Lumitak Alphaelite Flashlight: "World's Brightest"

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Lumitak Alphaelite Flashlight: "World's Brightest"

Ran across “the world’s brightest flashlight” today (exaggeratedly low emphasis on that term). Apparently a XML2 T-6 driven at 2 amps and a claimed 1000 lumens is all it takes to be “the world’s brightest.” Flat Stare lumitak.com

I saw the add on Facebook, so of course, I had to take a look. Sure enough, a lot of people seemed to have been buying them and giving pretty good reviews on their Facebook page.

Managed to find the original light on Banggood for $9.89 USD while the Lumitak is charging $59.95!
Lumitak: Alphaelite
Banggood: E3 CREE XM-L T6

Here is the charger they offer at a stiff price of $22.95, while the same one goes on Banggood for $3.49
Lumitak: Battery Dual Charger
Banggood: Battery Dual Charger

The website that is advertising the light is this Downside Survivor that seems to be buying all of banggood’s stuff, and then reselling it. I would imagine that its the same person behind both websites.

Figured this would give you guys a good chuckle! Big Smile

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Don’t you love it. Look around when you’re out eating, in a restaurant or diner. Families with maybe one person without smartphone. Very social in, and to, their media. The only time they speak is when they mumble their order. The rest of the meal goes by in deep silence. Only broken when there is a sharp increase or decrease of the number of likes. You could serve them low-budget microwave dinners. They would not know, their minds are elsewhere. But they buy an overpriced piece of junk. When you’re lucky, you can see them using it. The moment they are in total awe of this heavy liked piece of technology you produce your little BLF A6 SE and you say “Expecto Patronum”. Priceless :bigsmile:

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The moment they are in total awe of this heavy liked piece of technology you produce your little BLF A6 SE and you say “Expecto Patronum”. Priceless :bigsmile:

I usually just pull out my triple XP-L V6 Convoy S6, turn it on high and give them an instant sunburn J)

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I nearly fell off my chair when I read this line:

“Lumitak Fashlights are engineered with precision, dual-lens optical zoom-heads, that utilize a micro-lens directly on the LED chip itself.” Omg, I didn’t know that the LED dome is actually a ‘lens’! :Sp

Well, their website looks ‘promising’, and that can actually trick some average people lol!

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Pres. Abraham Lincoln said: You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.

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Check out the beamshot. Is it just me or does it look like 3 torches are creating that beamshot? The main beam then another just to the left and right of it. Look at the cutoff point at the base of the beam

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Check out the beamshot. Is it just me or does it look like 3 torches are creating that beamshot? The main beam then another just to the left and right of it. Look at the cutoff point at the base of the beam

Itsonlyme: you have one heck of an eye man. I did a quick “reverse image” search on Google and it seems as though this guy stole possibly borrowed the picture from a fellow flashlight guru over on CandlePowerForums TN36 Review

I don’t know if he took those pictures himself, as they are also on a few other websites… but if so, someone should tell him.

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the user bluzie is from germany and member of the “taschenlampenforum”
he uses this location for hundreds of beamshots…

532 here in a single thread

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wow another “Heider” rip-off company renaming cheap lights & lying about the claims to make a ton of money from unsuspecting uneducated buyers..

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M4D M4X wrote:
the user bluzie is from germany and member of the “taschenlampenforum”
he uses this location for hundreds of beamshots…

532 here in a single thread

On TLF he might be known as “bluzie”, on CPF and on BLF he is “amaretto”.

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Amaretto is a user n TLF also Wink

as far as i understand bluzie owns that place and they work together…

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THIS IS HILARIOUS!!

File name for the beamshot image is Warsun A9

But… the actual beamshot is from a Nitecore EAX

From Bluzie’s thread: http://www.taschenlampen-forum.de/beamshot-vergleiche/27575-532-beamshot...

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They got me. I bought one. Didn’t believe the “worlds brightest flashlight” but it seemed like decently quality and a fair price.
This might come as a shock to some of you but I don’t know a ton about flashlights. I have a 2D cell LED Mag-Lite that is OK for what I use it for. I’ve been looking to upgrade for awhile and bought the “worlds brightest” on a whim.

So, after receiving the light and not being impressed with it I jumped on the web and discovered I got ripped off. Hopefully they will accept my return and give me my money back.

With that said, I(and I know this is probably a loaded question), can anyone recommend a legit flashlight for around the same price? I’d be willing to spend a bit more if it means a significan increase in product. Here’s what I’m looking for…

Really bright
I don’t know what it’s called or how to describe it but I like the idea of being able to use it as some type of defense weapon. Not just a smooth round finish on the frame by the lens.
From the little bit of research I did it seems like the rechargeable 18650 batteries seem to be best. (Correct me if I’m wrong).

Thank you in advance for anybody that can help me. it seems like I’ve found the right place to ask these questions.

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Brandaloo wrote:
They got me. I bought one. Didn’t believe the “worlds brightest flashlight” but it seemed like decently quality and a fair price.
This might come as a shock to some of you but I don’t know a ton about flashlights. I have a 2D cell LED Mag-Lite that is OK for what I use it for. I’ve been looking to upgrade for awhile and bought the “worlds brightest” on a whim.

So, after receiving the light and not being impressed with it I jumped on the web and discovered I got ripped off. Hopefully they will accept my return and give me my money back.

With that said, I(and I know this is probably a loaded question), can anyone recommend a legit flashlight for around the same price? I’d be willing to spend a bit more if it means a significan increase in product. Here’s what I’m looking for…

Really bright
I don’t know what it’s called or how to describe it but I like the idea of being able to use it as some type of defense weapon. Not just a smooth round finish on the frame by the lens.
From the little bit of research I did it seems like the rechargeable 18650 batteries seem to be best. (Correct me if I’m wrong).

Thank you in advance for anybody that can help me. it seems like I’ve found the right place to ask these questions.

Welcome to BLF!! Hey don’t worry we all got fool once or twice. What’s important is you’re here and from now on you will get the nice lights (probably a lot more than you need Silly ).

I assume you paid $59.95?

For that price you can get the excellent Nitecore EC4 (MSRP $65 but can be bought for less then $45). One of the brightest and highest quality for the price. 18650 is the most common type of flashlight battery and make sure to get panasonic, sanyo or samsung if you want high quality cells.

I believe you’re looking for a strike bezel, the Olight M18 Striker could be an option. But honestly the best defense weapon is already the light itself, just shine it directly to the eyes, the brightness can temporarily blind and disorientate.

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Brandaloo wrote:
They got me. I bought one. Didn’t believe the “worlds brightest flashlight” but it seemed like decently quality and a fair price.
This might come as a shock to some of you but I don’t know a ton about flashlights. I have a 2D cell LED Mag-Lite that is OK for what I use it for. I’ve been looking to upgrade for awhile and bought the “worlds brightest” on a whim.

So, after receiving the light and not being impressed with it I jumped on the web and discovered I got ripped off. Hopefully they will accept my return and give me my money back.

With that said, I(and I know this is probably a loaded question), can anyone recommend a legit flashlight for around the same price? I’d be willing to spend a bit more if it means a significan increase in product. Here’s what I’m looking for…

Really bright
I don’t know what it’s called or how to describe it but I like the idea of being able to use it as some type of defense weapon. Not just a smooth round finish on the frame by the lens.
From the little bit of research I did it seems like the rechargeable 18650 batteries seem to be best. (Correct me if I’m wrong).

Thank you in advance for anybody that can help me. it seems like I’ve found the right place to ask these questions.


Welcome to BLF!! It’ll be better to start a new thread to introduce yourself and ask questions there as some people may not read this… but never go for lights or batteries with fire in their name maybe except thorfire… You can look up solarforce for better alternatives…

Edit: better still if you are willing to have your lights modded by one of the members of our community Wink

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Brandaloo, check out http://budgetlightforum.com/node/36667

1300-1600 lumens in your back pocket is a good enough defense and at the price it is, you will be impressed. Built to spec by and for the Blf community. No exaggerated claims needed to sell it.
Also look at the Blf X6 and what can be done with it.

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And check out this group buy as well for another type of flashlight, the LuckySun D80, a great light as well, not available yet, but in the very near future it is.

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/36983

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What a welcoming group of people I’ve found. Thank you for all of the kind words and advice. I will be sure to check out all of your suggestions and let you all know what I decide. After finding this place I sucked in to multiple threads with lots of great information. Before I knew I had been looking around for over an hour.
Again, thank you guys very much!

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You probably shouldn’t be looking for “defense” in a flashlight, but the A6 and the D80 for $25 and $20 will massively out perform this cheapo poor output zoomie light they advertise as something unique…but I guess it isn’t a lie, even each dogpile is unique…

PS: your “Ultrafire” batteries are probably the worst of the worst too, cost about $0.25 cents for them to buy (if that) and can be dangerous. I would throw those out and get batteries suggested in the threads on the above lights.

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The Alphaelite Flashlight

Specification Sheet

Maximum Lumens: 1000
***almost certainly not

Battery Type: 18650 Li-Ion (2)
Battery Lifetime: 800 Cycles
***some batteries do last this long, just not the batteries you can buy with this light which tend to last 10 to 100 recharge range.

Run Times 2600mAh: High: 4 Hours, Med: 12 Hours, Low: 38 Hours
***if true max= 343 lumens

(2600mAh*2 Li-Ion/4hours = 1,300 mAh/hr. Cree spec sheet shows 357lumens@1,000mA, 502 lumens@1,500mA. If we take a close estimate as a proportion of current difference, that = about 24 lumens per 100mA over 1,000mA, which = 429 max lumens for this light. Next, you lose 10-20% lumens in most lights to glass and reflector, but this is a tulip edge which eats up more lumens, so if we give it a MASSIVE under estimate of losses and say its -20% only, its a max of 343 lumens.) This is ONLY if its a T5 bin cool white (which it probably isn’t, so its probably less) and ONLY if the driver is efficient (which it probably isn’t with a cheap driver) http://www.cree.com/~/media/Files/Cree/LED%20Components%20and%20Modules/...

***unfortunately this light comes with Ultrafire batteries, so if those runtimes are gotten on inferior lower capacity Ultrafire batteries, it is likely this light only produces 100 to 200 lumens max.

Run Times 3400mAh: High: 6 Hours, Med: 16 Hours, Low: 44 Hours
***see above

LED Driver Board Maximum Forward Current: 2A @ 3.2V
***Math doesn’t work here, plus Li-ions are 3.7V and so the driver should not be running on 3.2V

LED Emitter Type: CREE® XML2 T-6
***Probably not, most cheap lights have T5 emitters or worse. And now there are fake Crees out there with even worse specs, which is very likely in this light.

LED Emitter Lifetime: 50,000 Hours
***see above…who knows how long the fake Cree lasts

Modes: 5 High – Med- Low – Strobe – SoS
Variable Lumens: High: 1000 Med: 600 Low: 300

  • NOT a chance, NO way and NOT likely even for high in this light.

Zoomable: Yes
Lens Type: Aspheric / Convex
Beam Angle: 5º – 120º Max
Maximum Usable Spot Beam Distance: 776 Feet
***unlikely unless you like to see through a tiny square of dim blue light at distance in low light.

Maximum Visible Signal Distance: 2,316 Meters
***see above

Body Type: Aircraft Aluminum
***aluminum is used in aircrafts, so technically sort of correct

Color: Black
Belt Clip: Yes (removable)
***had a cheap one like this which bent easily and became unusable

Wrist Strap: Yes (removable)
***had a cheap one like this and it fell apart rapidly

Switch Type: Tail Cap
Weight: 226g without batteries
Operating Temperature: -20 to 60°C
***not with Ultrafire batteries thats for sure

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Brandaloo; welcome to the community! It sucks feeling like you’ve been ripped-off, but it helped you find this website which hopefully will be worth it. There’s a lot of awesome people here that make retina searing flashlights that make the sun look like a AAA Maglite 8) Newbie questions are always welcome so don’t hesitate to ask (although you may get more info than you bargained for)

Words of advice from a relatively new guy to the forum:

  • Ask a TON of questions. There’s so much info on this website that you could literally spend a lifetime learning about the in’s and out’s of how powerful flashlights work. And it’ll save you money in the long run.
  • UltraFire batteries are bad news; they are falsely advertised and have exploded before. Like will34 said, get some panasonic (my personal favorite), sanyo or samsung batteries. They last longer and work as advertised.
  • There are a few US stores that are worth looking at for your flashlight needs. They may not have a HUGE selection of flashlights, but every single one is “tried and true” so there’s no guesswork on what you’re getting. Check out Mountain Electronics (<— my usual go-to website), and Illumination Supply.
  • There are quite a few international sellers as well. Keep in mind these are in China so it takes a few weeks to get your order. Intl-outdoor is very reputable, Banggood.com has a TON of cool stuff along with Fasttech.com and Gearbest.com These China based retailers don’t always have 100% accurate details on their flashlights, so you’ll pay a LOT less, but it can become a crap-shoot on how powerful the flashlight is going to be compared to what they advertise. Do a little research on what type of emitter they are using, along with how many amps it’s running, and consult this Cree Flashlight Wiki page to see get a better idea of what you’re getting.
  • Be cautious of buying a “host” flashlight. It means that you’ll have to purchase a few extra parts and assemble it yourself (soldering). I started off just buying pre-built flashlights, took them apart, see how they worked and then moved on to the assembling them myself.
  • As far as a self defense flashlight, it really depends on how you want to use it. I prefer a small, handheld light with a pointy bezel on the front so you can crack someone’s skull if need be. Like this…
  • Whereas others like a long flashlight, like a 3D Maglite, and use it like a baseball bat. If that’s the case, Mountain Electronics has a great deal on the Maxtoch M24 Sniper that might work for you.

Like I said, tons of info. Welcome to the addiction hobby Beer Big Smile

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Still cheaper compared to this 100$+ 4pcs ultrafire battery.

46php=1$

http://www.lazada.com.ph/4pcs-ultrafire-18650-37v-4000mah-ic-protected-r...

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Is it possible to request RMM to up the amps in the M23 Sniper?

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I ordered a clone of this light from Amazon, which I was promptly refunded for after stating the not-so-obvious difference between a genuine CREE emitter and the “LatticeBright” or “LB” emitter the light came with. I am trying to replace the electronics of this light with a genuine MT-G2 emitter and a FET driver from mtnElectonics, however, the “reflector” and Teflon spacer provided with this light had to be drilled to accommodate the larger diameter of the emitter…. and I did a terrible job of it, and the “reflector” piece of thin metal is probably now ruined, as it has marks all over it. My question is, can I order replacement parts from somewhere reliable, or, is there a better zoomable host out there that I could get for cheaper than parts plus shipping? Thanks!

I’m new to this…

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The Lumitaky site with that ridiculous light is still online? i;m surprised by now they haven’t seen this topic exposing their scam.

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I tried ordering from Bangood and they cant get it past chinese customs. Any other suggested website? I want this for my husband.

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DBSAR wrote:
The Lumitaky site with that ridiculous light is still online? i;m surprised by now they haven’t seen this topic exposing their scam.

Ah well it could be worse. Saw at Fry’s a year ago a battery charger / flashlight combo with “2000 lumen” output (according to the box). The light source was a single standard 5mm while LED.

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Brandaloo wrote:
What a welcoming group of people I’ve found. Thank you for all of the kind words and advice. I will be sure to check out all of your suggestions and let you all know what I decide. After finding this place I sucked in to multiple threads with lots of great information. Before I knew I had been looking around for over an hour. Again, thank you guys very much!

SLO town, huh? I went to cow Poly in 1970 Silly Brother and his family live there. I miss it.

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The Lumitaky site with that ridiculous light is still online? i;m surprised by now they haven’t seen this topic exposing their scam.

I still see posts on Facebook everyday with dozens of people saying that they purchased the light, and that it’s the brightest light they’ve ever seen. Flat Stare If they only knew! I’ve tried to warn people that they can buy the same light for 1/5th the price on Banggood, but people keep buying Tired

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