BLF Kronos X6/X5 GB - Group Buy now closed.

dthoang · July 21, 2015, 7:13pm

I’m in for SS/Cu,NW,1 set.

jescereal · July 21, 2015, 10:33pm

Haha I definitely do want it. Maybe I’ll borrow my textbooks from my classmates this semester instead of buying them, to afford it! :bigsmile:

bugsy36 · July 21, 2015, 10:45pm

NO! ....you sell them an aluminum set for $120 :)

ToyKeeper · July 21, 2015, 11:11pm

The sad part is… that isn’t even unreasonable. Less-capable lights often sell for more than that. Some people made a pretty nice profit reselling the original BLF X6 for a higher price, and these will be even better.

DavidEF · July 22, 2015, 12:06am

Wow! bugsy, you surprise me! I thought you liked these lights! You’re willing to give away a whole set for merely $120?

mhanlen · July 22, 2015, 12:10am

Wait, the BLF X6 SE lights are worth more than we originally paid for them? If so, why?

ahirshy · July 28, 2015, 3:05pm

Okay all, this is the position swap list from the first post all the way through to present.


Date	Post No	Type (Al/CuSS)	Requestor	From Pos	Approver	To Pos	Status (Pending/Approved/Rejected)	Updated (Y/N)
07/11/2015 - 15:41	62	CuSS	ahirshy	26	mizjif	13	Rejected	N
07/11/2015 - 15:41	62	Al	ahirshy	15	djozz	13	Approved	N
07/11/2015 - 16:09	66	CuSS	mattlward	29	LSX	19	Rejected	N
07/11/2015 - 16:09	66	CuSS	mattlward	29	Wrathbringer27	18	Rejected	N
07/11/2015 - 16:42	67	CuSS	abang.tegak		Blank	33	Prefill Desire	Y
07/11/2015 - 16:48	69	CuSS	ahirshy		Blank	31	Approved	Y
07/11/2015 - 21:01	88	Al	DanielM	25	Pregulla	22	Approved	Y
07/11/2015 - 21:55	91	CuSS	B42		Blank	42	Approved	Y
07/12/2015 - 05:41	102	CuSS	will34	14	Ulibar	28	Approved	Y
07/12/2015 - 11:33	112	Al	ahirshy	32	Nguyen	31	Approved	N
07/12/2015 - 16:34	130	Al	iron potato	39	Tinn44	34	Approved	N
07/12/2015 - 18:54	138	Al	nisse		Blank	100	Prefill Desire	N
07/13/2015 - 00:30	157	CuSS	jealous57	20	Sarge930	57	Pending (PM Aprv)	N
07/13/2015 - 04:26	162	CuSS	sonntag	62	Jmpaul320	55	Pending	N
07/13/2015 - 04:26	162	Al	sonntag	49	Jescereal	55	Pending	N
07/13/2015 - 17:53	178	Al	B42	52	Nisse	42	Pending	N
07/14/2015 - 18:52	193	Al	Nguyen	31	ahirshy	32	Approved	N
07/15/2015 - 00:29	205	Al	kst		Blank	58	Approved	Y
07/15/2015 - 03:16	217	Al	ReManG	7	djozz	13	Rejected	N
07/15/2015 - 21:12	235	Al	djozz	13	ahirshy	15	Approved	N
07/16/2015 - 09:07	252	Al	djozz	15	ReManG	7	Approved (PM Aprv)	N
07/22/2015 - 22:35	336	Al	Nguyen	80	Blank	81	Prefill Desire	N
07/26/2015 - 01:34	345	Al	xelario		Blank	88	Prefill Desire	Y
07/28/2015 - 14:44	373	Al	Tinn44	34	iron potato	39	Approved	N

Krono - To start off with you only need to update those with: Status = ‘Approved’ / Updated = ’N’.
After the first update it will only be a case of the new additions to this list which need updating.

All - if there are any above still with Status = ‘Pending’, and it had already been agreed by private PM only, please feel free to PM that individual again and kindly request they post a short Approval of the position swap on the thread for us to record. They could reference your original request post number, else simply which Al/CuSS list and what positions are being moved.

Any mistakes or omissions please let me know.
All position swaps should be discussed and agreed by PM first to help prevent unwanted spam in the thread. Then BOTH parties must post their request AND approval on the thread. I will then endeavour to update the swap list in this post every other evening.

Hope this is useful, please feedback if there is anything I can add or change to make it easier to track.

Keep shining,
Hirsh

Explanation of why I’ve done this and some caveats to know about the list positions here.

mizjif · July 22, 2015, 12:45am

Due to having my wedding booked for the 13th of August, I’d like to keep the #13 s/n. My apologies to ahirshy!

bugsy36 · July 22, 2015, 1:23am

Give away? Not at all David :) I Figured that Jes would want to give them a one-time deal (:)) so he could get his SS/Cu

DavidEF · July 22, 2015, 10:44am

Yes, they actually are worth more than we paid. In fact, they were worth more already when we bought them. These lights will be even more so. The fact is that people in some parts of the world, such as here in the USA, are used to paying a lot and not getting a lot. Last I looked, Lowe’s had a 1000 lumen light for ~$60 or so. Well, we can buy 1000 lumen lights all the time for half that, and they look better and are better quality than those at Lowe’s. With these Group Buys, the idea is to get an even better deal than normal, by the power of buying in bulk. For the promise of hundreds of sales, the retailer and the manufacturer are willing to work with us to lower the price and/or upgrade the lights. I expect in general, a person could get over $250USD for the V2 Aluminum set, especially if they included a decent 4-cell charger and 2 IMR 18650’s and 2 IMR 14500’s. That is quick money. You could sell lots of sets that way, I’m sure. With the right set of circumstances, and the right buyer, you could get a whole lot more than that for it. There are people that regularly pay hundreds of dollars for one flashlight that won’t have the brightness or the features that the X6 V2 will have.

Serifus · July 22, 2015, 11:21am

2 ss/cu plox

LSX · July 22, 2015, 11:47am

I would like to stay at position #19 please.

mhanlen · July 22, 2015, 12:26pm

DavidEF:

mhanlen:

Wait, the BLF X6 SE lights are worth more than we originally paid for them? If so, why?

Yes, they actually are worth more than we paid. In fact, they were worth more already when we bought them. These lights will be even more so. The fact is that people in some parts of the world, such as here in the USA, are used to paying a lot and not getting a lot. Last I looked, Lowe’s had a 1000 lumen light for ~$60 or so. Well, we can buy 1000 lumen lights all the time for half that, and they look better and are better quality than those at Lowe’s. With these Group Buys, the idea is to get an even better deal than normal, by the power of buying in bulk. For the promise of hundreds of sales, the retailer and the manufacturer are willing to work with us to lower the price and/or upgrade the lights. I expect in general, a person could get over $250USD for the V2 Aluminum set, especially if they included a decent 4-cell charger and 2 IMR 18650’s and 2 IMR 14500’s. That is quick money. You could sell lots of sets that way, I’m sure. With the right set of circumstances, and the right buyer, you could get a whole lot more than that for it. There are people that regularly pay hundreds of dollars for one flashlight that won’t have the brightness or the features that the X6 V2 will have.

I understand the economy of flashlights and what you pay in the store for a light. I mean why is the BLF edition here worth more than the standard one? I’m not talking big picture stuff. I have this light and think it’s nice, but why were people flipping this particular light?

DavidEF · July 22, 2015, 1:26pm

mhanlen:

DavidEF:

mhanlen:

Wait, the BLF X6 SE lights are worth more than we originally paid for them? If so, why?

Yes, they actually are worth more than we paid. In fact, they were worth more already when we bought them. These lights will be even more so. The fact is that people in some parts of the world, such as here in the USA, are used to paying a lot and not getting a lot. Last I looked, Lowe’s had a 1000 lumen light for ~$60 or so. Well, we can buy 1000 lumen lights all the time for half that, and they look better and are better quality than those at Lowe’s. With these Group Buys, the idea is to get an even better deal than normal, by the power of buying in bulk. For the promise of hundreds of sales, the retailer and the manufacturer are willing to work with us to lower the price and/or upgrade the lights. I expect in general, a person could get over $250USD for the V2 Aluminum set, especially if they included a decent 4-cell charger and 2 IMR 18650’s and 2 IMR 14500’s. That is quick money. You could sell lots of sets that way, I’m sure. With the right set of circumstances, and the right buyer, you could get a whole lot more than that for it. There are people that regularly pay hundreds of dollars for one flashlight that won’t have the brightness or the features that the X6 V2 will have.

I understand the economy of flashlights and what you pay in the store for a light. I mean why is the BLF edition here worth more than the standard one? I’m not talking big picture stuff. I have this light and think it’s nice, but why were people flipping this particular light?

Compared to the original, it had a few upgrades, including a copper DTP MCPCB and top binned XM-L2 emitter. But, I think the reason people were flipping them had less to do with how they compared to the original, but more to do with how they compared to every-day lights that could be bought in stores. They weren’t being re-sold here, but in the real world, where people don’t know any better. :bigsmile:

mhanlen · July 22, 2015, 1:35pm

Gotcha. I thought it was here. Thanks for the answer.

kronological · July 22, 2015, 4:53pm

You want a quantity of two sets? What tint? plox?

B42 · July 22, 2015, 6:41pm

mhanlen:

DavidEF:

mhanlen:

Wait, the BLF X6 SE lights are worth more than we originally paid for them? If so, why?

Yes, they actually are worth more than we paid. In fact, they were worth more already when we bought them. These lights will be even more so. The fact is that people in some parts of the world, such as here in the USA, are used to paying a lot and not getting a lot. Last I looked, Lowe’s had a 1000 lumen light for ~$60 or so. Well, we can buy 1000 lumen lights all the time for half that, and they look better and are better quality than those at Lowe’s. With these Group Buys, the idea is to get an even better deal than normal, by the power of buying in bulk. For the promise of hundreds of sales, the retailer and the manufacturer are willing to work with us to lower the price and/or upgrade the lights. I expect in general, a person could get over $250USD for the V2 Aluminum set, especially if they included a decent 4-cell charger and 2 IMR 18650’s and 2 IMR 14500’s. That is quick money. You could sell lots of sets that way, I’m sure. With the right set of circumstances, and the right buyer, you could get a whole lot more than that for it. There are people that regularly pay hundreds of dollars for one flashlight that won’t have the brightness or the features that the X6 V2 will have.

I understand the economy of flashlights and what you pay in the store for a light. I mean why is the BLF edition here worth more than the standard one? I’m not talking big picture stuff. I have this light and think it’s nice, but why were people flipping this particular light?

If you talk anything up and are good at it, you can sell anything. There are a few “brands” like SK68s that get people to buy them for $50, just a regular light you can buy for $3 on sale. Higher price does not = better. At least if some people were selling the BLF lights for a bit more they were getting a good light for near its value rather than an OK light for minimum 10x the price with the SK68 light.

bugsy36 · July 22, 2015, 6:14pm

Aside from selling something that people do not know what we know....

Cost of base unit plus cost of additional parts
Can "I"do it without screwing it up (I originally felt that way and sometimes still do)
Wanting a light engraved as BLF Special Edition or Special Edition anything ...like in the automotive business "limited" "super sport" etc.

The X6-SE would easily cost $40 when you add the additional parts and then you would have to do it. The BLF A6 is very similar.

The SS K6v2 and the Cu K6 add a very custom dimension that goes into the hundreds for a one-off even the aluminum models with their limited availability will be a deal and a steal.

This at the very least :)

Nguyen · July 22, 2015, 10:35pm

Kronoslogical.
Many thanks for getting this thing going!
Add one Al WW please. If possible, would like to be #81. Thanks.

Kloepper_Knife_Works · July 22, 2015, 11:12pm

ahirshy:

Okay all, this is the position swap list from the first post all the way through to present.

Date Post No Type (Al/CuSS) Requestor From Pos Approver To Pos Status (Pending/Approved/Rejected) Updated (Y/N)

07/11/2015 - 15:41 62 CuSS ahirshy 26 mizjif 13 Rejected N

07/11/2015 - 15:41 62 Al ahirshy 15 djozz 13 Approved N

07/11/2015 - 16:09 66 CuSS mattlward 29 Wrathbringer27/LSX 18/19 Pending N

07/11/2015 - 16:42 67 CuSS abang.tegak Blank 33 Approved Y

07/11/2015 - 16:48 69 CuSS ahirshy Blank 31 Approved Y

07/11/2015 - 21:01 88 Al DanielM 25 Pregulla 22 Approved Y

07/11/2015 - 21:55 91 CuSS B42 Blank 42 Approved Y

07/12/2015 - 05:41 102 CuSS will34 14 Ulibar 28 Approved Y

07/12/2015 - 11:33 112 Al ahirshy 32 Nguyen 31 Approved N

07/12/2015 - 16:34 130 Al iron potato 39 Tinn44 34 Pending (PM Aprv) N

07/12/2015 - 18:54 138 Al nisse Blank 100 Prefill Desire N

07/13/2015 - 00:30 157 CuSS jealous57 20 Sarge930 57 Pending (PM Aprv) N

07/13/2015 - 04:26 162 CuSS sonntag 62 Jmpaul320 55 Pending N

07/13/2015 - 04:26 162 Al sonntag 49 Jescereal 55 Pending N

07/13/2015 - 17:53 178 Al B42 52 Nisse 42 Pending N

07/14/2015 - 18:52 193 Al Nguyen 31 ahirshy 32 Approved N

07/15/2015 - 00:29 205 Al kst Blank 58 Approved Y

07/15/2015 - 03:16 217 Al ReManG 7 djozz 13 Rejected N

07/15/2015 - 12:59 228 Al Kloepper Knife Works Blank 66 Approved Y

07/15/2015 - 12:59 228 Al Kloepper Knife Works Blank 67 Approved Y

07/15/2015 - 21:12 235 Al djozz 13 ahirshy 15 Approved N

07/16/2015 - 09:07 252 Al djozz 15 ReManG 7 Approved (PM Aprv) N

Krono - To start off with you only need to update those with: Status = ‘Approved’ / Updated = ’N’.
After the first update it will only be a case of the new additions to this list which need updating.

All - if there are any above still with Status = ‘Pending’, and it had already been agreed by private PM only, please feel free to PM that individual again and kindly request they post a short Approval of the position swap on the thread for us to record. They could reference your original request post number, else simply which Al/CuSS list and what positions are being moved.

Any mistakes or omissions please let me know.
All position swaps should be discussed and agreed by PM first to help prevent unwanted spam in the thread. Then BOTH parties must post their request AND approval on the thread. I will then endeavour to update the swap list in this post every other evening.

Hope this is useful, please feedback if there is anything I can add or change to make it easier to track.

Keep shining,
Hirsh

kronological:

Please keep in mind that this is an interest list and nothing is written in concrete yet (specs, timeframes etc.)…including no guarantee of S/N assignment. As stated previously, it is likely to be a logisitical nightmare…so please don’t expect it! We will do our best to make it happen, but, ultimately, it is about the lights, not S/N placement.
Keep in mind that these lights will be Serial Numbered…so…the sooner you get you name on the list, the lower the S/N you will receive!

Explanation of why I’ve done this and some caveats to know about the list positions here.

I shouldn’t be in your chart, that post was just asking to be added to the aluminum list for 2 sets in addition to the 3 Al/Cu sets. 66 and 67 just happened to be the numbers the list was at.