Cree XHP70 up to 4022 Lumens and XHP50 up to 2546 lumens - Multi-die leds.

4x XPG2’s squished up together?

No, they did more than just vary on existing designs, i.e. there's no bond wires in sight (on the limited images at least)

I like the pricing of the XHP50, $6.31 at Mouser.

might be glad i’ve held off on upgrading that lowe’s lux pro.

so all that’s left is to figure out how to drive the XHP70?

i’m not averse to a driverless DD option, if you have a suggestion.

..and wait for a board that it fits on, 7x7mm is between the XM-L and MT-G footprint.

I wonder what if we drive the XHP70 LED at 9 A like we do to the MT-G2 J) how much lumens we can get ?

If it behaves well up to 9A, and on a copper board, my rough extrapolation leads to about 6500 lumen.

Hey, there's 5000K 90CRI versions in the datasheets of the XHP50/70 ! :-)

That is like,, old news...

Just kidding.. Its awesome. These emitters will probably be used in many lights next year. I already have some plans.

2.25 hours old news, I see it now. note to self: read RaceR's posts more carefully :-)

" At its maximum current, the XHP70 LED delivers twice the light output of the industry’s brightest single-die LED, the XLamp MK-R LED, at a similar lumens per watt and without increasing the package footprint"

Lie nr1:mk-r isn't single die led

Lie nr2:even if mk-r were single-die,luminus cbt-140 is still brighter

Typical CREE marketing.

Anyway,it looks like xhp50 is 4x XP-G2 and xhp70 is 4x XM-L2 die.

Hopefully the beam pattern isn’t too bad. :slight_smile:

Hopefully the new single die LED 5x5 , 7x7 will coming out soon :wink:

So, the XHP50 6 Volt will go right on an XM-L star, what will the XHP70 fit?

and where the hell do I get some?

just give me some XHP70 :smiley: and i will do what ever it needs DIRECT TO PILL

Hank Wang SAVE US i want to find it on your shop by tomorrow J)

I smell changing in the wind

It looks like the 6 Volt version will work on an XM-L star. But there are tiny differences. On top of that (as you probably know) XHP50 and XHP70 LED`s can also be configured to12 volt depending on their connection/star.

Mouser for those who are lucky enough to have cheap shipping and are happy with their current selection. Im waiting for Hank to stock these. Preferably with some really high CRI.

Question is, why weren't these in stock yesterday along with suitable Noctigons??! Getting impatient here.. :p

The XHP70 on Mouser says it is 1590lm and price for one is $16.85 plus shipping. I think it would be wise to wait for a better deal.

1590lm @ 1050mA. The emitter (in 12V configuration, which is what its binned at) is (officially) capable of 2400mA. So 1590lm is far from what its capable off. That deal will give you more output compared to an MT-G2.

The emitter Mouser have in stock is not the top bin though. Problem with Mouser is that they are not very specific on tints.

These are floody emitters. Give me NW, high CRI and then top bin for that combination. :) please...

Okay, had to dig a little. The one at Mouser is apparently a N2 bin. That’s the third highest bin, so not bad. They say it’s binned at 85C, so at that temp, and with 2.4A going to it, it is rated at 3040lm max with 12.73 Vf. I guess it’s okay for what it is, but still pricey! :wink:

Okay for what it is? Like in the same way a base model Porsche Cayman is okay for what it is? :)

That N2 binned XHP70 from Mouser is officially capable of a 1000 more lumen compared to the top binned MT-G2 which cost about the same. Or if you can get it in top bin and want CW, 1500 lumen more compared to an MT-G2. That is getting closer to twice the output of an MT-G2. For pretty much the same price! And if these are capable of the same levels over "overdriving"... They are gonna be BRIGHT.

And more importantly, XHP70 is capable of higher CRI numbers compared to the MT-G2. And its got the potential to be more versatile in terms of voltage/wiring/drivers.

In terms of output the XHP70 is a large step up from an MT-G2. The XPH50 is more on level with the MT-G2 in terms of ouput, but price on that seems much lower. Lots of potential in these emitters. Not only on a performance level, but also when looking at bang for the buck or CRI.

MT-G2`s and MK-R`s might be a thing of the past now. But before we have a big party, we need to see the emitters in action, evaluate beam quality in various reflectors, how far they throw, real life tint, overdriving capabilites when direct mounted on copper, etc...

Either way, seems like quite exiting emitters compared to what has been released in the past 1,5 years.

What will be interesting is seeing who will carry them. Also, if there will be enough interest for anyone to do a Copper mcpcb for them. I doubt that happening right away. No one has any 6V in stock and the 12V is a different base footprint. I bet it's months before I get anything, because it's going to have to be 6V and 5700K range, before I bother.

Hell, they don't even have the binning documents up yet, on their website.