New XP-L High Intensity Emitter

When they’ll be available? OR when ,where to get them?

I’m kind of into aesthetics, like, I LOVE the way the SBT-70 looks.

That said, I might have to put 12 of these in my new Meteor and leave the optics off. A 12 XP-L High Performance Mule! :slight_smile: Oh YEAH! Bring it! Did you say 3D tint? Do a little dance, make a little love, get down tonight! WooHoo!

Even if it doesn’t fit, perhaps we can make it fit by carving off the sides of the cover with an x-acto knife.

this changes everything

Cree reels are generally 1000.

It looks to me like the Carclo optics will fit over these, barely. Normall when de-doming there is a small gap between the die and the very bottom of the optic, this will be taken up by that .35mm difference in height

borrowing here from the pic previously posted, the height difference is going to be very close, it might be quite feasible to lightly sand the narrow end of the optic to sit at but not press into the covering over the die. Effective creating a seal? This might actually work very well, can’t wait to try it out. :slight_smile:

In the meantime, I might try slicing the dome off an XP-L like I’ve done recently with the XHP-50 and see how that looks/works/fits.

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Could I ask this; could this XPL be in a cool white tint?
Would it be brighter than a sinner triple nichia 1000 lumen?.
Thanks.

And they should still be better performers than this new if you do clean dedome, only no tint shift with new one?

Some modders did find the way to change emitter tint after dedoming.

But of course we all want to try new stuff

The good news is, they work! These will fit under the 10507 optics on a Noctigon triple star.

I used a 1mm thick stainless steel washer to control the depth of cut and a scalpel to do the deed, shaved the domes off 3 XP-L V5 1A emitters on a copper star. Then I removed the emitter and re-flowed them onto the triple Noctigon, placing the stack of copper 20mm SinkPADs on top of the 3 shaved emitters to ensure they were seated low and not held up with solder.

The optics fit on perfectly! And the 1A tint is still showing, a slightly blue/white output on the white styrofoam ceiling tiles in our house. Excellent!

The bad news is, I don’t have funds to buy a full reel of these. :frowning: lol

Are you asking whether a single XP-L will be brighter than a triple Nichia? Or triple vs triple?
The short answer is that any XP-L will easily outperform a Nichia, and a single XP-L is capable of way more than 1000 lumens. The Nichia has the advantage of better CRI though.

Thanks so would a triple XPL dedomed in a sinner 18650 copper host be good or a triple nichia in your opinion?.
Wondering if these XPL are available in cool white too.
Looking for intensity I guess.
Is one XPL enough or 3 in that host?.
Thanks.

People have gotten 4000+ lumens from triple XP-L set-ups. It’s up to you how hot you want to run it.

Yes, current XP-L’s as well as these new versions are/will be available in all the usual tint ranges including cool white.

The only real answer there is triple XP-L , shaved, under 10507 optics.

I just found that using a 1mm thick washer as a guide, with an XP-L mounted on a 20mm star to hold the emitter and be a base for the washer, I managed to shave the dome off clean with a scalpel. These fit under the optic without altering the optic and don’t seem to have lost tint. So the triple XP-L will do some 3000 lumens and be as intense as you could hope for. :wink:

This is awesome news!

I am seriously interested to see how the tint bins will shake down. Whether these will be available in different groupings (all greener perhaps? bringing back the 2S 2T bins…eek! :P) or if the thin dome interface layer allows them to use the exact same phosphor process and yield the same tint spread as fully dome leds which would be awesome!

Of course hoping for the best case scenario where extra effort goes into producing great tints hard to achieve by diy dedoming today AND a lack of tint shift across the emission angle because of no dome. Bye bye cree rainbow?! Fingers very crossed 8)

Also great to finally see some hard datasheet facts on the difference between a domed and (at least a partially) dedomed emitter. The output bin differences are already interesting but I like the direct comparison for the emission intensity profile of a dedomed emitter vs that of a domed XPL.

Great stuff Cree!

So, what happens if you drop one on the carpet :stuck_out_tongue:

Does the Meteor have a Disco mode?

I wonder which of our members are Cree employees :slight_smile: I know i have seen some that claimed to be ex Cree over at CPF.

I mean i you search for a specific Cree emitter on google you end up here, they have to know about this place.

So what do you guys think, do they have such an airtight NDA contract, so they can only lurk or what, this new XP-E2 Torch & the XP-L HI domeless emitter sounds to me like they are listening :bigsmile:

And i would hope that if you work with emitters all day, you are still passionate about them in your off time, hehe or who knows maybe browsing BLF is considered “work time” over there :smiley: if not it should be :wink:

+1 I agree. :wink:

I recall one BLF member being a Cree employee but it didn’t sound like he was in R&D.