who is buying me a XP-E2 Torch led? Update: DBCstm did, test is in post#81

We need some DBCStm Showoff BeamShots®

A dozen well centered emitters!

So, is this a throwy showerhead light? Yes, beamshots! :-)

No Joke!!! That’s a lot of work into that light Dale. Good job, but it’s all useless without beamshots! :wink:

I though you had planned to do a multi with XHP70 and optics in that light Dale?

1811 lumens from a XM-L2 U3 1A :open_mouth: thats way more than i have ever hear someone reporting. Is it old stock or new?
The highest i have seen someone report on a U3 before i think was around 1500 & 5A thereabouts. For 1811 you would have to have more than 7A i would think, and i thought the U3 burnt out way before that :~
Please some more details, if this mean the good old XM-L2 is back at the high lumens game that would be very good news :slight_smile:

Tom E recently got an T6 4C i think it was really high also, in Nitro’s triple spacer order thread :slight_smile:

I don't think that the XM-L2 was ever out of the high lumens game, but it was out of the high amps game. All of the M6s I've built with the U3s were as bright or brighter than all of those I built with U2s, despite pulling about 1A less each. The U2 1As at around 6.5A each would average about 4650 OTF, but a few of them broke 5000 OTF. With the U3 1As at around 5.3A each they are almost all doing 5000 OTF. So the average U3 build is about as bright as the brightest U2 builds were, and are also more efficient. Since OTF lumens and efficiency is what really counts, I am fine with them pulling less amps now.

Since I finished late last night, this will have to do…

My modified Fenix TK-75 at 4300 lumens

The 12 XP-E2 Torch Showerhead at 2974 lumens

Cajampa, I DID get this for the XHP-70 and Lum 5-90, but the head is SOOO shallow, there’s just no way without a lathe to make that happen. So I punted.

And yes, the 1811 lumen X6 is using a new XM-L2 U3 1A emitter. I first de-domed one, it was making over 1600 naked, so I put a stock one in and sure enough, over 1800 lumens!

On these Torch emitters, I really expected them to be on the blue/white side. But they’re not at all bad, actually showing a nicer tint than the XM-L2 U3 1A’s in my TK-75. A pleasant surprise.

^ Whoa, that's got to be the tightest 12 emitter hot spot around. Can't wait to hear what you think about the spill and general usability of the light.

Is your final config DD using 2S3P cells and 2S6P emitters on copper?

It’s got the factory boost driver in it. But yes 2S3P on the cells, 6S on the emitter, in 2 groups. The driver has 2 channels, each channel has a positive and negative lead for the 6S set that it runs. There are 2 toroids as well, presumably one for each channel.

Dale, I just noticed it but the clown to the left of the fireplace is kinda creeping me out! Clowns in general give me the creeps.

In a rather unfair side by side, I shot beamshots of the TrustFire 12x XP-E2 Torch at 97 yds and 610 yds against my new SupBeam K40 VN. This K40 was a gift by a couple of friends of mine and I’m blown away, nice guys, love the light. :slight_smile:

TrustFire 12x at 97 yds.

K40 VN at 97 yds.

TrustFire 12x at 610 yds

K40 VN at 610 yds

Now, who would have thought a 12x showerhead light would be putting light on a barn 610 yds distant? The driver is stock too, going up against a highly modified thrower. Not too shabby says meself! :slight_smile: lol

Thanks for the beamshots Dale :slight_smile:

Do you have some kcd numbers on that TrustFire 12x? it looks surprisingly throwy for a showerhead light. And kcd & lumens on the K40 vn for comparison would also be interesting.

Without charging cells up, I’m seeing 1649 lumens on the K40. 376.75Kcd.
The Trustfire 12x shows 137.25Kcd.

Again though, the cells have been used, the Trustfire more so than the K40.

That K40 is impressive

Thanks :slight_smile:

Thank you Dale for the follow up and the beam shots. I was just certain that you would swap out the boost driver for direct drive. I know you mentioned frying some xpe2's in that 4 up, but figured you'd give it a go in the 12 up. Now that I think about it, the 4 up was just one cell. So I see why would didn't go that way with 6 cells.

Hard to put the beam shots in perspective, without knowing emitter current but it would be a real pain in the arse to set up and measure in that light.

Just measure one of the two strings. Since they are in series all of the emitters see the same amount of current. With that boost driver it doesn't matter if you have 100% charged high drain cells.

I am not following this forum very well since I did not seen this before. Thanks for this.

With 3 of these Torch emitters left over, I got busy on an old project today. I used one of the Torch emitters on a 20mm Noctigon. I used the driver out of my new XR55 from Bangood, 7 7135 chips at 380mA. Engaging a star gives me L-M-H with no blinkies so I’m good with that. These went into a Courui D01 assembly, the head replaced with the massive Ledil Seanna. :bigsmile:

I didn’t even measure amperage, gotta be less than 3A, 2.8? So it’s making some 200+ lumens, right? How about a 357Kcd throw from this little hot rod? :wink:

any new places to buy the xp-e2 torch ? (prefer free shipping) more specific looking for 1A tint.