Old-Lumens Grizzly Lathe---New Chapter, The Saga Continues

We all have a great deal of respect and affection for Justin, that he well deserves. After all that has gone on, I doubt that he could come to such a decision without a great deal of emotional pain. I expect this was forced on him by circumstances beyond his control. Whether it has something to do with the community where he lives, or for some other reason, and whether he chooses to share about what happened or not, I would like us all to continue to be there for him. Justin is good people. Be well, Justin.

When we give, we should give from the heart. We should as well understand what "Give" means Give with no strings attached. If you are going to attach a string, we need to do that before we give. Justin didn't need anyone's "Approval" to do anything to or with the lathe. Was he to call each time he wanted to use it and ask if that was ok? I would think not. No more than he was to ask approval to hand the machine off to another forum member that wants / needs a lathe and will do quite well with the machine.

Life for others is not always as black & white, as simple, or as expected as it is for many of us. Justin has certainly not lost face with me...and I suspect many others will feel the same. We can all feel as we wish but your public comment made without full knowledge of what made this happen is rude and un-called for sir. I would suggest you edit the post and say "Lost face with ME" . I don't wish to start a war here at all... but this could not be left without comment.

Justin & Dale have done a lot for many on this forum. Either of them are more than due common courtesy. Dan.

Whatever the reason is, it’s probably a good reason.
Otherwise he could have just accepted the money, but right now, he got nothing to show for it. Invested lot’s of time in it, and possibly even money of his own.

I do hope it has nothing to do with health issues or anything.

It’s just sad that the community tried to help and in the end, it did not end up as supposed to.
But I read in his thread he did get a job already so at least that is covered for him.

I do understand people being upset about it, but I doubt this was an easy decision and it must be more upsetting for OldLumens than for us that donated.
If you donate for any other charity, you also don’t know where your money ends up. In this scenario, at least another greatly respected forum member get’s to benefit.

I do hope O-L will explain the reason some time as that probably would make things easier to understand, but for now I wish him the best and hope he will not be ashamed to hang around.

Might have been the Neighborhood Association Turds? Regardless, I hope O.L. and family are alright! Best wishes Justin! And your a good man Dale for taking on the monumental task on such short notice, with everything you have going on in your life!!! :beer: :beer:

A gift by definition is something offered with no expectation of reciprocation, it is not a quid pro quo type of arraignment.

I am sure we are all surprised, but as the intention was clear to help OL out no strings attached. We are forced to believe that OL knows what is “best” for OL and so our intention is still being realized (although in a surprising way).

It was made quite clear that any disposition was “approved”. By definition it was all a gift.

Ahh what I ride life gives us.

To OL you owe us no explanation and the most important thing is to understand that you are wanted and that the last thing we want is for you to pull back from being as active as you would like.

I am glad that sb56637 was able to let us know that nothing “bad” has happened.

Phew that is a relief.

I can tell you heads up....Justin struggled with this for days before making his decision. It was not easy for him in any manner. I spoke or e-mailed... or both...with Justin daily during this time. I will leave the specifics to Justin should he decide to provide any. We are all better for what we tried to do and what we gave. Lets let our hearts smile and just enjoy what we did for a good soul. Dan.

Sad to hear that he couldn’t keep it, but glad it went to a good home!

Reason, I don`t need one as one of the donators it was a gift freely given
with no strings attached. My best wishes for O-L
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That’s the spirit guys! Many thanks for your kind and supportive comments, I know that’ll do Justin a world of good to read your sentiments.

All the best wishes for OL and DBC :slight_smile:

I am Very sad Justin could not keep it, ..but it couldn't go to a better second home (Dale's).

Best wishes to Justin.

Thank you Very Much to Dale for helping out Justin,

George

i am not sure how i feel about that…

i we tried to help and now it seems that we could not help at all.

i hope Justin can bring a bit light into that story so we can imagine what happened.

I wish for old lumens the good .
i hope he come back with the time and we know what is the trouble.

When I was a kid I used to buy “Bazooka Joe” bubble gum. Inside the wrapper was a little comic strip about some kids.
One strip that I always remembered was when one of the kids was all bandaged up and on crutches. One of the other kids asked him what happened and how did you get injured. The injured kid told him I got this helping a little old lady across the street. His friend asked did you get hit by a car? To which he replied, no it’s because she didn’t want to go!

Sometimes when you think you’re helping someone, actually you’re not.

I’m not disappointed or upset or anything, but in all honestly I do feel everything happened way too quickly and the decision of passing the lathe was made too soon. Of course Justin has the right to do what he thinks is best with his gift, but what we did was never about the lathe, it was to support him in the most helpful way possible. The collective intention and action of the hundreds of members is priceless and this might be a bittersweet experience for some.

I can only wish the best to Justin, hope he is OK and look forward to hear from him.

I remember that one!

A gift is a gift. A serious problem had to raise it’s head; giving up a tool is not something any of us would do easily. I wish the best for OL.

I wasn't really ready to say a lot, but I did sort of shortcut it, when I changed the OP in the other thread. Subtle hints some people do read and the OP hint wasn't so subtle, but that's me.

Yes, life is what it is. Yes, the whole lathe thing has pretty much backfired and also brought to light some other things in life, that were probably best off not thinking about or bringing to the surface. Well, now they are on the surface and it is what it is. I decided that I will never make use of the lathe, for several reasons. Some are beyond my control and some are reasons like truly realizing that for me, hand made means hand made and adding a machine to it, is meaningless to me personally. Not gratifying and not meaningful, in a hand made atmosphere.

With all the things that have come about, they have built up to the point where I knew the lathe was leaving and I decided to make sure a member of BLF got it. A member who would make use of it, a member who has done a lot for the forum and is active in it and a member who is well liked here, as well as close to where I live. I believe I picked the best possible member, who is close enough to me, to pick it up.

My choice, my decision, the way it is. Be kind to Dale, it wasn't his fault, LOL. I dumped it in his plate so to speak.

I don't have much else to say. Enough said. I need to chill.

OL, obviously this is a difficult situation for you, but I hope you still feel comfortable here.

I wish you the best in whatever is going on in your life right now.

Hey there Justin, thanks for checking in here! I’m sure you did the right thing given the circumstances, and I know it wasn’t a decision that you took lightly. Thanks for making sure the lathe went to a good home. Take care, and enjoy the rest of your Sunday!

Whatever the reason or reasons, I am sure it was not at all in the plans when this whole thing started.

I am fine with Dale or anyone else in the forum getting the lathe and my donation is good for the cause not just for the person. I wish the best of luck to Justin and support his decision . I wish the best of luck to Dale and hope the lathe serves him well as I know once he figures it out there will be works of art in the making with the skills he already has with flashlights.

I really just hope everyone can see that this was all for a good cause, and still is, and just let it go at that and knowing it is still in the forum family and will be used for the members here any way it goes.