LED ENGIN 365nm LZ1 in carbon fiber solarforce

Do you have a photo of just the P60 drop in? How does this compare to say the Kaidoman 365UV drop in?

The Kaidomain one is the one I’ve had, still have, and it doesn’t even begin to compare to the LZ-1. Seriously, it’s a toy beside the much better LED ENGIN emitter.

I have no idea how it compares but I’d guess (tho probably a little biased) that it kills it in every possible way lol. They just use some generic no name Chineese emitter right?

Sorry but I don’t have any pic’s of just the drop in but I’m not willing to sell it like that anyway. It looks just about standard, the only real difference is the emitter shelf thickness, the machine marks and the reflector had to be shortened (on the back side) to work with the MP1 pill.
The MP1 pills are fully machined from solid stock where a standard cheap P60 pill is stamped to shape then threaded so the emitter shelves are almost never a consistent thickness or flat (why if you search around people have came up with so many methods for flattening them). They also don’t quite fit stock, the bottom rim has to be beveled just slightly to allow them to seat fully in the head.

Thanks for the creepy crawly pic’s. I’m trying to go to bed here lol.

Just looked closer at those pic’s (don’t know why!). Man I’m glad we don’t have that crap here! There is this one bug that gives me the creepy-crawleys still- Google image “house centipede”. Those things get a few inches long and are faster than people, they bite AND sting (at the same time if you piss ’em off enough). That’s enough for me. I’ll take spiders any day (tho there are lots of spiders that glow in UV too and that makes anything more spooky).

The strobing really makes stuff stand out btw, just incase glowing brightly isnt enough on its own it strobes at 22.5Hz too.

If you can program for me a mode where it blinks once every 2-5 min ill take it.

you have a very specific need ???

Just an idea, no real idea of how well it will work comparatively though. Im looking to do something similar to the muel light that uses leds and gitd bits set in epoxy that was posted here a while ago. But I want it to be more p60 based, the cf host is just a bonus.

I’m not a fan of house centipedes either. Always been glad they apparently don’t bite often and may not be able to break the skin.

I’ll take spiders too over centipedes. Well, as long as they are not too large.

Caught this big spider once. Size of the palm of my hand. Grabbed him with thick leather gloves and damn, I could feel the sob struggling hard through the gloves. Strongest friggin bug I’ve come across. Found it 2 feet from the head of a family member who was laying on the floor watching tv. Just caught sight of its two legs visible under a table and I could tell it was a big spider. Probably still have it in a jar in the basement.

Thanks for the clarifications DBCstm and cereal_killer.

Wow! A huge difference. Thank you for the pics.

Looks like my camera auto-corrected white balance to make white appear white, the LZ-1 is so intense that white paper glows vividly 365nm, so much so that if you’re shining the LZ-1 into a room that has little or no phosphorescent objects the light seems dim, then a single object that reacts actually lights up the room with it’s vivid glow!

I put the camera (Canon G1X) on a tripod in manual mode, 1/4 sec at f/5.6 and ISO1600 on a 2 second timed exposure then took these shots. 28mm equivalent, about 8’ distance to the box with USPS shipping label glowing brightly. The only thing I did in Lightroom 4 is add the watermark and downsize. Then downsized again from Photoshop after making the animated GIF.

I’ve got my LZ-1 set up at 700mA, the Kaidomain drop-in does 310mA off a Sanyo FJ cell, but drops with a 25R to 280mA. It’ll take multiple cells and the amperage drops accordingly.

That pic is actually somewhat misleading, as it makes the Kaidomain look better than what it is. lol If shining at the ground looking for bugs, the Kaidomain barely makes a hot spot…you just about have to bend over and get it closer to the ground. The LZ-1 easily makes an intense area of coverage while standing, even reaching out to the surrounding area so you can find something and then hone in on it.

And in the Solarforce L2m, I have an AHorton aspheric under the bezel such that unscrewing the head about a 1/4” focuses the die into a square pattern…dependent on distance of course. I used one of Mattaus’ copper shells and a copper spacer from RMM in the host. Just saying that my set-up is not the same as Dan’s. And I’m not running my LZ-1 as hard either. I’m using a standard Qlite with 6 chips removed.

How is the output compared to the Nitecore CU6? I note that Nitecore claims 3000mw of UV which seems pretty outrageous if true. The Nitecore looks a little more versatile too with the white mode and the RGB small LEDs.

http://www.nitecore.com/productDetail.aspx?id=104#.VF-CD2fYfQI

The way ck has it setup it’s probably at 1200mw. The emitter he’s using is a top quality emitter, true 365nm and inside a fantastic host.

I don’t have that Nitecore light so I won’t comment. Sorry ck your sales thread is coming off the rails.

No need to apologize, it’s a light forum, we’re talking about a light. As for the Nitecore question I own a CR6 (modded with an XP-L and red XP-E2) but the CU/CI6 were both to rich for my blood so I have no idea.

As for the house centipede’s, they get HUGE here, biggest one Ive seen was (absolutely no exaggeration) about 3.5-4” (bigger than my hand is wide). That thank god was outside, biggest one I’ve ever seen in the house was only about 2.5”, when I stepped on it it was so big it actually felt like stepping on a rock, it didn’t just flatten, had to scrape it off my shoe. I’ve been stung by one, I’d compare it to a honey bee sting, not wasp/jacket. The pain went away faster too, I’m guessing I react less to their venom.

I’ll have to look into it, should be able to no problem but I don’t have anything like that now so I’ll have to write it.

One thing is, the timer’s in these 8-bit uC’s arnt very accurate, the longer you leave it on (from a mode change) the more inaccurate it will be. Since you say “2-5 sec” I’m guessing you won’t mind tho.

Actually he said every 2-5min. Not sure if you read the wrong thing or wrote the wrong thing, but I figured I’d point it out before you do any work, just in case.

What wasn’t clear to me was whether Serifus wanted it to stay on constantly except for a blink to “off” every 2-5 min, or stay off constantly and blink on every 2-5min. Either way it seems strange to me!

The Nichia NVSU233A and the LED ENGIN LZ-1 are the top of the class emitters in the UV dept. Each claim ~1000mw output at 3.75-4.2Vf. Each claim a max 1A current.

The highest output UV emitter Nichia makes is the 4 die NC4U133A, at 1950mw output but with a 15-17.3Vf. 500mA max current.

The LED ENGIN LZ-1 is reputed to be the highest output 365nm UV emitter, winning awards for it’s output. And costs almost half of what the Nichia version costs, at $36 vs $69. These are both highly regarded 365nm UV light sources as used in the Medical field.

These things being said, as far as the 365nm range of UV lights go, I’m gonna have to call BS on Nitecore.

If a series of timed photographs were taken under UV, then put together in an animated GIF, it could be very interesting. :slight_smile: