Windows 10 discuss - Now with Screen Shots

If you need more time to decide whether 10 is good, bad or ugly, you can either backup the entire HD or run the Easy Transfer wizard and save your profile and documents. Then you can either restore the HD image or reinstall the original OS and transfer your profile back.

KuoH

I have a couple test machines I am installing it onā€¦ i was hoping there would be no metro interface side of itā€¦ I did get the ā€œSomething happenedā€ error just downloading it as an ISOā€¦ is that the new MS Windows error to expect?! lol.

I have bad feelings about all of this.

I sometimes have to go back to windows in order to use automotive diagnostic software. It drives me insane still.

Fired up a windows 7 machine recently, which hadnā€™t been used for some time, and it spent a good 20 minutes installing updates before I could use it.

For everything else, I use Linux Mint. Clean, simple, fast and effective. Oh, and pretty easy too. If OL intends a full wipe and reinstall, I recommend at least trying this before going back to win7.

I installed Windows 10 and I freaking hate it!!!! Luckily I installed it on a new Hard Drive. That said, I put my old HD with Windows 7 back in, and I'm back to normal.

Also, my main OS is OSX Mavericks and Yosemite on my 3 Macs. Never thought I's say this because I've been a Windows user since the early 90's, the mac OS blows away Windows any day of the week

What flavor of Linux do you like? I`m considering Zorin.
People considering Linux might want to start here http://distrowatch.com/

I run straight-up Ubuntu at the moment, but possibly the best option for a new Windows refugee would be the Mate Edition of Ubuntu:

Or if you have any other preferences or special requirements there are a million (almost literally) other options, of which I have used most of them. :slight_smile:

But the thing is, at least the way I understand it, is that Windows will always check to see if it has a valid license, and after upgrading to Windows 10 your license gets marked in Microsoftā€™s database as having been upgraded to Windows 10 and they revoke it for prior versions (after the 1-month grace period.) So even if you restore a disk image, it will contact the MS license server and be rejected.

Or maybe Iā€™m wrong?

Iā€™m really glad you posted this O-L, and Iā€™m glad for otherā€™s opinions as well. I have been considering the upgrade, and now I definitely will leave it alone.

Well, it was obviously intentional. Windows 9 would have been the next good one, and they skipped that number entirely. J) I used to think the bad ones were accidents that just happened to come in a steady rhythm - apparently not!

I use Linux on all my machines at home. Ubuntu is installed in all the laptops and the desktop, and all of our phones are Android. At work, I have to use Windows. I actually kept Windows 7 Home Premium on my laptop as a second OS for a while and liked using it. But, at work, they have Windows 7 Professional and it is a nightmare to use.

Probably the best advertisement for Linux I ever ran across was the old Win XP netbook. Those things had 8GB SSDā€™s and a fully updated Win XP SP3 install required significantly MORE than that! I converted netbooks for two different people who complained that their drives were full, they had no more personal files to delete to make space, and Windows was wanting to install more updates! Ubuntu, with all the apps installed that they could possibly need, left over half the drive for user files! :bigsmile:

Interesting perspective, how long have you been using OSX? Iā€™ve always admired their hardware, but it always seemed a bit overpriced. My, ahem budget alternative is a Thinkpad T-series laptop running Ubuntu. Has all the good looks and pizazz of a Mac, good stability, extremely durable and well-designed hardware, at a pretty nice price.

Yep, Linuxā€™s disk footprint is incredibly small compared to Windows. And thatā€™s with drivers for practically all the supported hardware already pre-installed! Must be due to the use of shared libs, and general geekiness that prefers lean-ā€˜nā€™-mean coding.

+1 Iā€™d take a ThinkPad over just about anything else out there.

Ubuntu is one of the most ā€œbloatedā€ versions you can get, by the way. It amazes me that Microsoft is able to fill up so much space on a hard drive. What are they putting in there?

I've been using OSX since 2002 along with Windows. I love both for different reasons. So I installed Windows 10 with my legal RETAIL activation code from Windows 7 on a brand new HD, it told me my code was no good. That did it for me!. This is after the upgrade failed 5 times on my original Windows 7 install. I'm so fed up right now I want to explode like a bad 18650!!!

I donā€™t know about retail licenses, where you have to type in the actual product key to activate, but many OEMs use BIOS activation where the unique product key isnā€™t ever used when restoring from factory images. I also havenā€™t read anything that mentioned MS will deactivate the key on the OS being upgraded from and they never have in the past, though thatā€™s not to say they canā€™t change their minds.

KuoH

Irritating! Sounds like they only allow free upgrading, not fresh installs.

I want from 8.1 to 10 about 5 minutes ago, having tried it before for a few days with the windows insider program. Feels good and familiar, I donā€™t get the hate here in this forum. No, we should not be using old, unsafe and antequated software just because ā€œit was better back thenā€. When Linux will support my whole 200 game Steam library sure, Iā€™ll give it a chance. Until then Windows is the OS.
Sb, they allow for fresh install after you upgrade to 10.

Thatā€™s part of the reason the 7 to 8 transition was so difficult. There was such a drastic change in the interface design philosophy that made the learning curve rather steep for many, not to mention their decision to force Metro on everyone by default. Sure, you could install a third party app to bring back ā€œmostā€ of the familiarity of the Win 7 desktop, but MS shouldā€™ve included that by default to ease the transition. Now with Win 10, theyā€™re seeing the error of that decision and making the desktop and start menu more Win 7 like. About the only thing I completely despise is the forced patching, given their past history of intermittently breaking working machines. Even some of the Win 10 TP patches rendered some machines unusable.

KuoH

I love 8.1 (i donā€™t use metro, lol) ā€¦ I had thought about going to 10ā€¦. Iā€™ll wait, thanks :smiley: