Yeah they don’t pick up super fast PWM, that’s correct… but I’ve found that usually if the camera picks it up I can also see it… I don’t mind PWM if it’s a super high frequency that’s undetectable to my eye, or the camera. I also used to do the fan blade in a dark room, or shower test, and I can usually see it then as well.
Well I ordered the XP-G2 dedomed one from Hank. Next month I’ll probably order the Nichia from Richard. Now this is top secret information I’m sharing with you guys! In fact it is SO SECRET, I’m not even telling my wife. Possession of such ground breaking lights should be kept on the down low. Wouldn’t want this information getting out to just anyone who doesn’t understand this technology. Anyways, that’s my story and I’m sticking to it!
Can anyone give any examples of lights with approx 70kcd in throw? I am trying to imagine what it would look like 
Actually just the other day, I measured a modded out SupFire M6 at 5150 lumens @start, and 69 kcd. This was on fresh Sam 25R's, XM-L2 U3 2A's on 20mm Noctigons using a BLF 20DD by C_K (3.1), UCLp lens. Tail wires fully modded out, heavy wires, etc. This is very similar to RMM's full mod M6. Think I did other multi-emitter with high lumens with similar throw, like the fully modded J18's. K just checked my notes - J18's modded with XM-L2 U2 1A's/copper doing 6.42A at the tail for 2 cells did 6,100 lumens @30 secs and 68 kcd throw. When I got the tail amps at 7.4A, I got 75 kcd throw.
Also I measured a stock COURUI D01 at 680 lumens @30 secs and 67 kcd throw. Of course COURUI's will have a lot of variation piece to piece.
Ohh - also measured a stock Yezl Y3 at 62.5 kcd (pics and #'s in the OP here: https://budgetlightforum.com/t/-/27258). Again, Y3's will vary significantly unit to unit.
In case it helps, the original Skyray King got about 22.5 kcd and could shine about 300 meters. The XinTD C8 V4 got about 33 kcd or 360 meters. A Blackshadow Terminator gets about 50 kcd or 60 kcd, 450-490m of throw. IIRC a Jacob A60 gets about 70 kcd or 530 meters, but its beam profile is very very different than the Meteor. The Fenix TK75 gets about 92 kcd or 606 meters.
With such a floody beam, 530 meters of throw won’t look quite as impressive as it would with a narrower beam. The bright foreground makes the pupils constrict so that distant objects don’t look as bright as they would with a dedicated thrower.
The Terminator’s beam is probably the most similar to the Meteor, but it uses reflectors instead of optics. Have you ever seen a Carclo 10507 optic in person? It has an unusual beam pattern with a bright central spot, dim spill, and some evenly-spaced artifacts out in the spill which look like the hour markings on a clock. The 10511 has far fewer artifacts but also less throw. The 10508 and 10509 have no artifacts, amazingly smooth beams with no discernable spot, but even lower throw. The Meteor uses the 10507.
Edit: I should mention that the 10507 artifacts aren’t very noticeable during actual use, especially outdoors.
thanks for the replies guys! Much appreciated
Ordered the dedomed xpg2. Can’t wait! But will have to sell the niwalker mm15vn though to make wallet space now 
It's on its way to Texas, so that our favorite stubborn and opinionated Texan can give it a review and torture test. 
I was expecting much less, in the 20Kcd range because of the ultra small optics used, the TN36 is rated 22Kcd and many buyers seem to have regrets because they ignored the candela rating concentrating only on lumens as I assume they were expecting 6000lumens to light up the hills at a distance, that sort of interpretation of "wall of light" expression.
So in case you are not looking for a ultra tiny pure flooder and to take advantage of the quick access UI Zebralight style, for like tight wooded spaces you are better of with single LED-large reflector lights. As for 70Kcd, as ToyKeeper says "The bright foreground makes the pupils constrict so that distant objects don’t look as bright as they would with a dedicated thrower."
You meant a Texan.
I wonder what will happen to that test light when it’s done testing on the last list? is it going to be a giveaway? or send it back ?
I`m in for the giveaway! ;)
and K40M does 70k too.
You’re sending it to Justin? I guess I’ll get it when he’s done. 
I’m not stubborn and opinionated, I’m persistent and brilliantly educated. :bigsmile:
And along these lines, for those that know me, my daughter bought me a T shirt a few years back for my birthday that reads “I DO know it all, I just can’t remember it all at once.”
Edit: It just dawned on me, if I get to torture it shouldn’t I be at the end of the list instead of the beginning? 
Roll down the windows babe, we got lights to test! ROFLM
Edit II: For those that are squeamish, I will not be throwing this out of any windows or to be honest, torturing it in any other way. Might let Daniel play with it some, 7 yr olds have a way of finding flaws in most anything.
Noooooo! 
I’m really curious how it detects excess humidity inside the light… the docs say it has a special shutdown mode for that.
That special shutdown mode I like to refer to as a “short”
Cant wait for see the mini movie for the M43!!!
I wish the ‘counter’ was working on Hank’s site. I would like to know how many are flying off the shelves.
Well… Hank said he only make 300 … just look how many left on the page