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Only 19”, but $254!!! and that’s the sale price!!

who buys these things? :~

What about spray foaming the ball?

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=world+globe+lamp&rlz=1Y3TXLS_enGB552GB552&espv=1&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sboxchip=Images&sa=X&ei=tcl1VYiqMYKesgGkkYDAAQ&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAg&biw=384&bih=511

They are generally plastic. I have one, about 12 Inches across and the “map” just peels off, its flimsy plastic but the inner ball is strong and sturdy.

On a side note, we got an integrating sphere in work today. 5.5 feet high

Hmmm, officially calibrated? Do you do custom measurements for BLF?

It will be.
I doubt I will be allowed near it lol

This… Can this be made to work? Inquiring minds want to know! :slight_smile:

I thought about it originally, until I looked at the cost of the stuff. If you buy it in spray cans, then I would think there will be a bunch of lines where the spray streams come together, sort of like fissures, only smaller and all over. If I made a box around it and used the liquid 2 part stuff…, well, the cost would be way too high.

Anyhow, I took that option off the list. I have contacted two plastics outfits about a 36" plastic sphere made from 2 hemispheres. I imagine, just guessing, about $350 to $450 with holes and $275 to $350 without holes, but that's only a guess from a guy who was in plastics for 26+ years, so I may be way low on the price. The material cost for a ball like that would run about $10 and all the rest is overhead plus 150% markup. At least I will know the price by asking.

I am trying to think of a way to make a 36” styrofoam sphere by starting with a sllightly larger styrofoam cube.
Surely it can be done and with a more simple jig than I can currently envision.

The styrofoam cube would be easy enough to build by gluing blocks of the foam together.

Thinking out loud here, the outside of the enclosure doesn’t need to be a sphere, only the inside.
So starting with a cube, it could be quartered, and within each section a radius removed to form a perfect sphere inside when reassembled. Cube on the outside, sphere on the inside.

As for how to radius the interiors, I do not know, but perhaps someone here will

STEEL

Also someone mentioned covering the ball with spray foam, but what about inflating the ball with spray foam in order to paper mache it? Possibly would eliminate the size fluctuation. Then I guess you could halve the sphere to extract the ball later.

I have seen these used as firepits and such, and while somewhat round, they are not really “half balls”.

Another option is to put the ball in a plastic bag, fill with expanding foam and it should mould to the shape of the ball.

Wouldn’t you have to do some finishing work on the inside of the sphere no matter how it’s made? Why would spray foam be any more of a problem? When you remove that ball, no matter what material your sphere is made of, it will need some work, right? Paint the inside of it, sand it smooth, paint again maybe a time or two more… Small fissures should be no problem to fill in with paint, right?

The nitrogen molacule is larger then O2 and so does not leak as easily plus it is more stable over themal changes (but it need to be dry).

Does it need to ber perfectly round? I mean light bounces pretty well and so as we are not trying to get images (like a telescope) maybe good enough is good enough?

Also how about a rod 18 from tip to “heating element” if the heating element was made with a 36 radius and then it could be turned on its axis to cut each of the quarters then assembled, wha la a good enough 36 interior sphere!

When i built my sphere,directly inspired by OL’s original sphere thread,I could see the problems of paper mache straight away.Long drying times,lack of rigidity without a LOT of layers…so after the first couple of layers of paper mache,I switched to polyester resin and tissue/mat.Much stronger,cures in an hour,you can even add carbon/kevlar to the tissue to go hi-tech :wink: .Not as cheap as paper and glue , but not dear either.

With the large diameter,you could even go sandwich construction for more rigidity and less weight,polystyrene sheet,say 5mm thick between an inner and outer skin of GRP.

Coat the ball in washing up liquid at the start to help break it out when finished.

I think Pilotdog 68’s steel (careful)spheres is a great idea

try to use toilet paper with water and glue instead of newspaper

As it turned out, he was right, and he wasnt a Murphy.

If not spray foam, then the poured foam, anchor the ball in a box and pour the foam around it perhaps…

Epoxy and foam here, non affiliated link of course….

There are a lot of ideas here. Some I might try, some I would not. Cost is an issue. Newspaper, Elmer's glue and a $10 ball are not too bad of a price, but many of the other ways are really out of the budget. I got answers on plastic spheres. Twice what I had imagines. Try $700-800 for a 2 piece 36" sphere or $400 for a 1 piece.

Foam in aerosol cans could run me about $50-70 for a thin layer. I did find an interesting video for an adapter, to make the spray can into a wide area dispenser.

https://youtu.be/VN6wfzigHks

He sells them on ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-PRODUCT-Vertical-Foam-Nozzle-DIY-spray-foam-substitute-smaller-jobs-/151706012563?

It might be a possibility.

The larger containers of 2 part foam, such as gallon containers, are also very expensive. More than I would consider.

I think the metal domes from china would be very expensive to ship to the US. The ones made of stainless that I find in the US, originally made in China, are very high.

The resin and fiberglass mesh is an idea I seriously considered, but the fumes are a bit much. I wouldn't be buying a respirator and from my early years of painting cars with no mask, I can't do it with just a dust mask, so that stuff is eliminated, but it is a valid idea and should make a nice sphere.

Paper mache, I believe, was too optimistic and naive for a large sphere. For a small one, it would probably be ok. It was not a great idea, just a cheaper idea.

As far as being truly round and smooth, well, look at real spheres and find the answer to that one. I have a limit where ok and not ok are and my limit is probably more strict than many, but it is what it is.

As always, the posts and conversations are welcome and helpful. Whether I do anything or not, the thoughts put into the thread help all of us and give me more options to think about.