium
18650
630
634
Aurora SH-035
AA NiMH
644
Hugsby P32 High
AA NiMH
650
597
Trustfire R5-A3
AA NiMH
650
Akoray K-103
10440
697
681
Romisen RC-C6 high wide
RCR123
697
732
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5
AA NiMH
718
Aurora SH-033
RCR2
744
Solarforce L2R Solarforce low voltage R2
2xNiMH
779
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E Med
18650
800
816
Ultrafire A1 High
RCR123
813
771
Smallsun ZY-C85
14500
867
766
Solarforce Skyline 1
2 CR123
880
4Sevens Preon 2 High
2Alk. AAA
892
823
Fenix P3D Turbo
2xCR123
894
858
Aurora SH-035 High
14500
898
856
MX Power ML-310 High
14500
900
798
Romisen RC-F4
2xRCR123
901
731
Ultrafire A30B
RCR123
909
Trustfire Z1 High
RCR123
919
875
Ultrafire WF-502B R2 single mode
18650
940
Trustfire XP-E F23 High
10440
957
785
a first batch Aurora SH-034
RCR123
1016
Akoray K-106
14500
1055
1019
4Sevens Preon 2 High
2AAA NiMH
1074
944
Uniquefire S10
14500
1112
1017
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 High
18650
1148
1092
Trustfire F22
14500
1254
1128
Uniquefire AA-S1
14500
1255
1183
Ultrafire RL-118
RCR123
1260
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5
14500
1391
1259
Fusion 36 dropin
3D NiMH
1399
1382
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin
2 RCR123
1437
Lumahunter MRV SE High
18650
1462
1380
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5 High
2 IMR16340
1477
1320
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin
18650
1578
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5 High
18650
1599
1409
Trustfire R5-A3
14500
1630
1482
Ultrafire WF-503B DX MC-E
18650
1636
ROP Low
6D NiMH
1670
1568
Fusion 36 dropin
6D NiCd
1937
1868
Solarforce L2M DX P7
18650
1956
Ultrafire WF-500
2 18650
2300
2040
Ultrafire Wf-504B KD MC-E
18650
2310
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E High
18650
2400
2280
Aurora AK-P7 High
18650
2420
2140
Ultrafire WF-501B M bin MC-E
18650
3240
2990
ROP High
2x32600
3760
3600
Varapower prototype
4C NiMH
8650
8330
Don
(Don)
September 2, 2010, 8:45pm
56
This is now up to 59 different lights, and quite a few more to come. I'll focus on filling out the gaps I think before adding many more lights. This table also needs current draw and throw numbers (Which will be very tedious to do but will get done in due course). I'm not keen on putting in full specifications as it'd get too unwieldy but with hyperlinking something may be sorted. Wading through the morass of HTML that is a table is no fun at all though. Ultimately, temperature and runtime data and links to standardised beamshots would come in handy. Sadly, i have a day job so this lot is going to take some considerable time or never get done. Meanwhile, here are some numbers. If anyone wants the spreadsheet from which this is generated, PM me with an email address and I'll email it.
Sorted by light
Light
Battery
Lightbox Immediate
Lightbox 30 seconds
4Sevens Preon 2 High
2Alk. AAA
892
823
4Sevens Preon 2 High
2AAA NiMH
1074
944
4Sevens Preon 2 Low
2AAA NiMH
18
18
4Sevens Preon 2 Low
2Alk. AAA
18
18
4Sevens Preon 2 Med
2AAA NiMH
187
182
4Sevens Preon 2 Med
2Alk. AAA
195
188
a first batch Aurora SH-034
RCR123
1016
Akoray K-103
10440
697
681
Akoray K-106
AA NiMH
189
198
Akoray K-106
14500
1055
1019
Aurora AK-P7 High
18650
2420
2140
Aurora AK-P7 Low
18650
266
269
Aurora SH-033
RCR2
744
Aurora SH-035
AA NiMH
644
Aurora SH-035 High
14500
898
856
Aurora SH-035 Low
14500
36
36
Aurora SH-035 Med
14500
269
266
Aurora SH0031
Alk. AAA
142
99
BLF DeLight 1
AA NiMH
135
144
Elektrolumens triple K2
4C NiMH
1351
1284
Elektrolumens triple K2 Old cells
4C NiMH
679
452
Fenix E0
AAA NiMH
20
20
Fenix E0 *
Alk. AAA
12
12
Fenix E01
AAA NiMH
31
31
Fenix E01
Alk. AAA
37
33
Fenix P3D High
2xCR123
469
462
Fenix P3D Low
2xCR123
30
30
Fenix P3D Medium
2xCR123
197
198
Fenix P3D Turbo
2xCR123
894
858
Fusion 36 dropin
3D NiMH
1399
1382
Fusion 36 dropin
6D NiCd
1937
1868
Golston "7W"
2xRCR123
425
327
Hugsby P31 with P32 Gold driver
14500
1176
1084
Hugsby P32 High
Li Primary
527
472
Hugsby P32 High
AA NiMH
650
597
Hugsby P32 Low
Li Primary
201
197
Hugsby P32 Low
AA NiMH
214
199
Lumahunter MRV SE High
18650
1462
1380
Lumapower MRV SE Low
18650
110
110
Lumapower MRV SE Medium
18650
630
634
Maglite Solitaire w. Lambda LED
Alk AAA
34
33
MDXL "3W"
AA NiMH
69
72
Mrlite Lipstick
AAA NiMH
214
201
MX Power ML-310 High
14500
900
798
MX Power ML-310 Low
14500
216
211
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E High
18650
2400
2280
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E Low
18650
282
286
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E Med
18650
800
816
Powerlight 1
AA NiMH
64
64
Romisen RC-C6 high wide
RCR123
697
732
Romisen RC-C6 High Zoom
RCR123
333
335
Romisen RC-C6 Low wide
RCR123
181
189
Romisen RC-C6 Low Zoom
RCR123
95
97
Romisen RC-F4
2xRCR123
901
731
Romisen RC-T5 High
2 18650
2490
2290
Romisen RC-T5 Low
2 18650
990
989
Romisen RC-T6 High
2 18650
3760
3620
Romisen RC-T6 Low
2 18650
1615
1535
Romisen RC-T6 Medium
2 18650
2490
2390
ROP High
2x32600
3760
3600
ROP Low
6D NiMH
1670
1568
Smallsun ZY-C85
14500
867
766
Smallsun ZY-C85 full zoom
14500
581
542
Solarforce L2M DX P7
18650
1956
Solarforce L2R Solarforce low voltage R2
2xNiMH
779
Solarforce Skyline 1
2 CR123
880
Tank007 E07 (1)
AA NiMH
423
372
Tank007 E07 (2)
AA NiMH
310
385
Tank007 TK-703
Alk. AAA
237
181
Tank007 TK-703
AAA NiMH
445
395
TiKey
3xLR44
81
71
Trustfire F22
AA NiMH
586
Trustfire F22
14500
1254
1128
Trustfire R5-A3
AA NiMH
650
Trustfire R5-A3
14500
1630
1482
Trustfire XP-E F23 High
AAA NiMH
383
334
Trustfire XP-E F23 High
10440
957
785
Trustfire XP-E F23 Low
10440
90
88
Trustfire XP-E F23 Low **
AAA NiMH
33
34
Trustfire Z1 High
RCR123
919
875
Trustfire Z1 low
RCR123
87
90
Ultra-budget C3 clone
2xNiMH
144
111
Ultrafire A1 High
RCR123
813
771
Ultrafire A1 Low
RCR123
45
45
Ultrafire A1 Medium
RCR123
274
272
Ultrafire A30B
RCR123
909
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5
AA NiMH
718
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5
14500
1391
1259
Ultrafire RL-118
RCR123
1260
Ultrafire WF-500
2 18650
2300
2040
Ultrafire WF-501B M bin MC-E
18650
3240
2990
Ultrafire WF-502B R2 single mode
18650
940
Ultrafire WF-503B DX MC-E High
18650
1508
1407
Ultrafire WF-503B DX MC-E Low
18650
540
550
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 High
18650
1148
1092
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 Low
18650
155
155
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 Med
18650
445
442
Ultrafire WF-504B KD MC-E High
18650
2400
2360
Ultrafire WF-504B KD MC-E Low
18650
75
75
Ultrafire WF-504B KD MC-E Med
18650
1819
1733
Ultrafire WF-602C
10440
210
190
Uniquefire AA-S1
AA NiMH
565
557
Uniquefire AA-S1
14500
1255
1183
Uniquefire AA-S1
Li Primary
502
446
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin
2 RCR123
1437
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin
18650
1578
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5 High
2 IMR16340
1477
1320
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5 High
18650
1599
1409
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5 Low
18650
73
73
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5 Med
18650
144
143
Uniquefire S10
AA NiMH
575
Uniquefire S10
14500
1112
1017
Varapower prototype
4C NiMH
8650
8330
Sorted by output
Light
Battery
Lightbox Immediate
Lightbox 30 seconds
Fenix E0 *
Alk. AAA
12
12
4Sevens Preon 2 Low
2AAA NiMH
18
18
4Sevens Preon 2 Low
2Alk. AAA
18
18
Fenix E0
AAA NiMH
20
20
Fenix P3D Low
2xCR123
30
30
Fenix E01
AAA NiMH
31
31
Trustfire XP-E F23 Low **
AAA NiMH
33
34
Maglite Solitaire w. Lambda LED
Alk AAA
34
33
Aurora SH-035 Low
14500
36
36
Fenix E01
Alk. AAA
37
33
Ultrafire A1 Low
RCR123
45
45
Powerlight 1
AA NiMH
64
64
MDXL "3W"
AA NiMH
69
72
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5 Low
18650
73
73
Ultrafire WF-504B KD MC-E Low
18650
75
75
TiKey
3xLR44
81
71
Trustfire Z1 low
RCR123
87
90
Trustfire XP-E F23 Low
10440
90
88
Romisen RC-C6 Low Zoom
RCR123
95
97
Lumapower MRV SE Low
18650
110
110
BLF DeLight 1
AA NiMH
135
144
Aurora SH0031
Alk. AAA
142
99
Ultra-budget C3 clone
2xNiMH
144
111
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5 Med
18650
144
143
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 Low
18650
155
155
Romisen RC-C6 Low wide
RCR123
181
189
4Sevens Preon 2 Med
2AAA NiMH
187
182
Akoray K-106
AA NiMH
189
198
4Sevens Preon 2 Med
2Alk. AAA
195
188
Fenix P3D Medium
2xCR123
197
198
Hugsby P32 Low
Li Primary
201
197
Ultrafire WF-602C
10440
210
190
Hugsby P32 Low
AA NiMH
214
199
Mrlite Lipstick
AAA NiMH
214
201
MX Power ML-310 Low
14500
216
211
Tank007 TK-703
Alk. AAA
237
181
Aurora AK-P7 Low
18650
266
269
Aurora SH-035 Med
14500
269
266
Ultrafire A1 Medium
RCR123
274
272
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E Low
18650
282
286
Tank007 E07 (2)
AA NiMH
310
385
Romisen RC-C6 High Zoom
RCR123
333
335
Trustfire XP-E F23 High
AAA NiMH
383
334
Tank007 E07 (1)
AA NiMH
423
372
Golston "7W"
2xRCR123
425
327
Tank007 TK-703
AAA NiMH
445
395
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 Med
18650
445
442
Fenix P3D High
2xCR123
469
462
Uniquefire AA-S1
Li Primary
502
446
Hugsby P32 High
Li Primary
527
472
Ultrafire WF-503B DX MC-E Low
18650
540
550
Uniquefire AA-S1
AA NiMH
565
557
Uniquefire S10
AA NiMH
575
Smallsun ZY-C85 full zoom
14500
581
542
Trustfire F22
AA NiMH
586
Lumapower MRV SE Medium
18650
630
634
Aurora SH-035
AA NiMH
644
Hugsby P32 High
AA NiMH
650
597
Trustfire R5-A3
AA NiMH
650
Elektrolumens triple K2 Old cells
4C NiMH
679
452
Akoray K-103
10440
697
681
Romisen RC-C6 high wide
RCR123
697
732
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5
AA NiMH
718
Aurora SH-033
RCR2
744
Solarforce L2R Solarforce low voltage R2
2xNiMH
779
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E Med
18650
800
816
Ultrafire A1 High
RCR123
813
771
Smallsun ZY-C85
14500
867
766
Solarforce Skyline 1
2 CR123
880
4Sevens Preon 2 High
2Alk. AAA
892
823
Fenix P3D Turbo
2xCR123
894
858
Aurora SH-035 High
14500
898
856
MX Power ML-310 High
14500
900
798
Romisen RC-F4
2xRCR123
901
731
Ultrafire A30B
RCR123
909
Trustfire Z1 High
RCR123
919
875
Ultrafire WF-502B R2 single mode
18650
940
Trustfire XP-E F23 High
10440
957
785
Romisen RC-T5 Low
2 18650
990
989
a first batch Aurora SH-034
RCR123
1016
Akoray K-106
14500
1055
1019
4Sevens Preon 2 High
2AAA NiMH
1074
944
Uniquefire S10
14500
1112
1017
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 High
18650
1148
1092
Hugsby P31 with P32 Gold driver
14500
1176
1084
Trustfire F22
14500
1254
1128
Uniquefire AA-S1
14500
1255
1183
Ultrafire RL-118
RCR123
1260
Elektrolumens triple K2
4C NiMH
1351
1284
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5
14500
1391
1259
Fusion 36 dropin
3D NiMH
1399
1382
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin
2 RCR123
1437
Lumahunter MRV SE High
18650
1462
1380
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5 High
2 IMR16340
1477
1320
Ultrafire WF-503B DX MC-E High
18650
1508
1407
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin
18650
1578
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5 High
18650
1599
1409
Romisen RC-T6 Low
2 18650
1615
1535
Trustfire R5-A3
14500
1630
1482
ROP Low
6D NiMH
1670
1568
Ultrafire WF-504B KD MC-E Med
18650
1819
1733
Fusion 36 dropin
6D NiCd
1937
1868
Solarforce L2M DX P7
18650
1956
Ultrafire WF-500
2 18650
2300
2040
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E High
18650
2400
2280
Ultrafire WF-504B KD MC-E High
18650
2400
2360
Aurora AK-P7 High
18650
2420
2140
Romisen RC-T5 High
2 18650
2490
2290
Romisen RC-T6 Medium
2 18650
2490
2390
Ultrafire WF-501B M bin MC-E
18650
3240
2990
Romisen RC-T6 High
2 18650
3760
3620
ROP High
2x32600
3760
3600
Varapower prototype
4C NiMH
8650
8330
anduril
(anduril)
September 3, 2010, 6:00am
57
Wow. You're just great. I think this is the most exhaustive flashlight numbers comparison ever :)
As for the source doc, don't bother - it took me 10 seconds to create a spreadsheet out of your table
Don
(Don)
September 3, 2010, 6:43am
59
anduril:
Wow. You're just great. I think this is the most exhaustive flashlight numbers comparison ever :)
As for the source doc, don't bother - it took me 10 seconds to create a spreadsheet out of your table
At least of affordable ones - I spent several hours last night wading through 39 pages of the CPF equivalent to get some reasonably accurate data points. There is almost a complete lack of overlap. Two dropins and about 3 lights.
Nautic
(Nautic)
September 3, 2010, 7:51am
60
I use your list a lot. Good work!
With your permission I make my own spreadsheet very easy by marking the whole list
here, then open my Excel and copy it into a new sheet. Then I format the cells to the
height and width of my liking.
Nautic
(Nautic)
September 6, 2010, 5:49pm
61
Hi Don
On your review on the Uniquefire S10 on Jayki.com you state in one of the comments
that the S10 is brighter than the S1.
In the above table its the other way round. Please, could you explain this difference, thanks.