Observations:
1. BLF is flooded with people who gets up in the middle of the night. On the other hand, budget/economy lodging in travel where multiple beds in one room with strangers do not mention moon light flashlight.
2. Documentary on multiple day hiking don’t ever show people reading at night. They show, though, people sitting around a camp fire singing or conversing.
This thread reminds me of….
So? Your point is?
1. THE WORLD is flooded with people who get up in the middle of the night. Most people probably don’t know sub-lumen lighting is available or they’d be using it. I never used moon mode on any of my flashlights, until I got a flashlight that has it. Now, I use it every day! :bigsmile:
2. Documentaries about hiking aren’t going to show people reading, because that is not a hiking/camping/outdoor specific activity and also is considered to be boring and/or lonely. So it doesn’t fit the story line of a hiking/camping adventure. As others have shown above, it does actually happen.
Wait, is that why Elvis disappeared???
OMG, I think it might explain Michael Jackson too!
Dangit, why did I say “OMG”? Goddesses don’t say OMG, it’s like saying “oh my self!” I’m so confused… must be spending too much time around humans.
I’m’n’a stop thinking about this and go back to playing with photons.
+1
I also think we are talking about the standard clickly switch. On my Nitecore P36 (yes I think it is a great light) it has a wheel with 10 setting 2-2000 lumen and with a single movment of my thumb I can go through all 10 settings. I am amazed and the difference between first setting 2, and the second setting of 20 lumens, who would hve though that 18 lumens is so much. As the light it so easy to control I have found that “just right” is really job specfic. I dont think it is perfect because its stobe is so fast it is really just a 50% pwm but as it is hard to hit on accident it’s a non issue.
Modern flashlights have more than one mode
Different levels to light one's abode
Now it's sure you can plead
For each one there's a need
Turned mine on and was glad that it glowed
Now most people live by their own code
And each one of us keeps his own road
I just want on and off
Others' views I won't scoff
My opinions on you I won't goad
My, my, have I touched raw nerves ???!!!
Did I mention that messing with flashlight is a strange hobby, which could make you look weird to the others?
You should stop it by now, and pick up some normal hobbies instead!
I have recently read a very technical study (and of course I did not bookmark it's location) that compared using a red light or other colours or a low white light in a dark setting in order to evaluate which colour was best for dark adaptation/night vision recovery. I believe it was a US Military study but I may be wrong.
The conclusion was that a dim neutral white light was best for dark adaptation recovery than any red or other colour light. Hence Moonlight mode :-)
Silly bibihang, why would I want to be normal?
It sounds dreadful, especially if I’d have to stop playing with lights.
Most of my favorite people certainly don’t qualify as normal… Take my friend Bug-Eyed Earl for example. He’s great fun to have around, but I don’t see him very often because he never answers when I send minions to invite him to parties:
I go to bed late a lot while my girlfriend is sleeping. The side I sleep on is in the far end of the room. Now, get this, I know it’s gonna be hard to grasp, but with moonlight mode she is undisturbed by any light and I see enough to get into bed. I wouldn’t think it’s that uncommon that a lot of the times the two people in a couple go to bed at different times. I know man, this shit is really confusing, like I’m talking about going to bed in response to you talking about the getting out part, but don’t give up dude! You can figure this one out, maybe if you read it couple of times, I’m rooting for ya!
Yeah, don’t you hate it when there isn’t an exact set of instructions of what to do and not to do? Like yelling in the middle of the night, turning on the lights, or like lifting the toilet lid when you need to take a pee! I mean, man, are we supposed to think for ourselves or what? How stupid do they think we are!?
Oh yeah! That would be awesome! A documentary showing someone reading in a tent. Man, wouldn’t that be cool!? People would watch that shit for hours! You’re on to something, start a show man, or sell the idea to Discovery channel.
Oh wait, I’ve seen people in adventure races on TV use really low light to read maps in the dark… but of coarse, that doesn’t count! It was reading books we where talking about, not reading maps, duh! Or wait, maybe it wasn’t low enough to be called moon mode? Yeah, that has to be it! They use low but not “moon mode” low, coz that would be sooo stupid.
You seem to have a lot of experience in outdoor life and multiple day hiking, having seen so many documentary on the subject to know what people do and don’t do. Man, I bet you’ve got loads of experience in many other fields too, gathered from watching all that TV.
No way man, I’m with ya! I mean, if there are no specific instructions written about it or they don’t do it on TV, then it’s useless and people that think otherwise need to learn! The word must be spread!
It’s BLF’s oil thread.
I rejoice in all y’all’s exercise of your Free Speech Right, but arguing over opinions is just idiotic. Stupid, even.
And I can safely say that I am unable rightly to apprehend how someone could live in a place and not know their way around their own home in the dark! Even SWMBO, who never turns a light OFF, hardly hesitates when the power goes off.
And I’m no Bear Grills, but in all the miles I’ve hiked in the woods as a camper, AT-hiker, hunter, etc. I cannot imagine having the leg strength to haul a BOOK along!!! Reading in the tent? Why don’t you go outside, keep your flashlight in your pocket and enjoy the NIGHT You’d be amazed at how beautiful the world around you is after the sun goes down!! There will be plenty of time for reading when you get back to your asphalt jungle.
Now back to your regularly-scheduled Opinion-Tennis Match…
Consider this thread a practice session for how to carry on a discussion without descending into abuse.
I read a lot, always have, even on pack trips(that’s backpacking not mule packing where the four legged critter schleps your gear though I’ve done that as well). As a child our family would bring a book or two along to read aloud by the campfire but back then there weren’t rechargeable cells so the reader had to either tip the book to the light or sit with their back to it rather than waste the precious AA cells(I still have my 2xAA plastic Duracell light). An hour or so of that and then off to the bag to watch shooting stars or spot satellites. Nowadays, I take advantage of moon mode to pack an even smaller single cell AAA light and recharge it with a tiny solar charger and read because I can no longer easily see satellites or shooting stars.
> because I can no longer easily see satellites or shooting stars
When I had my cataract surgery, they wanted to put in a plastic lens focused at close reading distance (to match my other nearsighted eye).
I insisted on one focused at infinity, for watching the Moon and stars at night on camping trips.
I’ve never regretted it.
Oh, and that’s part of how I learned about how different people’s perception of brightness can be.
<a href=“”eye relief” diameter age”\ - Google Search>Younger people’s pupils open far wider than older people’s pupils.
Younger people’s retinas are much more contrast-sensitive than older people.
Some people have “visual snow” — noise — in their vision.
Young people can see the dark; older people tend to see the noise inside of their heads.
Visual equivalent to eh? 
THAT should be on a T-shirt, right there!! Good ’un!
My “expiration date” passed in the last century, so I’m not willing to miss a moment now that SWMBO came along & gave me a reprieve.
Still, I make some mistakes:
Before I got LASIK I could see a few of Jupiter’s moons.
Now I can see well enough, unaided, at some distance, in daylight, but in the dark every point of light looks like a ‘*’… :_( Y’all should really go out & enjoy the night while you can. The books will be there when you get back. And consider that LASIK is for people who care more about how they LOOK than how they SEE. IMNERHO, of course.
You must be quite strong, as we would even unpackage food, to save the weight of the bags/boxes/cans; and even the weight of water wasn’t welcome in the pack so we learned to freeze-dry what didn’t come that way.
I love reading. Been doing it since age 3. As you might surmise from my writing style, I’ve paid attention. However, I still prefer to live in the moment rather than reading about it. Even miles from anywhere on the AT when we used to hike parts of that, I always preferred sitting around the campfire with family and friends (old and new) telling tales at night anyway. As you also might surmise, I still love spinning yarns…
Yes, we did all the repackaging business and counted pounds by the 1/4 ounce and it helped to have an at least average build but part of the experience is deciding what’s important to you which won’t be the same as for someone else.
Probably best to stop with it didn’t work for you as this last is a rather harsh judgement. Both of my brothers have had it and are well glad of it though I’m sure you could find plenty of other people with less positive results.
As I see it the basic issue in threads such as this is the development of a point of view that works well for an individual but fails when applied to everyone. We are individuals but time and again there is a lack of whatever it is that allows some enough flexibility to permit others to make different choices and others not. “Live and let live” loses it’s meaning when followed by “unless you’re not like me”.
This is why programmable drivers are so popular though I’m sure there are plenty of people that don’t want choice. That too is a choice and I’m fine with that. 