Red S2+ flashlight ,for girls,for your lover

Seems like Gearbest took a shortcut towards making a quick buck. IMHO, it appears that they sourced their Convoy S2+ elsewhere than from Simon.

I ordered mine on 10.06.2015, a while before people started to receive different S2+, some got original, others fake ones.

Ive also made pictures of all the things wrong with it and sent PM to CSGearbest here on BLF, lets see whats their take on it.

I also sent pictures of damaged Xiaomi MiBand band teraing apart and they couldnt see anything wrong with it so had to redo pictures to explicitly show where the issue lies.

Also, switch on my fake S2+ is finicky on mid and high ALL MODES - the light will not have constant output, like theres some lack of contact inside the switch thus making it flicker.

Gold blue/purplish tint, damaged anno, LED that is not centered, aluminum switch, cheaper internal parts, no brass retainer ring, dirty threads inside of the head.

So on a happier note, here is the latest from Simon. I guess I’m his unofficial spokesperson LOL. The blue S2+ is going into production. He sent his blue sample to his “manufactory” for production. That should take around a month and then he will be assembling the new blue beauties. He will be selling them on his Ali store once they are ready. Victory is ours! :bigsmile:

Good to hear that :D!

Now, I wonder whether I should request GearBest to resend me original light(given that Sumone received fake one in original box?) or request full refund and simply order red S2+ directly from Simon?

Initially, the $12.99 deal at GearBest was a great buy - I bought one, a friend bought 5 for gifts, etc. -- all were good, except maybe the driver retainer ring wasn't included, but could have to do with the 7135*8 configuration - not sure. Anyway, quality was standard Convoy - brass pill, SS button etc. Then sometimes later, the fakes were being reported, so GB obviously changed sources. You could call it bait&switch, or the usual thing retailers/suppliers do to reduce costs, or make money where they weren't making money before, or was a straight scam by the retailer or supplier - dunno.

Then finally, GB marked the Red S2+ out of stock, now they are back in stock - I assume they are the real ones now? I don't know. I did some serious complaining to GB about their Sharp Eagle XC model (Warsun X60 look-alike) - false advertising of Neutral tint, SS bezel, AR lens, etc., and now I see they show out of stock on that model as well, interesting... Actually I can't find the listing of it anymore... Weird.

All I do know is GearBest has taking stretching the truth to a whole new level. The lumens claims we expect, but all the other claims now is just false advertising - plain and simple. They know what we want and they make sure the listed specs say so, regardless.

Ordered two red S2+’s from Gearbest, one week apart. First one at regular price, second one at $12.99.
Received them one day apart, 2nd one first. First one is genuine, 2nd one a fake.

The body of the fake looks OK, anodize color and the font of the writing is a little off.
Tint of the light is actually not bad, similar to a 3B.
But the emitter and emitter plate were all dirty, glued to the pill with RTV rubber!
Wires are maybe 26#.
No lubricant on the threads.
Pill is aluminum, with an aluminum ring. Ring sits on the tabs of the rear 7135s. Tail cap also has an aluminum ring and contains the rusted steel washer as a spacer. Tail spring is decent, switch looks OK.
The 8x7135 driver is marked 105C, but only has the standard 5-mode set. Soldering the stars does nothing. Hair-thin driver spring that sings with the mid-power PWM. It does manage to pull 2.8 A on a fresh battery.
The switch cap looks like a molded part, may even be plastic. The real one is machined stainless steel.

Opened a ticket with photos showing the disassembled light and the box, was offered a refund or a replacement for the fake.
I was refunded in a few days (GB wallet, not PP, unfortunately).

open a PP dispute.

Marc.

All-in-all the interaction with GB customer service was not bad.
They did not argue the ticket and responded every time within 24 h.
Opened the ticket on 14 July, resolved it on the 15th, had the GB wallet refund on the 20th.
(They also refunded most of the loyalty points used on the the original order - the fake light was part of a larger order.)

I will apply the refund to an order in the next few days and see how that goes.

I bugged him last week asking him if he’d start selling the blue S2+ and bring back the L2. Before that I asked him to sell me the blue sample that he had.

I guess bugging him pays off. Now we need to bug him on getting a L2 replacement with a XHP friendly reflector. :bigsmile:

I have to agree. A store credit for a store that I can’t trust means nothing to me. If you paid with PayPal they should issue a PayPal refund. Sure there is a chance they didn’t know they were selling fakes. The fact is the numbers just happen to work out in their favor by selling half real ones and half fakes. A big enough percentage of the people buying them won’t know the difference so even giving a few refunds they still make a nice profit. This works out even better for them if the few buyers that report it accept store credit as a refund… The whole thing stinks in my opinion.

Indeed. Persistence is key here. I’m sure multiple people asking for the same thing doesn’t hurt. When I responded to him about the blue S2+ I also mentioned that lots of people were asking him to bring back the L2. We’ll see. It did finally work with the S2+. :beer:

So please tell me, if it’s not too OT…

I’m pretty new to Convoy (only having the Real Red S2+ and the L4)… What is it about the L2 that people like so much?

I mean - I really don’t know…

TIA!
-Chuck

I think in order to get Simon to do a run of L2s you’re going to need to do an GB interest thread. There has been much more interest expressed for a blue S2+. Not so much in the L2. Get some interest numbers. If the numbers are there, Simon will do it.

Judging by pictures and size, it was quite a thrower? Better than Jacob A6?

Cobalt Black & Blue Super-L2! :heart_eyes: I can dream!, I can dream!, Dream about you!! :wink:

Everyone who's getting these fakes should be posting over in the GearBest thread.

Lets clean up Simon's thread, & look forward to the Blue S2! :beer:

if i paid via PP and they offered refund will it be store credit or refund on PP?
(i ordered 2 days ago and im scared ill get the fake ones.)

Clearly tell them “I need a PayPal refund. Do not give me store credit or coupon.” And I’d put at the end of every message I sent to them regarding this.

Of course they may still try to give you credit. :expressionless: But at least you were quite clear on the matter.

I used my red S2+ to build a red red-orange amber color mixing light, I don’t know what I’d put into a blue one.

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