I wonder if it’d be possible to go with XP-L emitters? I ask because of the new high Vf on the XM class.
Earlier today I put an LD-1 in one of the host X6’s (arrived today) along with a brand new fresh out of the tape XP-L V6 3D emitter. Even with a rested and used lap pull Samsung 26C it makes 3.85A from the LD-1 for 1283 lumens, the Pan BD makes 4.28A for 1497 lumens and an Efest 35A will do 4.95A for 1642 out the front.
With Wights driver, which I am using now almost exclusively, good cells will produce 1700 lumens and then some. Techie or not, if you’re here THAT should inspire! If the XP-L V6 makes 1640 from 5A, the A17DD-S08 will do more. When you see it, you’ll appreciate 7 modes.
With a triple or a quad, this driver does 14-15A. The output from these small lights can be insane, making you giggle and play with the light like a teenager plays on a first date. It’s addictive.
The Eagle Eye A6 is essentially the same as the Convoy S2/S2+/S3, right? If so, can it handle the heat? I've built an S3 which has an XP-L (Noctigon) and Qlite Rev.A 3.04A and it gets hot really quickly at the highest setting at 5 minutes. At 4-5A, I probably won't be game to try it on this host. But if the driver was in the X6, well, that can handle the heat much better than this host.
Just due to the shear mass of the X6 it is not an apples to apples comparison. The X6-SE is one hell of a jam up light - no question. The A6, other than EE quality, is a completely different light that go into a pocket very discreetly...something that cannot be done with the X6.
As stated earlier - there are lights coming that will get the A17DD-S08 driver and copper installed. Myself, I have no way to measure brightness but I will be able to measure heat as well as actually use the light in a real industrial work environment. I am not worried about the amperage or heat simply because that is the purpose of the 7 levels. I know that I can find a level to suit the purpose or task at hand BUT I will also have some serious power should i need it. :)
This is very interesting Dale, i remember that you said that this could be the case when this whole high Vf on the XM-L2 U3 showed it self a while ago but this is the first time i have seen any notice that this in fact could be the case, this very good news if we could confirm that most XP-L V6 is this easily driven hard.
I hoped your theory would turn out to be true, so i almost only bought V6 3D for some future builds, so this is some very nice news.
@bugsy36, Do we know the XP-L lumens bin we will get in this light?
Cajampa :) - As of this moment the bin is unknown. No inquiries to the bins have even been made specifically because we are waiting for the stock production lights to arrive. Also, keep the following in mind.
Most of the XP-L's that I have seen are 2C and 3D. To ME the 2C already appears to have a warmer tint than that of the usual 1A/B or 2B but is referred to as CW.
EE was really good about the tints for the X6-SE and to me it is not an issue until what we see what their "usual XP-L is" and people can decide what they want AND if EE can actually provide it.
Tints are a moot point until the people involved can show what the driver truly is or isn't capable of even though I have the utmost confidence in the A17DD-SO8 driver (because I have actually used it and even lost two lights, and EE and an S2, to my GF and a coworker because of this driver - glad they were impressed but sort of sucks too. LOL).
Until the lights arrive I am doing everything possible to avoid stirring the pot with debates. :)
I will say that if this light/driver combination does not do what I think is possible I will be surprised but I do not think that will be the case and even though I am the one pursuing this GB the real testing is not being done by me (other than temps and using at work) for the purpose of a fair evaluation. With that...even though I am pursuing this..it would most definitely NOT be possible without the cooperation and help of the others (and no, I am not saying unless they so choose to out themselves earlier :))
bugsy36, your answer was about the hue bin, i asked about what lumens bin EE are using for this light, i would guess a V4, but maybe hope for something higher like the V5 or V6, on the BLF X6 they used a XM-L2 U2 the second highest lumens bin for the XM-L2.
Personally i don’t worry about the hue bin as long as there will be a NW or WW option.
My mistake. That seems to be what everybody is asking. I honestly do not know whether V4, V5, or V6 yet. I figured wait til the lights get here - test - verify with EE and BG what we have - then see what is readily available.
It’s addictive.
Man I can forget to bring my own arse along for the ride…