Various lights with lumen estimates

Then maybe use Google Docs?

Example with one hyperlink just to prove it's working:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AplkeaML5HxCdE9KejFCVnM5enA5M1FSdzh0cW1Damc&hl=en&authkey=COqJn5kL

You also gain the nice ability to sort by name/lumen/whatever.

Looks like a very worthwhile place to investigate. Ultimately, what I want to do is a website in a table. How far that is possible within the time I have available is another matter.

But if Google Docs prevents me having to fight with M$ Office bugs then it's OK with me. I detest Microsoft software - I have spent too much time fighting it to do what i want. In a Word (95/97/2003) document it is not possible to embed more than 31 live spreadsheets. It will let you embed more than that, but the document will never open again. Got bitten by that one for the woman I love's thesis. The time to find this out is certainly not two days before the deadline when the data was still trickling in.

I will investigate Google Docs. I can do all of this in Excel (spit!) but not as live HTML. Pity I completely loathe Google and prefer not to use their products at all. Frankly, I'd rather use Microsoft than Google. And that is from someone who has been using Macs since 1989 and various Unix variants since about the same time.

Just don't ask me to use Solaris! (Slowlaris!) Despite owning a couple of Sun boxes.

However, exporting a spreadsheet of numbers to them is unlikely to leak data I'd rather it didn't. And by the time I've finished cleaning the data....

Unfortunately - I have a strange feeling that you will find more bugs in beta GDocs than in stationary Word/Excel...

Its main strength is mobility, not functionality. But still very useful in some cases.

You are right about Google - it's everywhere.

Photos? Picasa. Docs? GDocs. Search engine? Hmmmm... Bing? ;)

Still, there are some exceptions... I do not have Google in my phone (Windows Mobile > Android) and browser (Firefox > Chrome).

Anyway - it was just a hint :)

Hugsby P32 low NiMH and the showerhead on 3 8,000mAh D cells. I'll also run the showerhead on 6Ds but that will take a while. Runtime for the showerhead going now - I expect about 7 hours.

Light Battery Lightbox Immediate
Fenix E01 AAA 37
Powerlight 1 NiMH 64
MDXL "3W" NiMH 69
TiKey 3xLR44 81
Lumapower MRV SE Low 18650 110
BLF DeLight 1 NiMH 135
Aurora SH0031 Alk. AAA 142
Ultra-budget C3 clone 2xNiMH 144
Mrlite Lipstick AAA NiMH 214
Hugsby P32 Low AA NiMH 214
Akoray K-106 NiMH 222
Golston "7W" 2xRCR123 390
Trustfire XP-E F23 AAA NiMH 396
Smallsun ZY-C85 full zoom 14500 456
Uniquefire AA-S1 NiMH 565
Uniquefire S10 NiMH 575
Trustfire F22 NiMH 586
Romisen RC-C6 RCR123 618
Lumapower MRV SE Medium 18650 630
Aurora SH-035 NiMH 644
Hugsby P32 High NiMH 650
Trustfire R5-A3 NiMH 650
Smallsun ZY-C85 14500 654
Akoray K-103 10440 697
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5 NiMH 718
Aurora SH-033 RCR2 744
Solarforce L2R Solarforce low voltage R2 2xNiMH 779
Aurora SH-035 14500 785
Trustfire XP-E F23 10440 850
MX Power ML-310 14500 857
Solarforce Skyline 1 2 CR123 880
Trustfire Z1 RCR123 889
Ultrafire A30B RCR123 909
Ultrafire WF-502B R2 single mode 18650 940
a first batch Aurora SH-034 RCR123 1016
Akoray K-106 14500 1055
Ultrafire WF-504B with the 5 mode R2 18650 1102
Uniquefire S10 14500 1112
Trustfire F22 14500 1254
Uniquefire AA-S1 14500 1255
Ultrafire RL-118 RCR123 1260
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5 14500 1391
Showerhead 3D NiMH 1399
ROP Low 6D NiCd 1401
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin 2 RCR123 1437
Lumahunter MRV SE 18650 1462
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5 18650 1565
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin 18650 1578
Trustfire R5-A3 14500 1630
Ultrafire WF-503B DX MC-E 18650 1636
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E 18650 1735
Solarforce L2M DX P7 18650 1956
Ultrafire WF-500 2 18650 2020
Ultrafire Wf-504B KD MC-E 18650 2310
Aurora AK-P7 18650 2420
Ultrafire WF-501B M bin MC-E 18650 3220
ROP High 2x32600 3760
Varapower prototype 4C NiMH 8650
Light Battery Lightbox Immediate
Fenix E01 AAA 37
Powerlight 1 NiMH 64
MDXL "3W" NiMH 69
TiKey 3xLR44 81
Trustfire Z1 low RCR123 87
Romisen RC-C6 Low Zoom RCR123 95
Lumapower MRV SE Low 18650 110
BLF DeLight 1 NiMH 135
Aurora SH0031 Alk. AAA 142
Ultra-budget C3 clone 2xNiMH 144
Romisen RC-C6 Low wide RCR123 181
Hugsby P32 Low AA NiMH 214
Mrlite Lipstick AAA NiMH 214
Akoray K-106 NiMH 222
Romisen RC-C6 High Zoom RCR123 333
Golston "7W" 2xRCR123 390
Trustfire XP-E F23 AAA NiMH 396
Smallsun ZY-C85 full zoom 14500 456
Uniquefire AA-S1 NiMH 565
Uniquefire S10 NiMH 575
Trustfire F22 NiMH 586
Lumapower MRV SE Medium 18650 630
Aurora SH-035 NiMH 644
Hugsby P32 High NiMH 650
Trustfire R5-A3 NiMH 650
Smallsun ZY-C85 14500 654
Akoray K-103 10440 697
Romisen RC-C6 high wide RCR123 697
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5 NiMH 718
Aurora SH-033 RCR2 744
Solarforce L2R Solarforce low voltage R2 2xNiMH 779
Aurora SH-035 14500 785
Trustfire XP-E F23 10440 850
MX Power ML-310 14500 857
Solarforce Skyline 1 2 CR123 880
Ultrafire A30B RCR123 909
Trustfire Z1 High RCR123 919
Ultrafire WF-502B R2 single mode 18650 940
a first batch Aurora SH-034 RCR123 1016
Akoray K-106 14500 1055
Ultrafire WF-504B with the 5 mode R2 18650 1102
Uniquefire S10 14500 1112
Trustfire F22 14500 1254
Uniquefire AA-S1 14500 1255
Ultrafire RL-118 RCR123 1260
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5 14500 1391
Showerhead 3D NiMH 1399
ROP Low 6D NiCd 1401
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin 2 RCR123 1437
Lumahunter MRV SE 18650 1462
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5 18650 1565
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin 18650 1578
Trustfire R5-A3 14500 1630
Ultrafire WF-503B DX MC-E 18650 1636
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E 18650 1735
Showerhead 6D NiCd 1937
Solarforce L2M DX P7 18650 1956
Ultrafire WF-500 2 18650 2020
Ultrafire Wf-504B KD MC-E 18650 2310
Aurora AK-P7 18650 2420
Ultrafire WF-501B M bin MC-E 18650 3220
ROP High 2x32600 3760
Varapower prototype 4C NiMH 8650

The Trustfire Z1 gets hot on high. Nothing intolerable at two minutes but feels like it is going to get hotter. Will investigate in due course.

Hi Don

i take it the showerhead is the Fusion 36

if it is there is a noticable jump in output on the ceiling bounce test when it is fed 7.2v and over but it dose not like beeing over driven past 9v as recomended by the manufacturer

i ran one on 3 x 18500s = 12.20v all in the name of science you understand Wink oh and i wanted to see how long it would last Surprised the regulater circit burnt out after 2 hours but it was giving my terralux M300 a run for its money

You got it, just couldn't remember the official name when I was typing it into the spreadsheet.

I'm like you Don i detest office but have it just to open certain files.. I do like the Apple version of Excel (numbers) it's much nicer to use. I even prefer Claris works to Office lol

Numbers have changed for some lights as I've used a more rigorous battery regime. Each test is done with cells fresh from the charger.

Light Battery Lightbox Immediate
Fenix E01 AAA 37
Powerlight 1 NiMH 64
MDXL "3W" NiMH 69
TiKey 3xLR44 81
Trustfire Z1 low RCR123 87
Romisen RC-C6 Low Zoom RCR123 95
Lumapower MRV SE Low 18650 110
BLF DeLight 1 NiMH 135
Aurora SH0031 Alk. AAA 142
Ultra-budget C3 clone 2xNiMH 144
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 Low 18650 155
Romisen RC-C6 Low wide RCR123 181
Hugsby P32 Low AA NiMH 214
Mrlite Lipstick AAA NiMH 214
Akoray K-106 NiMH 222
Aurora AK-P7 Low 18650 266
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E Low 18650 282
Romisen RC-C6 High Zoom RCR123 333
Golston "7W" 2xRCR123 390
Trustfire XP-E F23 AAA NiMH 396
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 Med 18650 445
Smallsun ZY-C85 full zoom 14500 456
Uniquefire AA-S1 NiMH 565
Uniquefire S10 NiMH 575
Trustfire F22 NiMH 586
Lumapower MRV SE Medium 18650 630
Aurora SH-035 NiMH 644
Hugsby P32 High NiMH 650
Trustfire R5-A3 NiMH 650
Smallsun ZY-C85 14500 654
Akoray K-103 10440 697
Romisen RC-C6 high wide RCR123 697
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5 NiMH 718
Aurora SH-033 RCR2 744
Solarforce L2R Solarforce low voltage R2 2xNiMH 779
Aurora SH-035 14500 785
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E Med 18650 800
Trustfire XP-E F23 10440 850
MX Power ML-310 14500 857
Solarforce Skyline 1 2 CR123 880
Ultrafire A30B RCR123 909
Trustfire Z1 High RCR123 919
Ultrafire WF-502B R2 single mode 18650 940
a first batch Aurora SH-034 RCR123 1016
Akoray K-106 14500 1055
Uniquefire S10 14500 1112
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 High 18650 1148
Trustfire F22 14500 1254
Uniquefire AA-S1 14500 1255
Ultrafire RL-118 RCR123 1260
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5 14500 1391
Fusion 36 dropin 3D NiMH 1399
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin 2 RCR123 1437
Lumahunter MRV SE High 18650 1462
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5 18650 1565
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin 18650 1578
Trustfire R5-A3 14500 1630
Ultrafire WF-503B DX MC-E 18650 1636
ROP Low 6D NiMH 1670
Fusion 36 dropin 6D NiCd 1937
Solarforce L2M DX P7 18650 1956
Ultrafire WF-500 2 18650 2300
Ultrafire Wf-504B KD MC-E 18650 2310
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E High 18650 2400
Aurora AK-P7 High 18650 2420
Ultrafire WF-501B M bin MC-E 18650 3240
ROP High 2x32600 3760
Varapower prototype 4C NiMH 8650

I make this little lot 51 different lights. Will add the other 50 or so in due course. But it is going to take a while.

Light Battery Lightbox Immediate
Fenix E0 Alk. AAA 12
Trustfire XP-E F23 Low AAA NiMH 33
Maglite Solitaire w. Lambda LED Alk AAA 34
Aurora SH-035 Low 14500 36
Fenix E01 AAA 37
Powerlight 1 AA NiMH 64
MDXL "3W" AA NiMH 69
TiKey 3xLR44 81
Trustfire Z1 low RCR123 87
Trustfire XP-E F23 Low 10440 90
Romisen RC-C6 Low Zoom RCR123 95
Lumapower MRV SE Low 18650 110
BLF DeLight 1 AA NiMH 135
Aurora SH0031 Alk. AAA 142
Ultra-budget C3 clone 2xNiMH 144
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 Low 18650 155
Romisen RC-C6 Low wide RCR123 181
Akoray K-106 AA NiMH 189
Ultraqfire WF-602C 10440 210
Hugsby P32 Low AA NiMH 214
Mrlite Lipstick AAA NiMH 214
MX Power ML-310 Low 14500 216
Tank007 TK-703 Alk. AAA 237
Aurora AK-P7 Low 18650 266
Aurora SH-035 Med 14500 269
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E Low 18650 282
Tank007 E07 (2) AA NiMH 310
Romisen RC-C6 High Zoom RCR123 333
Trustfire XP-E F23 High AAA NiMH 383
Tank007 E07 (1) AA NiMH 423
Golston "7W" 2xRCR123 425
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 Med 18650 445
Uniquefire AA-S1 AA NiMH 565
Uniquefire S10 AA NiMH 575
Smallsun ZY-C85 full zoom 14500 581
Trustfire F22 AA NiMH 586
Lumapower MRV SE Medium 18650 630
Aurora SH-035 AA NiMH 644
Hugsby P32 High AA NiMH 650
Trustfire R5-A3 AA NiMH 650
Akoray K-103 10440 697
Romisen RC-C6 high wide RCR123 697
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5 AA NiMH 718
Aurora SH-033 RCR2 744
Solarforce L2R Solarforce low voltage R2 2xNiMH 779
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E Med 18650 800
Smallsun ZY-C85 14500 867
Solarforce Skyline 1 2 CR123 880
Aurora SH-035 High 14500 898
MX Power ML-310 High 14500 900
Ultrafire A30B RCR123 909
Trustfire Z1 High RCR123 919
Ultrafire WF-502B R2 single mode 18650 940
Trustfire XP-E F23 High 10440 957
a first batch Aurora SH-034 RCR123 1016
Akoray K-106 14500 1055
Uniquefire S10 14500 1112
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 High 18650 1148
Trustfire F22 14500 1254
Uniquefire AA-S1 14500 1255
Ultrafire RL-118 RCR123 1260
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5 14500 1391
Fusion 36 dropin 3D NiMH 1399
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin 2 RCR123 1437
Lumahunter MRV SE High 18650 1462
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5 18650 1565
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin 18650 1578
Trustfire R5-A3 14500 1630
Ultrafire WF-503B DX MC-E 18650 1636
ROP Low 6D NiMH 1670
Fusion 36 dropin 6D NiCd 1937
Solarforce L2M DX P7 18650 1956
Ultrafire WF-500 2 18650 2300
Ultrafire Wf-504B KD MC-E 18650 2310
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E High 18650 2400
Aurora AK-P7 High 18650 2420
Ultrafire WF-501B M bin MC-E 18650 3240
ROP High 2x32600 3760
Varapower prototype 4C NiMH 8650

This invalidates all of my lumen estimates. Even if we say the Preon 2 on alkalines is 160 lumens at switch on the numbers change quite a bit. The first table is the numbers using the previous assumptions.

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Light Battery Lightbox Immediate
Fenix E0 Alk. AAA 12
Trustfire XP-E F23 Low AAA NiMH 33
Maglite Solitaire w. Lambda LED Alk AAA 34
Aurora SH-035 Low 14500 36
Fenix E01 AAA 37
Powerlight 1 AA NiMH 64
MDXL "3W" AA NiMH 69
TiKey 3xLR44 81
Trustfire Z1 low RCR123 87
Trustfire XP-E F23 Low 10440 90
Romisen RC-C6 Low Zoom RCR123 95
Lumapower MRV SE Low 18650 110
BLF DeLight 1 AA NiMH 135
Aurora SH0031 Alk. AAA 142
Ultra-budget C3 clone 2xNiMH 144
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 Low 18650 155
Romisen RC-C6 Low wide RCR123 181
Akoray K-106 AA NiMH 189
Ultraqfire WF-602C 10440 210
Hugsby P32 Low AA NiMH 214
Mrlite Lipstick AAA NiMH 214
MX Power ML-310 Low 14500 216
Tank007 TK-703 Alk. AAA 237
Aurora AK-P7 Low 18650 266
Aurora SH-035 Med 14500 269
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E Low 18650 282
Tank007 E07 (2) AA NiMH 310
Romisen RC-C6 High Zoom RCR123 333
Trustfire XP-E F23 High AAA NiMH 383
Tank007 E07 (1) AA NiMH 423
Golston "7W" 2xRCR123 425
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 Med 18650 445
Uniquefire AA-S1 AA NiMH 565
Uniquefire S10 AA NiMH 575
Smallsun ZY-C85 full zoom 14500 581
Trustfire F22 AA NiMH 586
Lumapower MRV SE Medium 18650 630
Aurora SH-035 AA NiMH 644
Hugsby P32 High AA NiMH 650
Trustfire R5-A3 AA NiMH 650
Akoray K-103 10440 697
Romisen RC-C6 high wide RCR123 697
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5 AA NiMH 718
Aurora SH-033 RCR2 744
Solarforce L2R Solarforce low voltage R2 2xNiMH 779
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E Med 18650 800
Smallsun ZY-C85 14500 867
Solarforce Skyline 1 2 CR123 880
Aurora SH-035 High 14500 898
MX Power ML-310 High 14500 900
Ultrafire A30B RCR123 909
Trustfire Z1 High RCR123 919
Ultrafire WF-502B R2 single mode 18650 940
Trustfire XP-E F23 High 10440 957
a first batch Aurora SH-034 RCR123 1016
Akoray K-106 14500 1055
Uniquefire S10 14500 1112
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 High 18650 1148
Trustfire F22 14500 1254
Uniquefire AA-S1 14500 1255
Ultrafire RL-118 RCR123 1260
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5 14500 1391
Fusion 36 dropin 3D NiMH 1399
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin 2 RCR123 1437
Lumahunter MRV SE High 18650 1462
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5 18650 1565
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin 18650 1578
Trustfire R5-A3 14500 1630
Ultrafire WF-503B DX MC-E 18650 1636
ROP Low 6D NiMH 1670
Fusion 36 dropin 6D NiCd 1937
Solarforce L2M DX P7 18650 1956
Ultrafire WF-500 2 18650 2300
Ultrafire Wf-504B KD MC-E 18650 2310
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E High 18650 2400
Aurora AK-P7 High 18650 2420
Ultrafire WF-501B M bin MC-E 18650 3240
ROP High 2x32600 3760
Varapower prototype 4C NiMH 8650
4Sevens Preon 2 High 2AAA NiMH 1074
4Sevens Preon 2 High 2Alk. AAA 892
4Sevens Preon 2 Med 2AAA NiMH 187
4Sevens Preon 2 Med 2Alk. AAA 195
4Sevens Preon 2 Low 2AAA NiMH 18
4Sevens Preon 2 Low 2Alk. AAA 18

Since my dividing factor is now 892 (at best) instead of 720 I'll do a new post with new numbers. The numbers in this table feel too high anyway so a downscaling will likely get it into more sensible territory.

There are a couple of notes at the bottom:

Light Battery Lightbox Immediate
Fenix E0 * Alk. AAA 12
4Sevens Preon 2 Low 2AAA NiMH 18
4Sevens Preon 2 Low 2Alk. AAA 18
Trustfire XP-E F23 Low ** AAA NiMH 33
Maglite Solitaire w. Lambda LED Alk AAA 34
Aurora SH-035 Low 14500 36
Fenix E01 *** AAA 37
Powerlight 1 AA NiMH 64
MDXL "3W" AA NiMH 69
TiKey 3xLR44 81
Trustfire Z1 low RCR123 87
Trustfire XP-E F23 Low 10440 90
Romisen RC-C6 Low Zoom RCR123 95
Lumapower MRV SE Low 18650 110
BLF DeLight 1 AA NiMH 135
Aurora SH0031 **** Alk. AAA 142
Ultra-budget C3 clone 2xNiMH 144
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 Low 18650 155
Romisen RC-C6 Low wide RCR123 181
4Sevens Preon 2 Med 2AAA NiMH 187
Akoray K-106 AA NiMH 189
4Sevens Preon 2 Med 2Alk. AAA 195
Ultraqfire WF-602C 10440 210
Hugsby P32 Low AA NiMH 214
Mrlite Lipstick ***** AAA NiMH 214
MX Power ML-310 Low 14500 216
Tank007 TK-703 Alk. AAA 237
Aurora AK-P7 Low 18650 266
Aurora SH-035 Med 14500 269
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E Low 18650 282
Tank007 E07 (2) AA NiMH 310
Romisen RC-C6 High Zoom RCR123 333
Trustfire XP-E F23 High AAA NiMH 383
Tank007 E07 (1) AA NiMH 423
Golston "7W" 2xRCR123 425
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 Med 18650 445
Uniquefire AA-S1 AA NiMH 565
Uniquefire S10 AA NiMH 575
Smallsun ZY-C85 full zoom 14500 581
Trustfire F22 AA NiMH 586
Lumapower MRV SE Medium 18650 630
Aurora SH-035 AA NiMH 644
Hugsby P32 High AA NiMH 650
Trustfire R5-A3 AA NiMH 650
Akoray K-103 10440 697
Romisen RC-C6 high wide RCR123 697
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5 AA NiMH 718
Aurora SH-033 RCR2 744
Solarforce L2R Solarforce low voltage R2 2xNiMH 779
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E Med 18650 800
Smallsun ZY-C85 14500 867
Solarforce Skyline 1 2 CR123 880
4Sevens Preon 2 High 2Alk. AAA 892
Aurora SH-035 High 14500 898
MX Power ML-310 High 14500 900
Ultrafire A30B RCR123 909
Trustfire Z1 High RCR123 919
Ultrafire WF-502B R2 single mode 18650 940
Trustfire XP-E F23 High 6* 10440 957
First batch Aurora SH-034 RCR123 1016
Akoray K-106 14500 1055
4Sevens Preon 2 High 2AAA NiMH 1074
Uniquefire S10 14500 1112
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 High 18650 1148
Trustfire F22 14500 1254
Uniquefire AA-S1 14500 1255
Ultrafire RL-118 RCR123 1260
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5 14500 1391
Fusion 36 dropin 3D NiMH 1399
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin 2 RCR123 1437
Lumahunter MRV SE High 18650 1462
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5 18650 1565
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin 18650 1578
Trustfire R5-A3 7* 14500 1630
Ultrafire WF-503B DX MC-E 18650 1636
ROP Low 6D NiMH 1670
Fusion 36 dropin 8* 6D NiCd 1937
Solarforce L2M DX P7 18650 1956
Ultrafire WF-500 9* 2 18650 2300
Ultrafire Wf-504B KD MC-E 18650 2310
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E High 18650 2400
Aurora AK-P7 High 18650 2420
Ultrafire WF-501B M bin MC-E 18650 3240
ROP High 2x32600 3760
Varapower prototype 4C NiMH 8650

* - An ancient alkaline. Will restest with a brand new one. The cell in there is at least 3 years old.

** - battery on light meter gave out. Will redo the test.

*** - Pulled off keyring to test. Needs to be retested with a fresh cell. I think it is the same one the light came with.

**** - Pulled out of office desk drawer. There's a theme here - I think I need to buy a big box of AAA alkalines.

***** - At some point I will go through the multiplicity of modes this one has. Don't hold your breath.

6* - I'd not trust the two minute reading too much - I was using protected 10440s and the protection kept kicking in - need to test this with a good unprotected 10440.

7* - This still feels too high to me - I guess around 280

8* - Need to do this with the 8,000mAh NiMH Ds which seem to have lower internal resistance.

9* - This one is usually said to be around 350-370 lumens but that may just be that the cells in it were at 4.2V

There are several lights in here to be retested. Must get around to building balancing harnesses so I can charge more lithium cells at a time. That way I can pull cells from the charger and guarantee uniform performance unless I have a dud cell. See my comments on the R5-A3 for the startling effects a dud cell can cause.

Will promote this table to the first post once I've filled it out a bit.

Light Battery Lightbox Immediate Lightbox 30 seconds
Fenix E0 * Alk. AAA 12 12
4Sevens Preon 2 Low 2AAA NiMH 18 18
4Sevens Preon 2 Low 2Alk. AAA 18 18
Fenix P3D Low 2xCR123 30 30
Trustfire XP-E F23 Low ** AAA NiMH 33 34
Maglite Solitaire w. Lambda LED Alk AAA 34 33
Aurora SH-035 Low 14500 36 36
Fenix E01 AAA 37 33
Ultrafire A1 Low RCR123 45 45
Powerlight 1 AA NiMH 64 64
MDXL "3W" AA NiMH 69 72
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5 Low 18650 73 73
TiKey 3xLR44 81 71
Trustfire Z1 low RCR123 87 90
Trustfire XP-E F23 Low 10440 90 88
Romisen RC-C6 Low Zoom RCR123 95 97
Lumapower MRV SE Low 18650 110 110
BLF DeLight 1 AA NiMH 135 144
Aurora SH0031 Alk. AAA 142 99
Ultra-budget C3 clone 2xNiMH 144 111
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5 Med 18650 144 143
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 Low 18650 155 155
Romisen RC-C6 Low wide RCR123 181 189
4Sevens Preon 2 Med 2AAA NiMH 187 182
Akoray K-106 AA NiMH 189 198
4Sevens Preon 2 Med 2Alk. AAA 195 188
Fenix P3D Medium 2xCR123 197 198
Ultraqfire WF-602C 10440 210 190
Hugsby P32 Low AA NiMH 214 199
Mrlite Lipstick AAA NiMH 214 201
MX Power ML-310 Low 14500 216 211
Tank007 TK-703 Alk. AAA 237 181
Aurora AK-P7 Low 18650 266 269
Aurora SH-035 Med 14500 269 266
Ultrafire A1 Medium RCR123 274 272
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E Low 18650 282 286
Tank007 E07 (2) AA NiMH 310 385
Romisen RC-C6 High Zoom RCR123 333 335
Trustfire XP-E F23 High AAA NiMH 383 334
Tank007 E07 (1) AA NiMH 423 372
Golston "7W" 2xRCR123 425 327
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 Med 18650 445 442
Fenix P3D High 2xCR123 469 462
Uniquefire AA-S1 AA NiMH 565 557
Uniquefire S10 AA NiMH 575
Smallsun ZY-C85 full zoom 14500 581 542
Trustfire F22 AA NiMH 586
Lumapower MRV SE Medium 18650 630 634
Aurora SH-035 AA NiMH 644
Hugsby P32 High AA NiMH 650 597
Trustfire R5-A3 AA NiMH 650
Akoray K-103 10440 697 681
Romisen RC-C6 high wide RCR123 697 732
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5 AA NiMH 718
Aurora SH-033 RCR2 744
Solarforce L2R Solarforce low voltage R2 2xNiMH 779
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E Med 18650 800 816
Ultrafire A1 High RCR123 813 771
Smallsun ZY-C85 14500 867 766
Solarforce Skyline 1 2 CR123 880
4Sevens Preon 2 High 2Alk. AAA 892 823
Fenix P3D Turbo 2xCR123 894 858
Aurora SH-035 High 14500 898 856
MX Power ML-310 High 14500 900 798
Romisen RC-F4 2xRCR123 901 731
Ultrafire A30B RCR123 909
Trustfire Z1 High RCR123 919 875
Ultrafire WF-502B R2 single mode 18650 940
Trustfire XP-E F23 High 10440 957 785
a first batch Aurora SH-034 RCR123 1016
Akoray K-106 14500 1055 1019
4Sevens Preon 2 High 2AAA NiMH 1074 944
Uniquefire S10 14500 1112 1017
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 High 18650 1148 1092
Trustfire F22 14500 1254 1128
Uniquefire AA-S1 14500 1255 1183
Ultrafire RL-118 RCR123 1260
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5 14500 1391 1259
Fusion 36 dropin 3D NiMH 1399 1382
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin 2 RCR123 1437
Lumahunter MRV SE High 18650 1462 1380
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5 High 2 IMR16340 1477 1320
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin 18650 1578
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5 High 18650 1599 1409
Trustfire R5-A3 14500 1630 1482
Ultrafire WF-503B DX MC-E 18650 1636
ROP Low 6D NiMH 1670 1568
Fusion 36 dropin 6D NiCd 1937 1868
Solarforce L2M DX P7 18650 1956
Ultrafire WF-500 2 18650 2300 2040
Ultrafire Wf-504B KD MC-E 18650 2310
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E High 18650 2400 2280
Aurora AK-P7 High 18650 2420 2140
Ultrafire WF-501B M bin MC-E 18650 3240 2990
ROP High 2x32600 3760 3600
Varapower prototype 4C NiMH 8650 8330

This is now up to 59 different lights, and quite a few more to come. I'll focus on filling out the gaps I think before adding many more lights. This table also needs current draw and throw numbers (Which will be very tedious to do but will get done in due course). I'm not keen on putting in full specifications as it'd get too unwieldy but with hyperlinking something may be sorted. Wading through the morass of HTML that is a table is no fun at all though. Ultimately, temperature and runtime data and links to standardised beamshots would come in handy. Sadly, i have a day job so this lot is going to take some considerable time or never get done. Meanwhile, here are some numbers. If anyone wants the spreadsheet from which this is generated, PM me with an email address and I'll email it.

Sorted by light

Light Battery Lightbox Immediate Lightbox 30 seconds
4Sevens Preon 2 High 2Alk. AAA 892 823
4Sevens Preon 2 High 2AAA NiMH 1074 944
4Sevens Preon 2 Low 2AAA NiMH 18 18
4Sevens Preon 2 Low 2Alk. AAA 18 18
4Sevens Preon 2 Med 2AAA NiMH 187 182
4Sevens Preon 2 Med 2Alk. AAA 195 188
a first batch Aurora SH-034 RCR123 1016
Akoray K-103 10440 697 681
Akoray K-106 AA NiMH 189 198
Akoray K-106 14500 1055 1019
Aurora AK-P7 High 18650 2420 2140
Aurora AK-P7 Low 18650 266 269
Aurora SH-033 RCR2 744
Aurora SH-035 AA NiMH 644
Aurora SH-035 High 14500 898 856
Aurora SH-035 Low 14500 36 36
Aurora SH-035 Med 14500 269 266
Aurora SH0031 Alk. AAA 142 99
BLF DeLight 1 AA NiMH 135 144
Elektrolumens triple K2 4C NiMH 1351 1284
Elektrolumens triple K2 Old cells 4C NiMH 679 452
Fenix E0 AAA NiMH 20 20
Fenix E0 * Alk. AAA 12 12
Fenix E01 AAA NiMH 31 31
Fenix E01 Alk. AAA 37 33
Fenix P3D High 2xCR123 469 462
Fenix P3D Low 2xCR123 30 30
Fenix P3D Medium 2xCR123 197 198
Fenix P3D Turbo 2xCR123 894 858
Fusion 36 dropin 3D NiMH 1399 1382
Fusion 36 dropin 6D NiCd 1937 1868
Golston "7W" 2xRCR123 425 327
Hugsby P31 with P32 Gold driver 14500 1176 1084
Hugsby P32 High Li Primary 527 472
Hugsby P32 High AA NiMH 650 597
Hugsby P32 Low Li Primary 201 197
Hugsby P32 Low AA NiMH 214 199
Lumahunter MRV SE High 18650 1462 1380
Lumapower MRV SE Low 18650 110 110
Lumapower MRV SE Medium 18650 630 634
Maglite Solitaire w. Lambda LED Alk AAA 34 33
MDXL "3W" AA NiMH 69 72
Mrlite Lipstick AAA NiMH 214 201
MX Power ML-310 High 14500 900 798
MX Power ML-310 Low 14500 216 211
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E High 18650 2400 2280
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E Low 18650 282 286
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E Med 18650 800 816
Powerlight 1 AA NiMH 64 64
Romisen RC-C6 high wide RCR123 697 732
Romisen RC-C6 High Zoom RCR123 333 335
Romisen RC-C6 Low wide RCR123 181 189
Romisen RC-C6 Low Zoom RCR123 95 97
Romisen RC-F4 2xRCR123 901 731
Romisen RC-T5 High 2 18650 2490 2290
Romisen RC-T5 Low 2 18650 990 989
Romisen RC-T6 High 2 18650 3760 3620
Romisen RC-T6 Low 2 18650 1615 1535
Romisen RC-T6 Medium 2 18650 2490 2390
ROP High 2x32600 3760 3600
ROP Low 6D NiMH 1670 1568
Smallsun ZY-C85 14500 867 766
Smallsun ZY-C85 full zoom 14500 581 542
Solarforce L2M DX P7 18650 1956
Solarforce L2R Solarforce low voltage R2 2xNiMH 779
Solarforce Skyline 1 2 CR123 880
Tank007 E07 (1) AA NiMH 423 372
Tank007 E07 (2) AA NiMH 310 385
Tank007 TK-703 Alk. AAA 237 181
Tank007 TK-703 AAA NiMH 445 395
TiKey 3xLR44 81 71
Trustfire F22 AA NiMH 586
Trustfire F22 14500 1254 1128
Trustfire R5-A3 AA NiMH 650
Trustfire R5-A3 14500 1630 1482
Trustfire XP-E F23 High AAA NiMH 383 334
Trustfire XP-E F23 High 10440 957 785
Trustfire XP-E F23 Low 10440 90 88
Trustfire XP-E F23 Low ** AAA NiMH 33 34
Trustfire Z1 High RCR123 919 875
Trustfire Z1 low RCR123 87 90
Ultra-budget C3 clone 2xNiMH 144 111
Ultrafire A1 High RCR123 813 771
Ultrafire A1 Low RCR123 45 45
Ultrafire A1 Medium RCR123 274 272
Ultrafire A30B RCR123 909
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5 AA NiMH 718
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5 14500 1391 1259
Ultrafire RL-118 RCR123 1260
Ultrafire WF-500 2 18650 2300 2040
Ultrafire WF-501B M bin MC-E 18650 3240 2990
Ultrafire WF-502B R2 single mode 18650 940
Ultrafire WF-503B DX MC-E High 18650 1508 1407
Ultrafire WF-503B DX MC-E Low 18650 540 550
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 High 18650 1148 1092
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 Low 18650 155 155
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 Med 18650 445 442
Ultrafire WF-504B KD MC-E High 18650 2400 2360
Ultrafire WF-504B KD MC-E Low 18650 75 75
Ultrafire WF-504B KD MC-E Med 18650 1819 1733
Ultrafire WF-602C 10440 210 190
Uniquefire AA-S1 AA NiMH 565 557
Uniquefire AA-S1 14500 1255 1183
Uniquefire AA-S1 Li Primary 502 446
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin 2 RCR123 1437
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin 18650 1578
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5 High 2 IMR16340 1477 1320
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5 High 18650 1599 1409
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5 Low 18650 73 73
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5 Med 18650 144 143
Uniquefire S10 AA NiMH 575
Uniquefire S10 14500 1112 1017
Varapower prototype 4C NiMH 8650 8330

Sorted by output

Light Battery Lightbox Immediate Lightbox 30 seconds
Fenix E0 * Alk. AAA 12 12
4Sevens Preon 2 Low 2AAA NiMH 18 18
4Sevens Preon 2 Low 2Alk. AAA 18 18
Fenix E0 AAA NiMH 20 20
Fenix P3D Low 2xCR123 30 30
Fenix E01 AAA NiMH 31 31
Trustfire XP-E F23 Low ** AAA NiMH 33 34
Maglite Solitaire w. Lambda LED Alk AAA 34 33
Aurora SH-035 Low 14500 36 36
Fenix E01 Alk. AAA 37 33
Ultrafire A1 Low RCR123 45 45
Powerlight 1 AA NiMH 64 64
MDXL "3W" AA NiMH 69 72
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5 Low 18650 73 73
Ultrafire WF-504B KD MC-E Low 18650 75 75
TiKey 3xLR44 81 71
Trustfire Z1 low RCR123 87 90
Trustfire XP-E F23 Low 10440 90 88
Romisen RC-C6 Low Zoom RCR123 95 97
Lumapower MRV SE Low 18650 110 110
BLF DeLight 1 AA NiMH 135 144
Aurora SH0031 Alk. AAA 142 99
Ultra-budget C3 clone 2xNiMH 144 111
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5 Med 18650 144 143
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 Low 18650 155 155
Romisen RC-C6 Low wide RCR123 181 189
4Sevens Preon 2 Med 2AAA NiMH 187 182
Akoray K-106 AA NiMH 189 198
4Sevens Preon 2 Med 2Alk. AAA 195 188
Fenix P3D Medium 2xCR123 197 198
Hugsby P32 Low Li Primary 201 197
Ultrafire WF-602C 10440 210 190
Hugsby P32 Low AA NiMH 214 199
Mrlite Lipstick AAA NiMH 214 201
MX Power ML-310 Low 14500 216 211
Tank007 TK-703 Alk. AAA 237 181
Aurora AK-P7 Low 18650 266 269
Aurora SH-035 Med 14500 269 266
Ultrafire A1 Medium RCR123 274 272
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E Low 18650 282 286
Tank007 E07 (2) AA NiMH 310 385
Romisen RC-C6 High Zoom RCR123 333 335
Trustfire XP-E F23 High AAA NiMH 383 334
Tank007 E07 (1) AA NiMH 423 372
Golston "7W" 2xRCR123 425 327
Tank007 TK-703 AAA NiMH 445 395
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 Med 18650 445 442
Fenix P3D High 2xCR123 469 462
Uniquefire AA-S1 Li Primary 502 446
Hugsby P32 High Li Primary 527 472
Ultrafire WF-503B DX MC-E Low 18650 540 550
Uniquefire AA-S1 AA NiMH 565 557
Uniquefire S10 AA NiMH 575
Smallsun ZY-C85 full zoom 14500 581 542
Trustfire F22 AA NiMH 586
Lumapower MRV SE Medium 18650 630 634
Aurora SH-035 AA NiMH 644
Hugsby P32 High AA NiMH 650 597
Trustfire R5-A3 AA NiMH 650
Elektrolumens triple K2 Old cells 4C NiMH 679 452
Akoray K-103 10440 697 681
Romisen RC-C6 high wide RCR123 697 732
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5 AA NiMH 718
Aurora SH-033 RCR2 744
Solarforce L2R Solarforce low voltage R2 2xNiMH 779
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E Med 18650 800 816
Ultrafire A1 High RCR123 813 771
Smallsun ZY-C85 14500 867 766
Solarforce Skyline 1 2 CR123 880
4Sevens Preon 2 High 2Alk. AAA 892 823
Fenix P3D Turbo 2xCR123 894 858
Aurora SH-035 High 14500 898 856
MX Power ML-310 High 14500 900 798
Romisen RC-F4 2xRCR123 901 731
Ultrafire A30B RCR123 909
Trustfire Z1 High RCR123 919 875
Ultrafire WF-502B R2 single mode 18650 940
Trustfire XP-E F23 High 10440 957 785
Romisen RC-T5 Low 2 18650 990 989
a first batch Aurora SH-034 RCR123 1016
Akoray K-106 14500 1055 1019
4Sevens Preon 2 High 2AAA NiMH 1074 944
Uniquefire S10 14500 1112 1017
Ultrafire WF-504B - 5 mode R2 High 18650 1148 1092
Hugsby P31 with P32 Gold driver 14500 1176 1084
Trustfire F22 14500 1254 1128
Uniquefire AA-S1 14500 1255 1183
Ultrafire RL-118 RCR123 1260
Elektrolumens triple K2 4C NiMH 1351 1284
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5 14500 1391 1259
Fusion 36 dropin 3D NiMH 1399 1382
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin 2 RCR123 1437
Lumahunter MRV SE High 18650 1462 1380
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5 High 2 IMR16340 1477 1320
Ultrafire WF-503B DX MC-E High 18650 1508 1407
Uniquefire L2 w DX 5 mode R5 dropin 18650 1578
Uniquefire R5 5 mode XP-G R5 High 18650 1599 1409
Romisen RC-T6 Low 2 18650 1615 1535
Trustfire R5-A3 14500 1630 1482
ROP Low 6D NiMH 1670 1568
Ultrafire WF-504B KD MC-E Med 18650 1819 1733
Fusion 36 dropin 6D NiCd 1937 1868
Solarforce L2M DX P7 18650 1956
Ultrafire WF-500 2 18650 2300 2040
Piritlight SG-L8 MC-E High 18650 2400 2280
Ultrafire WF-504B KD MC-E High 18650 2400 2360
Aurora AK-P7 High 18650 2420 2140
Romisen RC-T5 High 2 18650 2490 2290
Romisen RC-T6 Medium 2 18650 2490 2390
Ultrafire WF-501B M bin MC-E 18650 3240 2990
Romisen RC-T6 High 2 18650 3760 3620
ROP High 2x32600 3760 3600
Varapower prototype 4C NiMH 8650 8330

Wow. You're just great. I think this is the most exhaustive flashlight numbers comparison ever :)

As for the source doc, don't bother - it took me 10 seconds to create a spreadsheet out of your table

Simply amazing Don!

At least of affordable ones - I spent several hours last night wading through 39 pages of the CPF equivalent to get some reasonably accurate data points. There is almost a complete lack of overlap. Two dropins and about 3 lights.

I use your list a lot. Good work!

With your permission I make my own spreadsheet very easy by marking the whole list

here, then open my Excel and copy it into a new sheet. Then I format the cells to the

height and width of my liking.

Hi Don

On your review on the Uniquefire S10 on Jayki.com you state in one of the comments

that the S10 is brighter than the S1.

In the above table its the other way round. Please, could you explain this difference, thanks.

On NiMH it is. Just. I've remeasured most of them and the measurements are the best I can get just now. My earlier measurements were done with whatever cell happened to be handy. Now they are measured with cells fresh from the charger (Ultrafire WF-139 for lithiums, Vanson BC1-HU 24hr after the light turns green for NiMH) and freshly charged cells for each measurement. I really ought to record the voltage as well.

Here are the current measurements - the S10 still has to be remeasured on NiMH. These are lux measurements at switch-on, 30 seconds and two minutes.

Uniquefire AA-S1 Li Primary 502
Uniquefire AA-S1 AA NiMH 565
Uniquefire AA-S1 14500 1255
Uniquefire S10 AA NiMH 575
Uniquefire S10 14500 1112