New XP-L High Intensity Emitter

Already are at least one place: http://www.cutter.com.au/products.php?cat=Cree+XPL+HI+Intensity

nice! I’m hoping rmm start selling them here in the US because Cutter shipping is super expensive

WooWoo! My XP-L HI order has just shipped from Mtn. this afternoon! I'm looking forward to getting these in...

@Mr. Nobody: just buy the triple from Mtn once they are back in stock; you know you will want more than one, and that way, you get three, then you can just reflow onto whatever size PCBs you want.

I've got a couple of projects I'm working on with these; one of the triple boards is going into a DD-FET S2; I'm using the additional board to salvage emiters. One to replace the XM-L in my STL-V2 style thrower, another (hopefully) for a future UltraFire 1504 build, and the extra as a spare in case the unthinkable happens...

RMM will be selling them on a single Noctigon soon.

What kind of kcd will a good KD C8 do equipped with this emitter, I wonder?

100 kcd+ I'd think. 100 kcd is what I got on a dedomed XM-L2 U2 in a good C8 running bout 4A.

Stock C'8 do bout 25 kcd, good modded C8's do bout 50 kcd (domed XM-L2, 4A or so).

anyone plan on DDing this emitter? I know I am

I’ve got a batch of XPL HI V2 1A and XML2 U4 1A’s on route :slight_smile:

KD has the HI V2 0B here: http://www.kaidomain.com/product/details.S024235, but seems quite pricy at $8.59.

0B is not 6500K, it is around 8000K, give or take some looking at the XP-L datasheets (binning)

Do you mean XP-L HI datasheets, not XP-L? Looks like bin and temp ratings drop with the factory de-doming.

Binning and labeling for XP LEDs datasheet. 0B is a bin, so all LEDs that fit those X and Y coordinates for what is called 0B are label as such.

:Sp

That was then, this is now. The new XP-L HI changed the datasheets game.

With the loss of the dome at the factory, the output binning is not the same as a standard XP-L, hence, new datasheets for the HI.

Loss? It was never there.

Ahhh - I'm thinking KD has the interpreting the CREE label incorrectly - probably tint is 1C, and 1C is in the 6500K range. Look carefully at the CREE label in their picture:

XPLAWT-H-1C0-V20-0B-0001

Kind of, sort of match's up to CREE's listing on page 59 here: cree.com/~/media/Files/Cree/LED%20Components%20and%20Modules/XLamp/Data%20and%20Binning/XLampXPBL.pdf for the E1 kit, V2 code. In other CREE labels, the tint is in the 3rd grouping (here: http://intl-outdoor.com/cree-xml2-u3-1a-bare-led-p-823.html), so should be 1C.

Not sure how you figure that, is the chip made differently? Different bond wires? If they’d chosen to pop a standard dome on these, would they not then be normal XP-L’s as far as the binning sheets go?

I remember when it was all the rage to put dual exhaust on a car for the gain in horsepower and mileage. No alteration to the engine, but a better exhaust route that allowed it to breathe. Similar in some small way to changing the dome on an emitter, output is altered. Altered output would change the sheets, wouldn’t it?

Edit: The highest color temperature on the Cree charts for the XP-L High Intensity is 6500K. There is no 0B.

Edit II: Tom, you got the jump on me… I was referring to what EF said. And yes, Cree lists the HI separately on page 59 of the tint and binning sheet.

No prob - makes a whole lot more sense now. Glad we all questioned this.

I think you are correct.


Im referring to the use of the word loss, or lost, or factory dedomed as others have called them. It never had a dome to lose or remove, precisely the point of them. They are domeless, not dome lost or loss or dedomed etc.

So as said, its seems accurate these would not fit the normal chart, that chart taking into account a dome.