Snobbish behavior

Off-topic Chatter
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On the negative comments made by some posters in regards to budget lights...

Human nature what it is people don't like it when they have paid $100 for a product in which you can get 90% of the performance at 10% or less the cost simular items pointed out to them. I would think this crosses boarders, it's not just a "*American" thing.
(No one like to look like a fool- You don't tell, or point out to the girl you're wanting to get "friends" (get lucky with) with that you just spent $100 for something you could have got for $10 or less...Telling her such will not endear her to you, you will NOT be having babies with her. Ditto on telling the wife...)

On some trying to discourge foreign sales. For persons who do not regularly ship overseas the cost of shipping from a monetary and time standpoint is most of the time more than the item is worth. Add to this rules and regulations differ from country to country when there HAS been a case of fraud, or attempted fraud that sellers are hesitaint to ship to certain countries.

(I've noticed on Ebay sellers not shipping to certain countries- I would assume they have looked at the "numbers' (Completed sales, vs how many times they've been ripped off, and or had problems with a transaction)

Is this fair if you live in XYZ banned country? On a personal level no, but on a business level it is.

Is is fair?

My insurance company charges me more than someone living 2 miles away due to "zip code"... They have looked at their claims and based their rates accordingly. Some areas are higher risk than others.

My local auto parts store used to have a store in a different zip code than "new" store... New store pricing is HIGHER by 15-20% on SAME parts from competior in old zip code just right down the road. Mgr told me price difference was due to them being in the "fancy" zip code (Where the rich people live... Like the rich people (have-to) change their own oil)...

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Hi there WeAreNotAlone, welcome to BLF! I'd say your assessment is pretty much accurate. Personally, I'm the first to mention a flaw in a budget light, but I'm also the first to remember (without regrets) how little I payed for it. 8)

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Moderation at CPF is really shit. I ended up getting banned over practically nothing. I work in the high tech industry (you know, the kind that's akin to, though higher end than the manufacture of LED emitters), and feel like I could contribute some decent knowledge at times, but I guess their policy is to ban first and ask questions later (what questions? exactly). They also delete posts because they don't like the message portrayed or just on a whim. Had I known this, I prolly wouldn't have bothered joining, and I don't suppose most smart people are prone to bowing to petty authority of that nature.

The egomania of the admin there is unreal. She actually believes it's her kingdom to rule along with her sychophants and an iron fist despite the fact that the value of any forum is in its membership.

Human nature what it is people don't like it when they have paid $100 for a product in which you can get 90% of the performance at 10% or less the cost simular items pointed out to them.

Another thing worth pointing out is that the "flashlight crowd" in the US often intersects with the jingoist survivalists or at least those with similar sentiments. You know, the kind who think jesus is coming and they need to stash up on ammo and "tactical" flashlights apparently to face the end times.

Anyway, off to collect the hound from her haircut. I may add that the haircut will cost about the same as my last 5 lights. Couldn't afford doggie haircuts and expensive lights.

Quality razorsharp blades are also very inexpensive from china.... just sayin'

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Yes, but that would rely on my having far greater manual skills than I do. The dog really does prefer her ears still to be attached to her once the haircut is done... :)

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You are quite right! No posts trying to defend CPF can change the reallity

The examples shown in this forum are only a small wave in a big ocean.

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For the above mentioned reasons that's why im glad i found this site. It's the one i like the most and without annoying ppl trying to make a point no1 even tried to ask about. And i hate also all those fanboy that reply on every can someone reccomend me XY with the same old long story about the only light they have even if it is clearly and totally not what the person asking wanted.

Like: Please reccomend me a durable single mode 1 AA for under 20$?

And they get: My XX 100$ 2x 18650 would be perfect for you, it has tons of light 1500 lumens and it is a great thrower you can't go wrong with it. also fits my pocket. made in USA (yeah right...) not the usual cheap...

This is maybe a bit exagerated but quite often happens to read junk like that.

I for one have only chinese made lights if i don't count an old mag lite solitaire which is nowaday useless cept for lighting a car keyhole perhaps. I find them extremely good for what you pay.

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Wellcome Budgeteer. Good to have you here.

The example you gave is not exagerated. It is exacly what happens all the time.

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You sure won't find BLF moderated in a heavy-handed fashion. Not to suggest that I hate rules, I'm OK with them - but the way CPF engages its members with hostility and contempt in their attempt to enforce the rules is just plain wrong.

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Thanks for the warm welcome.

I just recently found this hobby and i like it. I needed a bike light and here i am. :)

I was reading this forum for a little less than a month and decided to register when i found out that it has a nice & healthy community.

I hope to share my expertise/experience when it does mature enough.

Kind regards,

Budgeteer

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I created a thread over thread asking about what kind of materials are used for battery carriers, what would be the best way to repair them for some Costco_-_Tech Lite High-intensity CREE XPC L.E.D.100 lumens Tactical Flashlight, item_531804 (3pk)_$17.89 bought at Costco. Seems to me cracked battery carriers are a pretty common problem.... so someone should know what glues /procedures work. Out of 36+ lights only about 3 of the carriers are undamaged.

(Battery carrier backplate screws (3) were overtightened)

Checked the thread the other day and it's GONE. Clicked the contact Admin, you are rolled over to a page that says basicly "Don't Contact us, we hold all the cards and you are nothing." Have a e-mail to the Admin, but doubt I'll get a response or a explanation.

That's the feeling I get. If I was a advertiser I'd be livid.

This is the second (or third) time in this thread Anti-US/anti-gun comments have been interjected into the conversation. On gun comments while I wish we could live in a perfect world without weapons of any kind the facts are down thruout the ages when the military and Police forces of the ruling class has all the weapons, and the Civilian Population is not armed equally.... BAD things happen.

On your comment about Jesus coming, During the COLD-WAR there were two major players, (US and USSR/RUSSIA) that had weapons of mass destruction. With the break-up of the USSR the control (and components) of those weapons are in the hands of MANY. Addtionally there are TONS of Nuclear material the USSR lost track of that could be used to build dirty bombs.

Military grade nuke=Hard to build (costly), Radation levels quickly disapate.

Junk-Nuke, AKA Dirty bomb=Easy to build, residual radiation levels remain high over a very long period of time.

With the way the world is today anything can happen so being prepared is a good thing.

Q: In most countries these days:

A: Just in time scheduling is done. Grocey stores for example only stock at best 72hrs worth of food. If the production OR transport of food is delayed anywhere from production to the store..... there will be no food.

(Ditto this for manufacturing, Parts are obtained as needed... if there is ANY delay there are shortages.)

Q: Everything is computerized. A single high altitude EMP bast would cause allot of damage. I won't go into details but read above with the mindset that distribution of fuel is affected.

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I'm also one of those in the US with a stash of ammo, flashlights and food. Tongue out But I also don't beat anyone over the head with my beliefs, nationalist or otherwise. I just have a good time trying out new flashlights and talking about them.

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This is the second (or third) time in this thread Anti-US/anti-gun comments have been interjected into the conversation. On gun comments while I wish we could live in a perfect world without weapons of any kind the facts are down thruout the ages when the military and Police forces of the ruling class has all the weapons, and the Civilian Population is not armed equally.... BAD things happen.

I'm not passing judgement. It's a free country and people can do as they please. I'm just pointing out why there's a certain bias towards patriotism or whatever at CPF. IMO it's a bit silly, but hey I'm a grown man playing with flashlights. :)

Junk-Nuke, AKA Dirty bomb=Easy to build, Radation levels remain high over a very long period of time.

I won't go into the details of why this isn't true to avoid derailing the thread, but you should research a bit into the actual background levels achievable with a non-fissile radiation bomb. The short of it is that the material get spread too thin to do anything. There's hardly any reason to make one other than the "fear/wow" factor, especially given the difficulty in obtaining the substances that sound impressive.

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I don't think it's patriotism, I think it's more A: Of a case those people have more money than common sense., B: The board and some posters have a finiancal interest in moving higher priced product.

Typo in previous post, edited

Is this better? , Junk-Nuke, AKA Dirty bomb=Easy to build, residual radiation levels remain high over a very long period of time.

The point I was trying to make (that everyone should be concerned about) is there are people that right now that are out there that wish to cause death, destruction on a mass scale. During the COLD-WAR we had two nations that had nuclear weapons with tight controls and failsafes, with the break-up of the USSR the control of material is not tightly controled and there are TONS of nuclear material missing.

We can debate how effective the devices would be but let me ask you this:

You're at a sporting event and there is a report of a device in the area, Better yet there is a debris cloud heading your way.... What are YOUR chances of getting out of the stadium alive?

Do you have enough food to survive for a extended period of time? Would you bet your life on the distrubution channels working properly?

Dirty bomb or true mil spec device I'm sure we could agree that would be a bad day for alot of people, and would cause a financial burden on the area. I'm sure we could also agree that any disruption in distrubution channels would also cause alot of problems.

The point to all of this is those that make fun of those that prepare should think things thru before making fun of them. The world is a dangerous place right now.

Given the choice, I'd rather have a 1-year food /fuel suppply in place than relying on the distrubution channels to function properly after any such type of events. Addtionally I'd rather be surrounded by like minded people that have prepared and have a food/fuel supply than the Golden Hordes of persons who only have a day or two's worth of food and fuel.

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While not causing the damage a military nuke does as there is no nuclear explosion, there would be loss of life, along with a bill for the clean-up of the aftermath.

No, the point is that the background radiation is very low level, too low to do any damage at all. "Nukes" only really work through fission, which is kind of the point ("nuclear reaction" and all). There've been a few studies done to analyze, say, the effects on ground water, etc, just in case, and the conclusion is that it's about as terrible of a weapon as can be built. The most lethal part about it would be the traditional explosive need to detonate/disperse it.

It would likely be effective as a "terror" tactic (as clearly evident here), but that's another OT.

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I know what your point is, I'm in agreement with you. The problem arises when you are surrounded by 100,000 people and a debris cloud is headed your way. Word has gotten out your area has been hit or is a target.

Either way it's better to lay in supplies to carry you over during such events.

I'd much rather be surrounded by survivalist types than the Golden Hordes of persons who only have a day or two's worth of food and fuel.

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Getting back on topic (My apologies to the OP)

I created a thread over at CandlePowerForums http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=287119 asking about what kind of materials are used for battery carriers, what would be the best way to repair them ...

Still haven't heard from the Admin, and the tone of the page you have to read thru before contacting a admin was very condescending.

Sort of reminds me of how those that rule act when their miltary, police and special Security Forces are armed to the teeth, and they have disarmed you. They do as they please, when they please.

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I do not post over at CPF because of the heavy handed and sometimes inconsequential moderation practices. I've also had a few accounts with zero posts in them for reading the restricted forums just vanish without explanation.

I like this OT tangent you guys wandered off on. Disaster preparedness is, IMO, a good thing though I'd worry more about the next big storm than a dirty bomb or suitcase nuke.

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+1 ,

On the accounts with ZERO posts that vanish.... I think most forums delete inactive accounts...

I hated to take the thread OT, that said there are MANY reasons to be prepared.

PS: There are quite a few Russian suitcase nukes out there that have "disappeared". When the Cold-war ended there were alot of materials that came up "missing".... At that time period you could buy anything you wanted direct from the base because those in charge of the materials were not receiving their checks, and they had to feed their families. For those that doubt this:

Q: You are in charge of (or have access to) xyz materials, and you have to feed your family... You haven't gotten a paycheck for 3-6 months, but you have all this "stuff" laying around at the now defunct base.... What do you do? Take the high ground and your family starves and or freezes to death, OR sell the stuff off to the highest bidder?

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3. What if you lose both electricity and gas?

4. Would you be willing to rely on batteries and candles for illumination if a major power outage lasted more than a week?

5. Do you have extra tanks of potable water should public water supplies be cut off or contaminated? Would you know how to collect and filter your own water if none was available for a long time?

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Ironically, the threat of the "dirty bomb" as a psychological weapon is more the fault of 24hr "concern trolling" networks like Fox News and some others than of any terrorists themselves.