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I want budget thrower for 25-30$.

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vēer wrote:
I want budget thrower for 25-30$.

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So do I, but I don’t think that it’s going to throw very well for that price.

I’d like to have a $30 Pocket-Thrower, and a $60 Big-Head Thrower.

Low price is good, but you have to pay for what things cost. – Even the little A6 is $25, so $25-$30 is not going to buy you much of a thrower.

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Well, the Courui DO1 is only 30$ and that is a very good host – so why 60$?

I’m a bit sad that my opinion doesn’t fit the majority here.
Most of BLF Members want a 12 Mode driver with 4 different Moonlight modes and either extremely cold white or warm white.

I want a decent 3 Mode driver without Moonlight and a ~5000K LED for not more than 30$, better a lot less. At best with 26650 battery.

Why spend more than double as much the C8 cost for only a little bit more throw?
The same with the DO1.

We should make a “XP-G2 / XM-L2 / XPL on Noctigon in different bins and diameters”-GB and some GBs for “Bang for the Buck”-drivers (Like the 3 Mode Nanjg with FET-mod).

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Well, Jacob A60 was decent thrower(and still is!) and it was selling for 11$ while still in stock!

So, I believe, good thrower in 25-30$ ballpark IS possible.

And yes, make it simple, 3 modes will be just fine – medium, high, turbo. If someone wants more, OK, add ultra low, like 5lm and thats it :D!

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I would buy the A60 – but not with a XR-E.
At least a XP-G2 @ 3 Amps or so.

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Well, the Courui DO1 for a little over $30 is Exactly what I want too, except that it is not anywhere Ready to do what I want for that price.

http://www.gearbest.com/led-flashlights/pp_85126.html

I would like to have some decent heatsinking that will allow for continuous output with Flat regulation on High. – Yes, 3 modes is Ideal… Maybe, 200lm – 600lm and 1500lm. – XP-L HI “5000K (properly focused).

The 3 cells should be run in series, so as to not have the problem of the Direct Drive runtime slope seen with the parallel Olight SR52 UT. – I would buy the Olight right now, if it were regulated in High…. It is said that because the slope is so gradual that you will not notice that the light is dimming down, which is true, But each time you head out the door and run it for 5mins, it will be dimmer than the last time you used it, until you recharge. – I really hate to hear those excuses, like: “Well, it’s really quite a bit brighter than you see here – It just needs to be charged.” . Design the driver properly, and you don’t have that problem.

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?405634 The Acebeam runs in Flat regulation.

Vinh will sell a Acebeam K40L dressed out like I have outlined above for $140, but I would Much rather get something like it for $60.

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?400766-K40Lvn-The-Mus...

I don’t have modding skills, so that is a problem… If I did I could just make one myself from the Courui, but what would it cost me to do it? – $60… More?

I really don’t see us as being all that far apart on what we want, just on what it will cost.

Thank you, and have a great day,
-Chuck

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Pick a cd rating and go from there.

A c8 will do 150,000 cd for well under $30.

An stl-v6 or hd2010 will do near 300,000 cd for maybe $40

Jacobs a60 in stock for is extremely hard to mod, but mine does 220,000cd for maybe $20

Something in the middle maybe?

Chris

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crnkin wrote:
Fandyfire stl-v6 is available around the $25-$30 mark.

Simply changing the design of the body and head, using high quality components and a modern emitter should net somewhere around 250-300k lux.

Could probably get a group buy done for around the $30 mark I’d say.

Chris

Where were you seeing this for $25-$30?

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This is a group buy thread,

The more we buy, the less we pay.

The light is not currently $25-$30.

Chris

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I’m definitely waiting to see where this might go. I would definitely be interested in a custom BLF thrower!

It would be nice to see it as a 1×18650 with an optional adapter to lengthen the tube to accept 2×18650.

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What about a Jax Z1?
We at CPF (Italy) are trying to make a GB with Neal/Banggood with this torch.
The specs are:
XP-L HIGH INTENSITY
Copper MCPCB with Direct Thermal Path
Turbo mode 3,5A with step-down 3 min. "CPF Italia" engraved 947 Lumens3A (so not the 3,5 promised…they are working for more amps!)
Lux: 128000cd
Throw: 715m

If you want to take a look at the prototype, here is the link: Review Jax Z1
It’s in italian language, but there are a looot of photos. All kudos to Cyberscudo, the author of the nice review Smile

The only f***g problem is the price…not for my wallet :_(

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i skyped today with Celia from shenzhen-wholesale.

company policy says: no free samples

but one can buy a light, check its quality and then we can start negotiate the changes and price.
or try to get it as host…

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SKU 10637: 31.00USD If ship to Austria, DHL shipping cost: 20

Paypal payment is OK

yes, if comes to the deal, sample charge will be refunded

anyone take one for the team?

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I would be in for a single 18650 A60 type of light.

BLF Community Battery Pull Thread http://budgetlightforum.com/node/32720

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My HD2010 55mm reflector, XM-L2 de-domed, 6.2 amps on Purple Efest 26650 148kcd. My Courui 68mm reflector FETDD (3) vtc5 XP-L HI 5700k 70cri 283kcd Courui 5000k 70cri 268kcd and my Courui de-domed XP-L can’t remember which? 306kcd. All the same resistance mods and drivers, on the vtc5 batteries, and the reflectors are on the boards, no centering rings. My Vinh modded TK61V4 measure’s 666kcd not the claimed 740kcd so take it for what it’s worth?

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BLF FET driver + XP-L HI + big SMO reflector = Love Love Love Love Love Love Love Love Love Love Love Love

Make it happen! A JAX-style zoomie would be cool too.

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Max I’m willing to pay for a decked out BLF dedicated thrower would be $80. Why I’m willing to place my price point so high is because I am sure that I am getting a quality light with an awesome driver…

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Jacob A60 size thrower with FET driver and XP-L HI would be great.

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How about the new convoy L2?

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+1 Wrathbringer27!

I have a lot of lights that just leave me with wanting more.

If $30 is all some can afford, then I do understand and hope that we make one. – I will buy one too!

I however, want a really Good Thrower, not a modded C8 class light… Something above 250KCD with a Genuine XP-L HI. – Oh! – and with Flat regulation to boot!

Not gonna be cheap, I know, but it’s cheaper than 5 more lights that just don’t deliver what I want.

Thanks,
-Chuck

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Very new to this, but I’d be more interested in something special that does more. And if price needs to go up then so be it – I hate that ‘wanting more’ feeling.

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Manx wrote:
What about a Jax Z1?
We at CPF (Italy) are trying to make a GB with Neal/Banggood with this torch.
The specs are:
XP-L HIGH INTENSITY
Copper MCPCB with Direct Thermal Path
Turbo mode 3,5A with step-down 3 min. "CPF Italia" engraved 947 Lumens3A (so not the 3,5 promised…they are working for more amps!)
Lux: 128000cd
Throw: 715m

If you want to take a look at the prototype, here is the link: Review Jax Z1
It’s in italian language, but there are a looot of photos. All kudos to Cyberscudo, the author of the nice review Smile

The only f***g problem is the price…not for my wallet :_(

Looks like you need a login to see the review :)…

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chuckhov wrote:
+1 Wrathbringer27!

I have a lot of lights that just leave me with wanting more.

If $30 is all some can afford, then I do understand and hope that we make one. – I will buy one too!

I however, want a really Good Thrower, not a modded C8 class light… Something above 250KCD with a Genuine XP-L HI. – Oh! – and with Flat regulation to boot!

Not gonna be cheap, I know, but it’s cheaper than 5 more lights that just don’t deliver what I want.

Thanks,
-Chuck


+1 to you too! I want a fully capable light! Something that has the capability of something else priced 3 times more! Maybe design wise it’s ugly but it’s awesomely capable, I will still take it! Wink

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M4D M4X wrote:
i skyped today with Celia from shenzhen-wholesale.

company policy says: no free samples

but one can buy a light, check its quality and then we can start negotiate the changes and price.
or try to get it as host…

Quote:
SKU 10637: 31.00USD If ship to Austria, DHL shipping cost: 20

Paypal payment is OK

yes, if comes to the deal, sample charge will be refunded

anyone take one for the team?

I might be able to get one but its not 100% yet! Will see in a couple of days…

 

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crnkin wrote:
Pick a cd rating and go from there.

A c8 will do 150,000 cd for well under $30.

An stl-v6 or hd2010 will do near 300,000 cd for maybe $40

Jacobs a60 in stock for is extremely hard to mod, but mine does 220,000cd for maybe $20

Something in the middle maybe?

Chris

HD2010 with XPL or XML2 near 300 kcds ?? Shocked :~

Sorry for my bad English…

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What about something entirely different? What about a recoil type of a design using an XPL and a heat pipe and a 60 or 80 mm reflector? That design has a far reaching and intense beam.

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1st surface reflectors are a bit spendy about $20 – $22 for 75mm Anchor Optics

Maybe if we bought as a group buy they could make us an enhanced aluminum 1 st surface reflector at a nice price. Some limited production runs are as low as $13.

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chuckhov wrote:
+1 Wrathbringer27!

I have a lot of lights that just leave me with wanting more.

If $30 is all some can afford, then I do understand and hope that we make one. – I will buy one too!

I however, want a really Good Thrower, not a modded C8 class light… Something above 250KCD with a Genuine XP-L HI. – Oh! – and with Flat regulation to boot!

Not gonna be cheap, I know, but it’s cheaper than 5 more lights that just don’t deliver what I want.

Thanks,
-Chuck


I hear you, even though Id like this light to be really impressive, yet budget thrower, wouldnt mind seeing V2 as almost-no compromise light.

And yes, make it fully regulated with decent turbo and good stepdown to decent high for that regardless if its 30$ or 70$, is this possible?

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Looks like you need a login to see the review Smile

Argh! you are right! Shocked

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BLF FET driver + XP-L HI + big SMO reflector. Make it happen! A JAX-style zoomie would be cool too.

That is the way the guys at italian CPF are working. A FET driver + 7135, the same of Manker X6.
Stay tuned :bigsmile:

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Well, we do have UF 1504 and 1503 at quite a temting price, an A17DD based 1503 do easy 250k mcds 1504

The one thing that we dont have is a nice 18650 55-60mm reflector based thrower, rifle mountable, light- 250gr tops, kinda pocketable too
That hd2010B will do the trick, ESPECIALY if a host only – engraving free ofc, on ultra, unique, tesla or godsfire…boored of those “something-fire based” flashlights….

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Well I was having a chat with Jack via email who seems to be much more open to sending a sample but Celia has taken over all conversations saying she is in charge of this groupbuy so I think we need to look elsewhere.

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