@ I will change the title. But you have to understand when a company like Nitecore set up a system like that, I use the system to check my product, to be told the code is invalid, at the first time of entering. To that is conformation from Nitecore afterall it’s their website. I felt I was right to post here in such a way.
Marc.
This is how XTARs works. If the fake has a legit number, and is verified prior to the genuine item, the fake will appear to the buyer as legit, and the genuine item will appear as invalid. I would assume the key is that the numbers are not consecutive, and therefore it would be less likely a number used by fakes would be unused, or in the XTAR/NITECORE system as a released number.
Its unlikely they use consecutive numbers, or that every possible number is in their system. A block of numbers, however selected, would be released with stock and the stickers applied to them. No other unused numbers would exist in the system. I could be wrong though.
Banggood may or may not be selling fakes. It could be someone has predicted some numbers and Banggood just happens to be selling the legit unit. Again, I could be wrong though.
without being able to identify circuit components and engineering like layout etc, it might be near impossible to tell them apart with some fakes. Others will stand out… Depends how committed people are. Worth noting there are definite fakes that are almost as good as the originals round here but a lot cheaper, generally they are referred to as clones.
So the only thing we can deduce is that whilst the chargers maybe fake, the numbers are genuine. :bigsmile:
LOL pretty much sums it up.
I agree!
How many digits is a nitecore validation number? Numeric only (only numbers, no letters)?
16 I think, no letters.
Marc.
I did not request that they respond directly to me - no need. I asked that they respond to this thread directly to clear the air.
As for the claims....let me say this:
I have several of the Nitecore chargers, a few D2's and 4's. NONE are fakes and ALL work properly. If Banggood says they are buying directly from Nitecore then "I" have zero reason not to believe them. They are one of Nitecore's biggest distributors and it would be stupid to sell anything counterfeit that is labeled Nitecore. Just because Sysmax has a flawed system does not mean these goods are counterfeit.
How do I know?....Because it is crapshoot and has yet to work with any of the D-series for me and I KNOW that they are not counterfeits.
I just love the way that many like to jump the gun and believe the worst.
@bugsy36 - I Think you are right. Thanks for your time 
and thanks to Banggood for posting in this thread
and also thanks to original poster for making us know there is a problem with the validation system
My D4 that i got from Banggood is genuine even on NITECORE validation site.
@bugsy. I appreciate you contacting sysmax and for what it worth I think the validation system doesn’t work properly I think that has been proven to be the case for a lot of people. However I think it is a little unfair to say I jumped the gun, after all I followed the process and was told the code with my charger was invalid, it worked for Vladraq above, he was told his was authentic, I wasn’t.
As for thinking the worst, this is China we are talking about, it happens a lot.
Marc
A D4 from BG with my name on it is somewhere between China and Sweden right now. I will validate and post the results in this thread when it has arrived.
I don’t know if Banggood has their own warehouse.
I don’t know if Banggood buys directly from manufacturers rather than through wholesalers.
The actual origin of the item matters — as does “provenance” or “chain of custody” — meaning knowing whose hands have been on an item all the way from the original parts through assembly and sale to the purchaser.
Because, at every step, someone’s tempted to substitute cheap crap for good product and rake off some profit.
Many online sellers — not just Chinese sellers — are actually “drop shippers” who take orders, show you a tempting catalog, but don’t actually have the products. They match up the orders they can get with whoever’s selling the product and have it shipped without ever touching it.
Often they have no clue what they’re selling, as you can tell from the “support” email we get.
Amazon does something similar: The dark corner of Amazon: faulty products and dangerous knockoffs - The Daily Dot
That’s my last point really, if amazon can do it then why would I be surprised if Banggood do it.
Personally like I have said earlier in the thread it might be the charger is not fake but that Nitecore know nothing of it or it’s validation code. Simply because it was sold through a back door somewhere.
What I am a little surprised at it that BG have not seemed in anyway put out by it all. Just the usual ‘we only sell genuine Nitecore’. Maybe they should have got in touch with sysmax instead of bugsy.
Marc.
I will have to check mine later tonight when I get home. I also bought one from “Sold by Join You and Fulfilled by Amazon”. I hope mine is real, but I have noticed it gets quite warm when charging and has that ‘hot electronic parts smell’
As others have pointed out the real question is if Nitcore’s validation system works or not (and apparently not). It’s a valid question to ask if a vendor is selling genuine items or not but Banggood isn’t responsible for monitoring or revising Nitecore’s system. If BG has confirmed that they are selling genuine items then what Nitecore does in terms of validation is out of BG’s hands.
Just my opinion of course
Yes I agree. I was thinking along the lines of ‘we only sell authentic products and as an AD for Nitecore we will contact them and ask them for an explaination and report back’. At the end of the day it is BG getting a bad name because Nitecore have a crap system.
Marc.
If Nitecore made it, which is what is important here, then they should/would have the code. They would be unlikely to place the codes in the system when they are sold to consumers (that would rely heavily on sellers entering the data or recording it and then informing Nitecore), Nitecore would enter them in the system when the units leave their control/factory/warehouse, or when made and the sticker applied to a unit.
Your complaint will not rank highly and BG would not employ a special team to investigate the complaint. Not quite what youve said, but they would be expending resources to follow up an issue its already sure is not realistic. If they buy direct from the maker, then they have little doubt its genuine. If not, they have limited ability to prove a unit in your hand is fake. Lastly, the number system is far from foolproof, and they would know it as would Nitecore and XTAR that use the same system.
Is the Nitecore system scratch and reveal numbers?