New XP-L High Intensity Emitter

[pilotdog68]

@djozz

I’d have to order some Nichia’s again for this, but I’d be alright doing that. But is it not easier ordering the Nichia leds yourself at leds.de? They take Paypal, I just would not know how much the shipping is to the States.

I get an error

LUMITRONIX LED-Technik GmbH doesnot ship to this location. Please use a different address.

If it’s a hassle or takes awhile to order again I can wait for them to come to mtn or intloutdoor, it’s not a big deal. I was about to place an order with mouser today or tomorrow. Is there a particular variant of the XP-L you would prefer? (feel free to PM me if you want)

[Firelight2]

Got my shipping notice.

My shipment of high-intensity XPLs should arrive Wednesday. I ordered six each of 4000k and 5000k. No idea the tint bin … just the first 4000k and 5000k listed on the Mouser website.

I plan to try them in small triples and zoomies.

[DB_Custom (Dale)]

I should see 12 of the 5700K tomorrow, they go immediately into my M43. (already have 10 brand new 10507’s standing by)

I was told by Nichia that the 219C won’t be ready til August.

[Jubeldum]

Dale. I’m looking forward to seeing your beamshots.

[Firelight2]

@DBCstm

I should see 12 of the 5700K tomorrow, they go immediately into my M43. (already have 10 brand new 10507’s standing by)

I was told by Nichia that the 219C won’t be ready til August.

Nice Dale! Make sure to take some before and after beamshots.

[LSX]

Dale, have you tested one with the Carclo optics?

I emailed Carclo a little while ago and they told me this emitter wouldn’t fit under an unmodified optic.

This was the picture they sent back to me…

[DB_Custom (Dale)]

It’s really pretty simple, if the bottome of the TIR in the Carclo lens is more than 1mm above the step on the leg, it’ll fit. Otherwise some modification might be necessary. So be it. I have no problem sawing/slicing/melting/drilling/carving on pretty much anything.

[Firelight2]

@DBCstm

It’s really pretty simple, if the bottome of the TIR in the Carclo lens is more than 1mm above the step on the leg, it’ll fit. Otherwise some modification might be necessary. So be it. I have no problem sawing/slicing/melting/drilling/carving on pretty much anything.

So what modifications will we need to do to get it to fit?

• Maybe use a very sharp exacto knife and saw the edges of the Silicone lens on the LED so that it’s 45 degrees instead of 90 degrees?
• Maybe file the bottom edges of the optic to widen it slightly. Similar to what we do now for domed XPL, just not so deep into the optic?

[Firelight2]

@LSX

Dale, have you tested one with the Carclo optics?

I emailed Carclo a little while ago and they told me this emitter wouldn’t fit under an unmodified optic.

This was the picture they sent back to me…

Interesting. The fact that CREE actually sent you a picture shows that they’ve thought about it. This isn’t just some off-the-cuff customer service rep giving a clueless a response.

[LSX]

@Firelight2

@LSX

Dale, have you tested one with the Carclo optics?

I emailed Carclo a little while ago and they told me this emitter wouldn’t fit under an unmodified optic.

This was the picture they sent back to me…

Interesting. The fact that CREE actually sent you a picture shows that they’ve thought about it. This isn’t just some off-the-cuff customer service rep giving a clueless a response.

It was Carclo that sent me the render, not CREE.

[DB_Custom (Dale)]

For what it’s worth here, I simulated these emitters by placing a 1mm sheet of copper over the die and shaving the dome off with a scalpel. 1mm fits under the triple optics. I’ve already assembled 12 of these into the M43 but actually didn’t see the output I expected, probably due to losses by shaving the dome off.

So this will be my second attempt.

But the optics did fit over my shaved emitters.

Edit: I cut a square hole in the sheet of copper that fit over the emitter die.

[RMM]

I've got some on the way, but here is some feedback from someone who has tried them under a Carclo:

I have received some XP-L HI samples, I think it will not fit under

Carclo optic, when the LED is soldered onto the 3XP board,

it's raised a bit, and the optic should be in touch with the LED.

So it looks like some small modifications may still be needed. I'm sure that we'll have it figured out in no time though.

[keltex78]

@RMM

I’ve got some on the way…

WooHoo! Best bad news of the day! Ready bank account for impending reduction!

[WhitedragonBC]

@RMM

I’ve got some on the way, but here is some feedback from someone who has tried them under a Carclo:

I have received some XP-L HI samples, I think it will not fit under 

Carclo optic, when the LED is soldered onto the 3XP board,

it’s raised a bit, and the optic should be in touch with the LED.

So it looks like some small modifications may still be needed. I’m sure that we’ll have it figured out in no time though.

Care to disclose which tints/bins you ordered?

[DB_Custom (Dale)]

I have 12 of these in hand as of a few moments ago. Off to the stove top we go!

Not much difference in appearance between these and the ones I cut with a scalpel. I’m not real confident the outcome will be satisfactory, but I will try.

[AlexGT]

@WhitedragonBC

@RMM

I’ve got some on the way, but here is some feedback from someone who has tried them under a Carclo:

I have received some XP-L HI samples, I think it will not fit under 

Carclo optic, when the LED is soldered onto the 3XP board,

it’s raised a bit, and the optic should be in touch with the LED.

So it looks like some small modifications may still be needed. I’m sure that we’ll have it figured out in no time though.

Care to disclose which tints/bins you ordered?

+1 Please share! (Fingers crossed for 1A or 1C)

[DB_Custom (Dale)]

OUCH! (on more than one front)

I spashed solder into my eye. But of course I didn’t stop there. I got the 12 XP-L H1 in place and it was acting odd. Holding the button down for Turbo it’d ramp up then shut off. The 35A cells are at 4.15V. I tried again. A double click for Hi and it’s really bright. From there I held the button down and it went to Turbo. Stupid bright! How about 7141 lumens on Hi, 11,902.5 on Turbo, with the cells still at 4.15V.

The M43 Meteor, at 11,900 lumens. OUCH!

High level one does 1735.5 lumens. That Turbo is ridiculous!

Edit: Start up does just over 12,000 lumens. I attempted a 30 second run and at 20 seconds it was getting really hot, making 10,381 lumens. Wow. Ok, I’m impressed!

And for the record, these flat little XP-L H1’s fit under the Carclo 10507 perfectly with this 12 emitter set-up.

[Jubeldum]

@WhitedragonBC

@RMM

I’ve got some on the way, but here is some feedback from someone who has tried them under a Carclo:

I have received some XP-L HI samples, I think it will not fit under 

Carclo optic, when the LED is soldered onto the 3XP board,

it’s raised a bit, and the optic should be in touch with the LED.

So it looks like some small modifications may still be needed. I’m sure that we’ll have it figured out in no time though.

Care to disclose which tints/bins you ordered?

THIS :exmark:

[Halo]

How is your eye? :~

[Firelight2]

11900 lumens?

Sounds a bit high considering the M43 w dedomed XPL is 8000 lumens.

What’s the lux at 1 meter?