BLF Designed Budget Thrower GB Question

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I’m late to this thread, probably because I’m not much into throwers lately, but I’m with you, and especially for the idea of a small light that is very bright and throws huge. That would be more “special” than a huge light that throws well IMO.

The Jacob A60 has a nice structural design also with the “light engine” section, so it might make a good base for something like that.

My vote goes to a single 18650/26650 or even a single 18350 dedicated thrower.

For a 18650/26650 light the A60 seems ok, although the golden rule with throwers is “the larger the reflector the better the throw”. The A60 head diameter is 55mm, so the reflector itself will be 50mm at best.

Alternatives: Maxtoch M12. Not cheap, but high quality. Mine does with dedomed XM L2 and LD1 driver around 235Kcd.
If and only IF the reflector works well with a dedomed XP G2, this light could reach as much as 375Kcd.

Alternatives: the light shown previously in this thread - single 18650 from Ali Express. Again, depending on reflector diameter and how well it works with a dedomed XP G2. Provided the heat transfer is or can be easily made adequate.

Just a “warning” from my own experiences: the reflector size is no guarantee: the reflector has to be able to work well with the dedomed led you will be using.
In my BTU STR1 (yes the fugly light with all those cooling fins) a perfectly centrered dedomed XP G2 and a LD2 driver could not get it above 340Kcd. The spot was still too big, almost as big as with a dedomed XM L2.
On the other hand, my Courui D01 “Big Head” (LD2, 5A) does 361Kcd with dedomed XM L2 and fully charged Efest IMR2500 purple.

That light has a bigger reflector, but not that much bigger and the spots are same size.
If this reflector works well with a dedomed XP G2 (and from other posts in this forum I do believe it does :slight_smile: it could potentially reach as much as 550-600Kcd. With a tiny, tiny hotspot, that is.

Grtz
Nico

MAXTOCH Dedomed 2X, 1000Meters Thrower, 280Klux, let me know if there’s any interest in it. :beer:

Only if it begins life “Domeless” with a XP-L HI.

I really prefer a more “normal” tint - Not Green.

Thanks,
-Chuck

It’s dedomed U2. I think it’s tint is quite normal then…

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A Maxtoch flashlight would be a great quality light, worthy of a BLF-version, but I'm not sure if it would be really budged, I think the idea would be under $25 or $30 the most.

I knew you have a hunting potential m8! I knew it

Yes we know its an OK flashlight, but its problem is that its too heavy for 227 and 223/ even 3006 caliber based rifles…not everybody lives in Australia, and not everybody has a guy to carry his backpack/10kg rifle while hunting :bigsmile:

Fandyfire stl-v6 is available around the $25-$30 mark.

Simply changing the design of the body and head, using high quality components and a modern emitter should net somewhere around 250-300k lux.

Could probably get a group buy done for around the $30 mark I’d say.

Chris

I want budget thrower for 25-30$.

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So do I, but I don’t think that it’s going to throw very well for that price.

I’d like to have a $30 Pocket-Thrower, and a $60 Big-Head Thrower.

Low price is good, but you have to pay for what things cost. - Even the little A6 is $25, so $25-$30 is not going to buy you much of a thrower.

Thank you,
-Chuck

Well, the Courui DO1 is only 30$ and that is a very good host - so why 60$?

I’m a bit sad that my opinion doesn’t fit the majority here.
Most of BLF Members want a 12 Mode driver with 4 different Moonlight modes and either extremely cold white or warm white.

I want a decent 3 Mode driver without Moonlight and a ~5000K LED for not more than 30$, better a lot less. At best with 26650 battery.

Why spend more than double as much the C8 cost for only a little bit more throw?
The same with the DO1.

We should make a “XP-G2 / XM-L2 / XPL on Noctigon in different bins and diameters”-GB and some GBs for “Bang for the Buck”-drivers (Like the 3 Mode Nanjg with FET-mod).

Well, Jacob A60 was decent thrower(and still is!) and it was selling for 11$ while still in stock!

So, I believe, good thrower in 25-30$ ballpark IS possible.

And yes, make it simple, 3 modes will be just fine - medium, high, turbo. If someone wants more, OK, add ultra low, like 5lm and thats it :D!

I would buy the A60 - but not with a XR-E.
At least a XP-G2 @ 3 Amps or so.

Well, the Courui DO1 for a little over $30 is Exactly what I want too, except that it is not anywhere Ready to do what I want for that price.

http://www.gearbest.com/led-flashlights/pp_85126.html

I would like to have some decent heatsinking that will allow for continuous output with Flat regulation on High. - Yes, 3 modes is Ideal… Maybe, 200lm - 600lm and 1500lm. - XP-L HI “5000K (properly focused).

The 3 cells should be run in series, so as to not have the problem of the Direct Drive runtime slope seen with the parallel Olight SR52 UT. - I would buy the Olight right now, if it were regulated in High…. It is said that because the slope is so gradual that you will not notice that the light is dimming down, which is true, But each time you head out the door and run it for 5mins, it will be dimmer than the last time you used it, until you recharge. - I really hate to hear those excuses, like: “Well, it’s really quite a bit brighter than you see here - It just needs to be charged.” . Design the driver properly, and you don’t have that problem.

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?405634 The Acebeam runs in Flat regulation.

Vinh will sell a Acebeam K40L dressed out like I have outlined above for $140, but I would Much rather get something like it for $60.

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?400766-K40Lvn-The-Must-Have-Thrower

I don’t have modding skills, so that is a problem… If I did I could just make one myself from the Courui, but what would it cost me to do it? - $60… More?

I really don’t see us as being all that far apart on what we want, just on what it will cost.

Thank you, and have a great day,
-Chuck

Pick a cd rating and go from there.

A c8 will do 150,000 cd for well under $30.

An stl-v6 or hd2010 will do near 300,000 cd for maybe $40

Jacobs a60 in stock for is extremely hard to mod, but mine does 220,000cd for maybe $20

Something in the middle maybe?

Chris

Where were you seeing this for $25-$30?