The BLF Get-in-Shape Thread: (formerly, "A Newer, Thinner Rusty" Thread)....

Follow my plan exactly as I laid it out, but NO working out or exercise beyond light walking. So many people can't lose because of that since the weight on the body and around the internal organs creates stress, which creates cortisol = more fat is created than lost. Just basic mobility is good enough. Follow my plan, but give yourself time to get to a healthy weight because exercise and calorie restriction don't mix well.

Going to somewhat disagree with you there. While there are better and worse ways to go about it, weight loss or weight gain comes down to caloric consumption, and the amount of energy expended. Burn more calories than you take in and you lose weight.

There is variation on how efficient one person's body is vs another in doing something, and how many calories are burned, and variation on basal/resting metabolic rate, (fit runner will burn far fewer calories running vs someone just starting out, someone with more muscle mass burns more vs someone with more fat, etc,.) but ultimately it's a fairly straight forward process.

OMAD is great, but it's not for everyone, and it also works on the same basic principle. Any approach that results in fewer calories being consumed than expended will work over time though, without exception.

We don't disagree that calories-in/calories-out is at the heart of the issue, or that there are other ways to lose weight. The problem becomes that, at a calorie deficit, when one taxes the body heavily while at this deficit, this creates cortisol since fat is stored around the internal organs, and thus, puts greater stress on all bodily systems. This higher level of stress creates shock, which causes the body to "freak the hell out," for lack of a better phrase.

Go to MFP and read just how many people post threads with titles like: "Help! Exercising and eating right, but not losing weight!" It's a daily thing and I can always predict why--and it has nothing to do with finding the right exercise plan or diet plan, as though certain body-types need different plans (utter nonsense, btw). It has to do with eliminating the exercise = problem solved. So many people follow the bad advice of lifting and getting into cross-fit this or strength-train x plan that while being on a mere 1,200 calories a day. That is folly, friend.

Once someone gets to a healthier weight, they can up the calories somewhat and add in exercise, but gaining and losing are at different extremes and doing both is super-slow and very hard. Every time people cut down their activity levels and let a calorie deficit work, they experience results. But it amazes me how surprised they are that I'm right when I say that and they experience it for themselves.

Another thought - and what makes dieting painful for so many - is that there are so many competing voices out there. A given body might do better or worse on any given plan because lifestyle habits and preferences make certain things more efficient than others.

But going back to what was said about stress on the body, the issue of bodies being taxed heavily gets back to HOW stressful an activity is on the body. An obese person trying to run is so very stressful as to be considered impossible in most cases. If a person can run for a few feet before collapsing in exhaustion, then that is not a viable option for them to work out with, even if it draws lots of calories. Walking, on the other hand, will draw fewer calories, but will be more sustainable, thus allowing for weight loss and a standard calorie drain increase.

But no activity can prove too damaging or stressful to the body and be beneficial; that is my point. I can run for a long time and at a good speed, which makes it a great exercise for both toning, strengthening, and losing weight. Just goes to illustrate, on any level, how - depending on one's overall fitness and metabolism - that one must go about mastering themselves. In this regard, fitness certainly isn't a "one size fits all" deal.

The Dr’s have checked my insulin pump and found Iam eating between 1850-2000 calories per day but the insulin partially attributes to the weight gain and the large amounts of prescription opiates and running will be out of my future due to knee replacement and possible shattering the bone so I have been doing elliptical and bycicle but too many people trying to hell can be overwhelming.

Going to somewhat disagree again :p

Moderate exercise - which is different for everyone based on their own fitness level - is not a bad thing, even with calorie restriction.

Diet alone works, just too slowly to be enough of a motivator for most, and I think that's why so many people quit.

By the numbers;

  • 1lb of fat = ~3700 stored calories. This number is somewhat in dispute, with the range being between 2800-3800. I prefer to go with the higher one because that way even if I'm wrong, I won't be disappointed.
  • Typical basal metabolic rate will be 2200 for men. (There are lots of calculators out there to get an approximate number, again I personally err on the side of caution, and go with the one that says I have a lower metabolic rate.)
  • Most calorie restriction diets suggest not going below 1200 calories for men.
  • Actually limiting yourself to 1200 calories per day or lower is hard, really hard, but it's much easier to stay at around 1500-1800 which allows for one small meal, one moderate meal, and a bit of snacking. (At least that's my own personal experience, ymmv.)
  • 300-500 calorie deficit is created per day. Let's say 400.
  • 3700/400 = 9.25. Nine to ten days to lose one freaking pound! About three pounds per month.
  • 35-40lb per year.

Now good luck to anyone trying to stay motivated at that pace, seeing such slow results. Even if change is taking place it's going to be very hard to see it on the scale, or on the belt.

Add in even moderate exercise, say an hour on treadmill walking, and that calorie deficit can double, or even triple. It also means that the diet can be a bit more lax, which reduces stress.

Btw, between 50lb and 60lb down in six months. I'm at around 250lb now, and plan to be at around 200 by summer :D

Good luck to you, and actually, biking is fantastic for burning calories. It's by far one of the best low impact, high intensity exercise options.

What others members ha e been through and succeeding is a huge motivation for me, BTW I am going to be getting gastric sleeve which cuts the stomach in half length wise and will be a Le to be done by the scope a d is the least evasive of the three procedures.Now I need to start saving up mods for me to due during my recoupe time!

Now drop the calories down to 1,300 and drop out all but very, very light activity and you'll start to see some really good progress, bud.

After lots of delays (my surgery was originally supposed to have been in November) Iam having my bariatric surgery on Thursday ,now Iam getting pre-op jitters

That's quite understandable. Fortunately, the procedure is been done lot and has had time to mature. Wishing you a fast recovery and great success on your pending weight loss.

I saw the huge difference it has made for Rusty and a few other members,a lifestyle change,and protein shakes ,vitamins for 3months plus and then maybe only one tiny meal a day no more snacks Or sugar monsters

It would be weird if you didn't have jitters before a major life altering surgery. I've been a wuss about getting eye surgery for about five years now, and still can't bring myself to do it. Fortunately it is a mature procedure at this point, especially here in the US.

Unfortunately there is no single plan or approach for everybody... OMAD just doesn't work for me, but monitoring calories, eating eating healthier, and just making sure you expend just as much energy or more than you take in, does.

No progress to report... took a three week vacation over new years and to be honest I pigged out quite a bit. Can't even imagine how many thousands of calories I consumed from alcohol alone. Surprisingly little damage though, only gained 1-2lb and I hope to get those off by the end of the month. Goal is to hit 200-210lb by July 4th... 50-60lb down, 42lb to go. I'd love to do a full 100lb in one year, but I don't know if I can pull that off.

Here's two pictures almost exactly one year apart, the first in a cenote in mexico, the second at a cliff from that movie The Beach.

Good luck, Light Junkie. Keep us updated.

I ask because have to have everything from laser surgery,cataract lens replacement and a complete right eye vitarectomy all due to uncontrolled type 1 diabetes
Oh thanks Rusty how are doing these days and your weight?

Well, I might as well come out with it: A book is officially in the works. Release date will be the beginning anniversary - June 1st, 2015 (began on this date in 2013). In fact, I'm half done with it. It will be a very short how-to and autobiography on the progress, experiences, and overall knowledge I've acquired on this journey. I put it off, but have been hounded into getting it out there. A domain has already been purchased since, well, again, I've been bombarded about it! lol

197.8 lbs this morning. Standing barbell curls went up 10 lbs. I love my strength training regimen, although it is quite simple. Getting leaner and harder. Working on muscular stamina. Feels good to push the body. I need to get my mile time down back under 10-minutes though. It's a 2015 endeavor!

Just basic lasik, but complicated somewhat due to astigmatism. My vision kept changing rapidly from roughly the time I was 10 to about 25. Last few years it has changed but by a much smaller degree, slight change in astigmatism, and .25 in both eyes over the past two years. My doc told me I'm a good candidate for it, and that it could mean eliminating glasses and contacts at least for a while, and probably reducing the prescription very significantly in the future.

My eyes are very sensitive and dry though, which makes be worried about recovery. Finances are also an issue since insurance doesn't cover anything... basically I need to make some very tough choices in the future, with regards to skin reduction surgery, versus travel, versus lasik. I'm hoping that with some time, and lots of time at the gym I can avoid the skin reduction, but that's not likely.

Edit: Congrats Rusty! Hope you release it's released through amazon or audible... I have unused credits. 10 minute mile is not easy... I can walk 4-4.2mph comfortably now, but that's about it. Want to bring walking speed up to 5pmh.

Well done rusty, bit late i know but i haven’t long been on here.

Hit a similar bottom in that i was fed up with being big, so hit the gym hard.
In 13 months i went from 284 to 172.

But despite this i was skinny fat, i’d lost a load of mass so over the last 4.5 years i’ve been slowly building up, well it’s more recomp which btw takes forever.

Currently 215lb and getting leaner and bigger all the time, it’s rather comical and both sad at how i get treated, very few love it, a lot hate whilst others look on like holy shit it’s bigfoot!!! :bigsmile:

This was me around a couple months ago, doesn’t do it justive as my camera at the time sucked, got me a dslr now so no excuses for nest time lol

If you can get vpn access try watching this, i did the other day and loved it, and oddly the results that came about were the same as the diet im on.

Good job, Hux. You look good. Yep, the muscle build-back is progressing nicely (I have learned to be patient, lol) and I'm getting more flushed than at first. I'm too sore to workout today, but today is a foraging day nonetheless!

On your book!How did you deal with the naseua immediately after the surgery?That is my big concern I all ready have the e mend and zolfron but I don’t know how I will drink the rest of my meds .