So…all the money so many of us sent to help Justin isn’t helping him now? Not sure how happy I am about this.
Disappointing.
Whatever is going on with you OL, I hope it all works out for you mate.
+1 Don’t think we all expect you to drop everything and start spinning new flashlight parts. I know something good will come of this though.
disappointing.
I don’t know what happened, but I hope for the best for both Dale and Justin and their families.
As I understand it the lathe was given without any strings attached and "Old lumens" could do anything he wish with it.
I just wonder why not to keep a lathe when you have the space. I would love to have a lathe, it is a very useful tool, even if you do not make flashlight parts, but I do not have the space.
Does the lathe come with a warranty?
Last post from O-L was he had to fix “bushing”(?), and there were other things he had to make “adjustments”(?) before that. I wondered at that time why O-L did not contact the seller and ask for some relief/adjustments.
I'm thinking the wife had something to do with his decision. That being said, I wish all the best for Justin.
I just figure that whatever had to be done was done, I trust that you guys did your best, with whatever the situation was.
I back Justin 100% in whatever he felt he had to do. I know it had to be a hard decision for him. Once a gift is given, it is up to that person what to do with it.
HOA complaint?
-Chuck
Just as a heads up Dale, I have 3 belts on the way for that lathe. They are on their way to Justin so don’t go buying any.
Bit harsh there Tempo. If you saw his videos, you would have seen his gratitude and loss for words at the generosity of Blf members and suppliers. This was his chance to make a go of making a wage doing something he loved. I’m sure this decision was not one that he took lightly given his joy at receiving it. Let’s not kick the man while he is down. My only sadness is that he didn’t get to use it for its intended purpose which was to help him to make a living. I can’t imagine Dale feels any better having to announce this but we don’t know what has gone on. He may have been forced to get rid of the lathe, we don’t know.
We all have a great deal of respect and affection for Justin, that he well deserves. After all that has gone on, I doubt that he could come to such a decision without a great deal of emotional pain. I expect this was forced on him by circumstances beyond his control. Whether it has something to do with the community where he lives, or for some other reason, and whether he chooses to share about what happened or not, I would like us all to continue to be there for him. Justin is good people. Be well, Justin.
When we give, we should give from the heart. We should as well understand what "Give" means Give with no strings attached. If you are going to attach a string, we need to do that before we give. Justin didn't need anyone's "Approval" to do anything to or with the lathe. Was he to call each time he wanted to use it and ask if that was ok? I would think not. No more than he was to ask approval to hand the machine off to another forum member that wants / needs a lathe and will do quite well with the machine.
Life for others is not always as black & white, as simple, or as expected as it is for many of us. Justin has certainly not lost face with me...and I suspect many others will feel the same. We can all feel as we wish but your public comment made without full knowledge of what made this happen is rude and un-called for sir. I would suggest you edit the post and say "Lost face with ME" . I don't wish to start a war here at all... but this could not be left without comment.
Justin & Dale have done a lot for many on this forum. Either of them are more than due common courtesy. Dan.
Whatever the reason is, it’s probably a good reason.
Otherwise he could have just accepted the money, but right now, he got nothing to show for it. Invested lot’s of time in it, and possibly even money of his own.
I do hope it has nothing to do with health issues or anything.
It’s just sad that the community tried to help and in the end, it did not end up as supposed to.
But I read in his thread he did get a job already so at least that is covered for him.
I do understand people being upset about it, but I doubt this was an easy decision and it must be more upsetting for OldLumens than for us that donated.
If you donate for any other charity, you also don’t know where your money ends up. In this scenario, at least another greatly respected forum member get’s to benefit.
I do hope O-L will explain the reason some time as that probably would make things easier to understand, but for now I wish him the best and hope he will not be ashamed to hang around.
Might have been the Neighborhood Association Turds? Regardless, I hope O.L. and family are alright! Best wishes Justin! And your a good man Dale for taking on the monumental task on such short notice, with everything you have going on in your life!!! 
A gift by definition is something offered with no expectation of reciprocation, it is not a quid pro quo type of arraignment.
I am sure we are all surprised, but as the intention was clear to help OL out no strings attached. We are forced to believe that OL knows what is “best” for OL and so our intention is still being realized (although in a surprising way).
It was made quite clear that any disposition was “approved”. By definition it was all a gift.
Ahh what I ride life gives us.
To OL you owe us no explanation and the most important thing is to understand that you are wanted and that the last thing we want is for you to pull back from being as active as you would like.
I am glad that sb56637 was able to let us know that nothing “bad” has happened.
Phew that is a relief.
I can tell you heads up....Justin struggled with this for days before making his decision. It was not easy for him in any manner. I spoke or e-mailed... or both...with Justin daily during this time. I will leave the specifics to Justin should he decide to provide any. We are all better for what we tried to do and what we gave. Lets let our hearts smile and just enjoy what we did for a good soul. Dan.
Sad to hear that he couldn’t keep it, but glad it went to a good home!
Reason, I don`t need one as one of the donators it was a gift freely given
with no strings attached. My best wishes for O-L
allthumbs
That’s the spirit guys! Many thanks for your kind and supportive comments, I know that’ll do Justin a world of good to read your sentiments.