Wow and ouch. That Nitecore EA8 looks like an anemic mini mag incan 2xAA :s
Do you think using different optics would increase the throw? and by how much? or are these the narrow optics already?
With the exception of that Nitecore, all the other lights are heavily modified. This little beast holds it’s own in any company direct from Noctigon! Impressive!
And yes, I have to say the de-domed XP class in this light works quite well. The tint isn’t as pure maybe as a domed emitter would be, but it’s not an issue and the increase in lux is pretty impressive when you look at the shallowness of the TIR. When you pull the battery tube off this thing, you see real quick that it’s almost all battery! The head is half threads, crazy thin up in there! Meticulous detail to get the driver so compact, with the very short sets of 10507’s it’s pretty remarkable.
Can I take the bezel off and pull the optics to see how it works as a 12 emitter mule? :bigsmile: I’d love to see the red Noctigon board and the brilliantly laid out emitters sitting under the well done AR lens, might just have to do that with mine when I get the Nichia’s I’m looking for and forget about it reaching any distance, I want it to illuminate subjects for photography anyway and that’s almost always within 20’.
I really am impressed. Admittedly a bit overwhelmed with the UI but even an old dog can learn a new trick on occasion. (Takes the right Scooby snack)
XP class?
your beamshots show XP-G2
right?
Yes, which is XP class not XM or XHP or MTG or or or
Can I take the bezel off and pull the optics to see how it works as a 12 emitter mule? :bigsmile: I’d love to see the red Noctigon board and the brilliantly laid out emitters sitting under the well done AR lens, might just have to do that with mine when I get the Nichia’s I’m looking for and forget about it reaching any distance, I want it to illuminate subjects for photography anyway and that’s almost always within 20’.
Hi. In your opinion, could a novice take the bezel off and switch the optics to more floody ones (10509)? How are they seated? Thank you for a reply.
I was just confused because the XP-L is in that group also - but a very different emitter…
The XPL breaks the rules. Forgot about that when I mentioned class, sorry.
I took a couple of video’s while looking over the Meteor. I meant to expose the brilliant red Noctigon board in all it’s glory, but, alas, twas not meant to be. 
I have the vids uploading, in the meantime I will say the expected optics change is not going to be as easy as all that. I should have grabbed a suction cup, prolly would have gotten in. That’s how I roll, day late and a dollar short, when I can remember to show up at all…
Thanks. I see that mentioned in the post, but I don’t see a ATtiny85V in the driver pictures. I wonder how they managed to fit everything onto a chip with only 8 pins? I count 10 (main LEDs, red, green, blue, switch, voltage sensor, thermal sensor, VCC, Ground, Reset). Maybe they got R/G/B all on one pin using a serial interface?
ToyKeeper, it uses mcu internal temp sensor (calibration made on factory), rgb are multiplexed with 2 pins, and uses reset as input pin (yes, it needs HVSP programmer). And you have forgotten about current measurement 
As far as i know, this driver based on Indigo
Okay, thanks. I didn’t know INFERION made the driver. That explains how he had so much information about the driver’s internal workings, and why he responded so negatively about the idea that anyone might want to make changes.
I usually go with the assumption that there’s no such thing as one-size-fits-all, and try to make it as easy as possible for people to modify things they don’t like. For example, using chips with large pins for easy flashing, sharing all source code, and not requiring a HVSP programmer. It’d be awesome if the Meteor’s code was available and its MCU could be flashed with a SOIC clip, but it seems that’s not the case. Modifying it would require a much bigger investment than a simple nanjg driver.
I couldn’t read the MCU chip markings in the Meteor driver pic, but the Indigo driver (which uses the 85) looks very similar to the Meteor driver.
These large testpads on the PCB are used for programming too, so it should be no problem to connect the hvsp programmer or fuse doctor. Step up drivers are a bit dangerous, because in case of error it can open transistor and short circuit the baterries, that makes big badaboom. This software tested for all kinds of possible and impossible failures, and is very safe. This is the reason, why code is closed, and any changes in sw are not wanted
And yes, how many industrial devices at home have open source? Sometimes i want to reprogramm my microwave oven too…
GAAAAAAH!!!
Can’t decide which one to get!!! J) J) J)
Brightest hotspot and max throw (XPG2 dedomed) or nice tint (Nichia)
Who was crazy enough to give Dale an Exacto Knife
Your commentary was hilarious.
Which hammer?
Chibi, the LFH didn’t work and I couldn’t find the BFH so I put it back together. I DID put the bezel on it without the lens and bang it on the table face down for some Kinetic energy action but that too failed to dislodge anything. Oh well, at least no animals were harmed in the making of that video.
2nd Vid is getting close, it’s the more informative of the two.
Oh, and Hank informed me that one leg of each optic is glued to the mcpcb. So, had I gone with Automotive grade 3M double sided tape or a suction cup I probably would have succeeded. So much for a simple optic change. BUT, if you’re going to put a more diffuse or wide angle optic in, damaging the one that’s there is no big deal. Drill a hole in it, screw a screw in the hole, grab the screw with vice grips and give it a good old fashioned dentist’s tug. Hank doesn’t care what you tear up, you’ve paid for it to get that far and he can always make more. 
Hmm...you already forgot where you put the hammer? Hmm ;)
Kidding aside,are these optics the narrow ones? (More throw), medium or wide (don't even know if they exist )
These are the Carclo 10507, the narrowest. Richard got this one in XP-G2 S2 1D and de-domed. It’s the highest throw combination available in this light.
Thanks Dale!!