Old-Lumens Grizzly Lathe---New Chapter, The Saga Continues

I just figure that whatever had to be done was done, I trust that you guys did your best, with whatever the situation was.

I back Justin 100% in whatever he felt he had to do. I know it had to be a hard decision for him. Once a gift is given, it is up to that person what to do with it.

HOA complaint?

-Chuck

Just as a heads up Dale, I have 3 belts on the way for that lathe. They are on their way to Justin so don’t go buying any.

Bit harsh there Tempo. If you saw his videos, you would have seen his gratitude and loss for words at the generosity of Blf members and suppliers. This was his chance to make a go of making a wage doing something he loved. I’m sure this decision was not one that he took lightly given his joy at receiving it. Let’s not kick the man while he is down. My only sadness is that he didn’t get to use it for its intended purpose which was to help him to make a living. I can’t imagine Dale feels any better having to announce this but we don’t know what has gone on. He may have been forced to get rid of the lathe, we don’t know.

We all have a great deal of respect and affection for Justin, that he well deserves. After all that has gone on, I doubt that he could come to such a decision without a great deal of emotional pain. I expect this was forced on him by circumstances beyond his control. Whether it has something to do with the community where he lives, or for some other reason, and whether he chooses to share about what happened or not, I would like us all to continue to be there for him. Justin is good people. Be well, Justin.

When we give, we should give from the heart. We should as well understand what "Give" means Give with no strings attached. If you are going to attach a string, we need to do that before we give. Justin didn't need anyone's "Approval" to do anything to or with the lathe. Was he to call each time he wanted to use it and ask if that was ok? I would think not. No more than he was to ask approval to hand the machine off to another forum member that wants / needs a lathe and will do quite well with the machine.

Life for others is not always as black & white, as simple, or as expected as it is for many of us. Justin has certainly not lost face with me...and I suspect many others will feel the same. We can all feel as we wish but your public comment made without full knowledge of what made this happen is rude and un-called for sir. I would suggest you edit the post and say "Lost face with ME" . I don't wish to start a war here at all... but this could not be left without comment.

Justin & Dale have done a lot for many on this forum. Either of them are more than due common courtesy. Dan.

Whatever the reason is, it’s probably a good reason.
Otherwise he could have just accepted the money, but right now, he got nothing to show for it. Invested lot’s of time in it, and possibly even money of his own.

I do hope it has nothing to do with health issues or anything.

It’s just sad that the community tried to help and in the end, it did not end up as supposed to.
But I read in his thread he did get a job already so at least that is covered for him.

I do understand people being upset about it, but I doubt this was an easy decision and it must be more upsetting for OldLumens than for us that donated.
If you donate for any other charity, you also don’t know where your money ends up. In this scenario, at least another greatly respected forum member get’s to benefit.

I do hope O-L will explain the reason some time as that probably would make things easier to understand, but for now I wish him the best and hope he will not be ashamed to hang around.

Might have been the Neighborhood Association Turds? Regardless, I hope O.L. and family are alright! Best wishes Justin! And your a good man Dale for taking on the monumental task on such short notice, with everything you have going on in your life!!! :beer: :beer:

A gift by definition is something offered with no expectation of reciprocation, it is not a quid pro quo type of arraignment.

I am sure we are all surprised, but as the intention was clear to help OL out no strings attached. We are forced to believe that OL knows what is “best” for OL and so our intention is still being realized (although in a surprising way).

It was made quite clear that any disposition was “approved”. By definition it was all a gift.

Ahh what I ride life gives us.

To OL you owe us no explanation and the most important thing is to understand that you are wanted and that the last thing we want is for you to pull back from being as active as you would like.

I am glad that sb56637 was able to let us know that nothing “bad” has happened.

Phew that is a relief.

I can tell you heads up....Justin struggled with this for days before making his decision. It was not easy for him in any manner. I spoke or e-mailed... or both...with Justin daily during this time. I will leave the specifics to Justin should he decide to provide any. We are all better for what we tried to do and what we gave. Lets let our hearts smile and just enjoy what we did for a good soul. Dan.

Sad to hear that he couldn’t keep it, but glad it went to a good home!

Reason, I don`t need one as one of the donators it was a gift freely given
with no strings attached. My best wishes for O-L
allthumbs

That’s the spirit guys! Many thanks for your kind and supportive comments, I know that’ll do Justin a world of good to read your sentiments.

All the best wishes for OL and DBC :slight_smile:

I am Very sad Justin could not keep it, ..but it couldn't go to a better second home (Dale's).

Best wishes to Justin.

Thank you Very Much to Dale for helping out Justin,

George

i am not sure how i feel about that…

i we tried to help and now it seems that we could not help at all.

i hope Justin can bring a bit light into that story so we can imagine what happened.

I wish for old lumens the good .
i hope he come back with the time and we know what is the trouble.

When I was a kid I used to buy “Bazooka Joe” bubble gum. Inside the wrapper was a little comic strip about some kids.
One strip that I always remembered was when one of the kids was all bandaged up and on crutches. One of the other kids asked him what happened and how did you get injured. The injured kid told him I got this helping a little old lady across the street. His friend asked did you get hit by a car? To which he replied, no it’s because she didn’t want to go!

Sometimes when you think you’re helping someone, actually you’re not.

I’m not disappointed or upset or anything, but in all honestly I do feel everything happened way too quickly and the decision of passing the lathe was made too soon. Of course Justin has the right to do what he thinks is best with his gift, but what we did was never about the lathe, it was to support him in the most helpful way possible. The collective intention and action of the hundreds of members is priceless and this might be a bittersweet experience for some.

I can only wish the best to Justin, hope he is OK and look forward to hear from him.

I remember that one!

A gift is a gift. A serious problem had to raise it’s head; giving up a tool is not something any of us would do easily. I wish the best for OL.