UF-1504, 1503, 1505 - multiple LED's tested for throw (just what you have been waiting for!!!)

I don’t know. I plan on doing a couple more tests today with the 1503 and 1505. I have another meter but it’s a cheapie. Between the two I trust the one I used more. These measurements were taken in my garage with the door closed and no other light. A tape measure was laid out on a table, the light placed on a rifle shooting bag, and I mounted the Lux Meter at 6 feet with a timer. I adjusted the light for the highest output and at 30 seconds (some later than that) I recorded the highest number. The XP-G2 S4 I actually repeated a second time after it cooled and got 136300 lux so pretty damn close to my first one. Let me know if you think I can do anything different.

Wow amazing work…thank you for you time & effort on this!

How does the tint on the de-domed U4 look?

Oh, no, I trust your efforts. The numbers just seem high compared to the measurements I get. It’s entirely likely that we’re just measuring with meters that are off a bit in opposite directions.

One thing to try just to make sure, remeasure one of the lights at 20+ feet and see if the numbers change much. With most zoomies it doesn’t make much of a difference with my meter after 15’, but I’ve had weird readings sometimes if too close.

You interested in us putting together two identical lights, measuring them, and then shipping to each other to test the differences between our meters? I think I have a spare 1504 host around here somewhere…. :bigsmile:

One other thing, is it possible you’re getting some reflections off the table?

Thanks so much for the very thorough testing’s n10sviern :slight_smile:

It confirms my initial train of thought that the xml2 U4 wouldnt be far behind the xpg2 s4 in terms of throw. As well as the relationship between lower current draw with the newer emitters and higher output, obviously pertaining to higher vf.

Since you’ve done so many hot dedomes, what sort of temperature and amperage range would you say is ideal to dedome xml’s and xpg’s?

It’s possible, but the light is about 8” above the table. Over 6 feet, it seems it would be minimal. I’m gonna try something new. I’m going to place the meter on the floor and hang the light 6’ high. It’ll be easier to adjust the meter.

I got 370 (380 at startup) at 3,8A. But my 1504 lenses are not clearest one(lot of color aberration)...

As I mentioned many times before we have emitter bin lottery (up to 15%difference) and lenses lottery(up to 20% difference among same batch of lenses)

So if got lucky 450 kcd can be done or even more...

And of course this is crazy work from N10sivern. I am very grateful for this...

Oh yes, he’s put a lot of time into the GB and testing too. I am grateful for all his efforts.

It is a emitter lottery, lens lottery and luxmeter lottery. I'm surprised that the numbers from different people are generally so close to each other :-)

Check the OP. I just updated with new data.

The 1503 was about 40% of the throw of the 1504 on both the XM-L2 and XP-G2. One was like 39.5% and the other 40.5%. Regardless, I think this consistency confirms my 1504 readings a little. As for the 1505, it didn’t like the XP-G2. I check my measurements two different times and got the same 34100 lux. Due to this, the XM-L2 U4 wins with the 1505.

Curious if you have any idea why the amps jumped so much with the second test of the XP-G2 S4 in a 1504? Or was it just an error typing it up?

Henry, read my note. I had to use a different DMM because I didn’t have any more fuses. It read higher amps on everything

D’oh, how’d I miss that! slaps forehead

Haha.

Any idea why the XP-g2 performed poorly in the 1505?

Thanks for more numbers. The XP-G2 S4 in the 1503 disappoints. In my shortened 1406, a dedomed XP-G2 R5 with a direct driver gives 230 kcd.

In general your numbers are not very far from what I measure in similar mods, perhaps yours are 5% higher.

No idea, in a T20 the XP-G2 is about 30% higher candela output than an XM-L2 from the dozen I’ve put together. Were they tested in the same host? Your XP-G2 numbers are spot on with what I get with an S2 2B in a T20, so either that’s low on your light considering the S4 2B shows higher output than an S2 2B, or your XM-L2 measured high.

Edit: your XM-L2 number is about 60% higher than I’ve ever measured a direct drive XM-L2 in a T20. I’m betting something is going on with that number.

I wonder……I didn’t use any retainer on the 1505 as I didn’t feel like soldering to the pill when changing out emitters. I wonder if the XP-G2 separated from the pill slightly and the LED was getting heat soaked. Hmmmmm

KKW, 458kcd. Tag, your it! :wink:

Next week I plan to work on my ghettofied wavien collar. Maybe I can hit 500kcd! :open_mouth: only 12500 more lux at 6’ and I’m there.

I challenge you to a duel!

Throws gauntlet down.

:bigsmile:

BTW, the advantage of the S4 2B disappears once my order from international outdoor shows up. :wink:

I’m currently assembling one with one of the S3 3A’s I bought from you, so the ball may be back in your court before the S4 2B’s show up.