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Chuck and I are in total agreement. That’s the idea behind this thread. Any other group buy ideas are great ideas also and we would participate in those group buys also.

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Come on , Guys… I have no modding skills, and every time I look at that link that I posted, I get antsy. – But I know that the stock version could never please me.

why don’t you learn? it’s not that hard to get started :bigsmile:

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Come on , Guys… I have no modding skills, and every time I look at that link that I posted, I get antsy. – But I know that the stock version could never please me.

why don’t you learn? it’s not that hard to get started :bigsmile:

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Good question – Thank for it…

I have taken lights apart to the point where I could see the bare emitter (barely”-), the 7135’s on the driver, etc.

I can’t even Imagine working on anything that tiny – actually applying heat with a soldering iron.

I’m 66yrs old and I know that I really should at least try, or else, what is the point to continue living? – Right?

It’s just that my modding skills are really not the topic here – What we want as a Group is!

Let’s do a modded Courui D01:-)

Thank you,
-Chuck

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Let’s do a modded Courui D01:-)

I’m with Chuck on this one.
It has room to move and I may even try mod of the one I already have.
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I can’t wait you guy’s! Party How are we going to want this Courui MODDED? Shocked Are we going to ask for a shouldered aluminum pill with a 32mm stepped and centered pocket (for a Noctigon 32mm XP-L mcpcb board and drilled and tapped so it can be screwed down) then pressed into the body for better thermal transfer, and the reflector bottom to be machined and cleared so as not to sit on the leads and short out? Putting the reflector on the board for possibly the most almost perfect focus? The driver pcb to be screwed to down to the body for better Earth contact? What about the driver? FETDD 6 mode or moppydrv? How about the battery spring pcb? Anodizing cleared where mounted and the Springs bypassed and the back of the pcb, resistance modded with heavy awg copper wire connecting the 3 springs and also resistance modding the traces, a lock out push button switch under the tail cap, for safety? Just asking cause that’s the way I would want to do it? :bigsmile: Or is that a bit much? :~

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Point taken.

I know that you have modded more that one of these, and know the ropes.

So, even though your hot-rod might be prohibitively expensive, do you have any advice for us, in order to get a ‘good’ output without driving them to the Max?

I’m really serious about this.

I would want the cells to be in Series, and to provide a minimum of 250KCD, with FLAT regulation. -Do you think that this is possible for $60?

I do respect you, and greatly value your imput on this.

Thank you.
-Chuck

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I can’t wait you guy’s! Party How are we going to want this Courui MODDED? Shocked Are we going to ask for a shouldered aluminum pill with a 32mm stepped and centered pocket (for a Noctigon 32mm XP-L mcpcb board and drilled and tapped so it can be screwed down) then pressed into the body for better thermal transfer, and the reflector bottom to be machined and cleared so as not to sit on the leads and short out? Putting the reflector on the board for possibly the most almost perfect focus? The driver pcb to be screwed to down to the body for better Earth contact? What about the driver? FETDD 6 mode or moppydrv? How about the battery spring pcb? Anodizing cleared where mounted and the Springs bypassed and the back of the pcb, resistance modded with heavy awg copper wire connecting the 3 springs and also resistance modding the traces, a lock out push button switch under the tail cap, for safety? Just asking cause that’s the way I would want to do it? :bigsmile: Or is that a bit much? :~

Don’t forget putting this reflector on it as part of the BLF SE.
86.2mm(D) x 84.7mm(H} SMO Aluminum Reflector for SST-90 / SBT-90 / SBT-70
- Suitable for SST-90 / SBT-90 / SBT-70

Material: Aluminum Textured / SMO Reflector

Dimension: 86.2mm (Dia.) x 84.7mm(H}

Emitter hole diameter: 19.6mm

Weight: 35g

Package Content: 1 x SMO Reflector

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I fear that I will be dead and gone before we can ever get serious about this.

I won’t add anything more here, as you guys already know what I want.

Let’s get the ball rolling!

Even if is not Exactly what I want, WE are a Team, and I will go with what the majority says… As much as I hate too Sad

Thanks,
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chuckhov wrote:
Point taken. I know that you have modded more that one of these, and know the ropes. So, even though your hot-rod might be prohibitively expensive, do you have any advice for us, in order to get a 'good' output without driving them to the Max? I'm really serious about this. I would want the cells to be in Series, and to provide a minimum of 250KCD, with FLAT regulation. -Do you think that this is possible for $60? I do respect you, and greatly value your imput on this. Thank you. -Chuck

In order to use 3 batteries in series you will need a good battery carrier which is not going to be cheap. In my opinion you can keep parallel setting and still get 250 KCD. My modded courui throws 850 m easy. That was the only open space I could find so maybe it throws even farther. It pushes xm-l2 to 5A (Samsung 25R) and run times are excellent.

What You need to consider to make a budget thrower with courui is:

1. Customized bottom of reflector in order to sit on the MCPCB

2. Copper MCPCB

3. 18 or 20 AWG wires

4. Integrated pill or maybe even copper one instead of aluminuim one.

5. Braided springs

6. LD-2 or FET driver

7. Tailcap button

8. Emitter of your choice (dedomed)

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I think kawiboy should just buy a hundred D01’s and mod them like he posted above, then sell them to us. That mod and spec list sounds perfect.

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Theres lots of talk about the D01. I have an issue with this… The quality on this light is a gamble. I’ve recently bought 2 Couruis from Gearbest and I’m really not impressed by the quality. Very rough machining, the lights are dirty, and the one actually had the branding cleared out with a black pen – can you believe it! I’ll post photos if there’s interest. So, if its going to be the D01 somebody will have to make sure the quality control is up to scratch…

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“So, if its going to be the D01 somebody will have to make sure the quality control is up to scratch…”

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That should go without saying with any manufacturer. – I wouldn’t be a bit surprised that Gearbest had something to do with it too. – Maybe buying less that 1st quality?… Every manufacturer has some 2nds, and also some rejects. – But I dunno.

The Gearbest picture sure is Purdy, but so far I have kept my finger from hitting the button, because I do know that in an unmodded form it would never please me.

But a Properly modded D01 – If it can be done, I’m All For It!

Thanks,
-Chuck

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If you can do your own machining, soldering, and driver build meaning piggy back the fet driver to the original board it is totally do able for $60.0-$70.0 but this would mean having access to a mill and or lathe to machine the pill to be pressed in or as I do heat shrink them into the body of the light. We have seen over 300 kcd with a dedome xp-l high density not the new ones (v5-a1). Kawiboy is spot on here, or you can remove the two R100 and just bridge them and that should jump you at least 50 kcd in its self. With the full mod this will blow away a stock tk 61 and you know what they cost. Thanks for listening guys take your time do a lot of reading you will be surprised what you can do.!

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Hi chuckhov, it seems like this thrower groupbuy is not gonna happen anytime soon due to too many different opinions flooding in. If you really want this Courui D01 modded as a beast eagerly, why don’t you just ask one of the best modders around here to build one for you? That would be faster and not to mention that the light will be 100% customized to your own preference.

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I think that might be a great plan, though I would prefer for all of us to have input into it’s design and implementation.

How ever fragmented we are at the moment, it’s my hope that eventually our ideas will coalesce into a workable solution.

The D01 is just my idea for a budget platform for this BLF SE.

Just wanting a light, I would ask Vinh to mod a Acebeam K40L with XP-L HI – Simple solution if you happen to have $140 lying about, not earmarked for general survival Smile

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?400766-K40Lvn-The-Mus...

To one-off mod a D01 to the level that we are talking about would be cost prohibitive.

To be affordable it would have to be a Labor of Love, which means that I would have to somehow develop the skills to do it myself, cuz nobody loves me… Sad (sniffle)

Thanks,
-Chuck

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Mmm, maybe not… Any of the big modder willing to give Chuck some Love…! :~

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Not trying to hijack the thread here or anything, but I am trying to get an already great light at a decent price in a GB for the Maxtoch M24 sniper with XM-L HI in it. It is already an awesome thrower but with the new emitter in it I think it will do even better. Already have the green light from Maxtoch and it should happen pretty quick without a lot of waiting and hassel to get this light out and done when the minimums are reached.

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Maxtoch M24 Sniper / Maxtoch 2X Shooter (2016 factory dedomed) , 2X - XHP 70.2 / Maxtoch Xsword / M1 Archer *** ### ThruNite // Archer 2A V3 / Ti4T / TN4A HI / TH10 / TH20 / C2 Mini / TC12 V2 / T01 /  , neutron 2C V3 , TC20 / Catapult V6 / TC15 / TC15 CE *** ###  Olight // H2R Nova , S10R III / S30R III / H1 Nova / H1 R Nova / X7 Marauder , PL Mini ,  M2R warrior //// Orca T11 / Nitecore EC20 / BLF A6 / Custom Convoy C8 / Lixada Triple 3800LM / Lixada 1000LM / LuxStone X30 / Manker E02 / Manker E14 II /  ### Thorfire /// PF03PF04 , Upgraded PF04 , C8 , S-50 ,  VG-10 , VG25 , C8s , BL30 , TK4A  , S1 , VG15 S  , TK 18 //// ##WowTac// A4 , A1 (original) , A2 headlamp , A3 //// Acebeam L16 /// Massdrop (Lumintop) Brass EDC

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shrick wrote:
Mmm, maybe not… Any of the big modder willing to give Chuck some Love…! :~

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LOL! (really) – You made me laugh!

Thanks!
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Mmm, maybe not… Any of the big modder willing to give Chuck some Love…! :~

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LOL! (really) – You made me laugh!

Thanks!
-Chuck

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Not trying to hijack the thread here or anything, but I am trying to get an already great light at a decent price in a GB for the Maxtoch M24 sniper with XM-L HI in it. It is already an awesome thrower but with the new emitter in it I think it will do even better. Already have the green light from Maxtoch and it should happen pretty quick without a lot of waiting and hassel to get this light out and done when the minimums are reached.

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This one, only with XP-L HI?

http://www.mtnelectronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=80&pr...

Nice light!

We could have a GB for this Maxtoch, and still “build” our very own BLF Thrower too, couldn’t we?

Thanks!
-Chuck

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chuckhov wrote:
robo819 wrote:
Not trying to hijack the thread here or anything, but I am trying to get an already great light at a decent price in a GB for the Maxtoch M24 sniper with XM-L HI in it. It is already an awesome thrower but with the new emitter in it I think it will do even better. Already have the green light from Maxtoch and it should happen pretty quick without a lot of waiting and hassel to get this light out and done when the minimums are reached.

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This one, only with XP-L HI?

http://www.mtnelectronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=80&pr...

Nice light!

We could have a GB for this Maxtoch, and still “build” our very own BLF Thrower too, couldn’t we?

Thanks!
-Chuck

Yes that’s the one.

Click any link to see MY REVIEWS:

Maxtoch M24 Sniper / Maxtoch 2X Shooter (2016 factory dedomed) , 2X - XHP 70.2 / Maxtoch Xsword / M1 Archer *** ### ThruNite // Archer 2A V3 / Ti4T / TN4A HI / TH10 / TH20 / C2 Mini / TC12 V2 / T01 /  , neutron 2C V3 , TC20 / Catapult V6 / TC15 / TC15 CE *** ###  Olight // H2R Nova , S10R III / S30R III / H1 Nova / H1 R Nova / X7 Marauder , PL Mini ,  M2R warrior //// Orca T11 / Nitecore EC20 / BLF A6 / Custom Convoy C8 / Lixada Triple 3800LM / Lixada 1000LM / LuxStone X30 / Manker E02 / Manker E14 II /  ### Thorfire /// PF03PF04 , Upgraded PF04 , C8 , S-50 ,  VG-10 , VG25 , C8s , BL30 , TK4A  , S1 , VG15 S  , TK 18 //// ##WowTac// A4 , A1 (original) , A2 headlamp , A3 //// Acebeam L16 /// Massdrop (Lumintop) Brass EDC

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$67.99
Where is this a ““budget”“ light?

Then we could use the TrustFire X9 as well

I think that the Courui is a great host – but not suitable for this group buy because too many people already have it.
Why not the Yezl Y3?

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L4M4 wrote:
$67.99
Where is this a ““budget”“ light?

Then we could use the TrustFire X9 as well

I think that the Courui is a great host – but not suitable for this group buy because too many people already have it.
Why not the Yezl Y3?

$58.50 including shipping if we reach 100 units (possibly a few dollars less if we can get even higher numbers) that’s with the XP-L HI already installed and really no further mods needed

Click any link to see MY REVIEWS:

Maxtoch M24 Sniper / Maxtoch 2X Shooter (2016 factory dedomed) , 2X - XHP 70.2 / Maxtoch Xsword / M1 Archer *** ### ThruNite // Archer 2A V3 / Ti4T / TN4A HI / TH10 / TH20 / C2 Mini / TC12 V2 / T01 /  , neutron 2C V3 , TC20 / Catapult V6 / TC15 / TC15 CE *** ###  Olight // H2R Nova , S10R III / S30R III / H1 Nova / H1 R Nova / X7 Marauder , PL Mini ,  M2R warrior //// Orca T11 / Nitecore EC20 / BLF A6 / Custom Convoy C8 / Lixada Triple 3800LM / Lixada 1000LM / LuxStone X30 / Manker E02 / Manker E14 II /  ### Thorfire /// PF03PF04 , Upgraded PF04 , C8 , S-50 ,  VG-10 , VG25 , C8s , BL30 , TK4A  , S1 , VG15 S  , TK 18 //// ##WowTac// A4 , A1 (original) , A2 headlamp , A3 //// Acebeam L16 /// Massdrop (Lumintop) Brass EDC

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Hi chuckhov, I think if you approach any USA modders they will be more than willing to help you out on this one (yes, some loves for you!). Big Smile

L4M4, Yezl Y3 is actually not a bad idea for us to start with.

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I have the Trustfire X9, it is too big: pointless extra length, pointless extra weight, nothing special about it.   I'm not sure if that's the same for the Maxtoch, but at least it is too expensive.

Perhaps we should go a step further than even with the BLF A6, wether it will be a big Courui style light or the compact thrower. Manker was able to reproduce the EE A6 but having the cut-out for the clip newly designed was already troublesome. So what is needed is one complete flashlight that can simply be reproduced. So someone with designing skills and lathe skills (could be a cooperation with more people) must make a prototype that has all we would like and none of the annoying design flaws we are so accustomed to. It is quite an effort to do this, but I'm sure we are better at it than the usual chinese budget light manufacturer (and worse than Thrunite/Fenix/Eagletac/Olight). What makes the work easier is when for the prototype we use available parts whenever they do the job (i.e. for the compact thrower we could just use the EE X6 tube and tail, there's no need to redesign that), and make new parts when suitable ones do not exist (i.e for the compact thrower a new head needs designed, with X9 size (?) reflector and modest but suitable finning so that it still looks good with the skinny body).

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I think kawiboy should just buy a hundred D01’s and mod them like he posted above, then sell them to us. That mod and spec list sounds perfect.

Instead of a “group buy” someone could set up a “group build”, someone who actually likes logistics Smile

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What about a Kit-Version?
Host + Driver + maybe cables + LED for a couple of € cheaper

Someone who builds these lights together is a bit pointless without worldwide free shipping.

We should make an extra thread where people just write possible lights for a GB and then we make a poll about it.

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I think you are on to something here – I think you are correct in saying a lot of people asking for the Courui already own one – mines got the bridged resistor and performs well for a virtually cost free mod. Being able to buy a ‘mod kit’ done by the BLF, supplied by whoever to fit at home is a good idea but sadly I think the logistics of getting all the parts together would probably be too much Sad There is also the problem that some Courui’s are a lot better than others, quality wise – mine was just about perfect thankfully but if members wanted to buy the body only part/or a complete light – as others have said, the quality would definately need looking at.

Now, I have a dedomed / sliced off led STL-V6 (which is very similar to the Maxtoch being planned/suggested) and I can tell you now – the free mod of bridging that resistor allows the Courui (not dedomed) to blow the sliced led STL right out of the water – unless you own a Courui, you won’t understand why it is so good (and COULD be way better), Ill try take some photo’s tonight when we walk the dog to to show you the difference in beam styles.
The STL has a tight beam – the Courui is a wider, ever so slightly more floody beam -BUT that throw part of the beam goes a good 25% further (and that isn’t even dedomed!) than the STL.
I may be wrong, but if you want throw distance there’s no power mod that is going to replace/be any good without correctly shaped, big deep reflector?
The budget part of the whole thrower light is always going to be a concern, using either a maxtoch or a Courui is not going to be very cheap, but I believe spending $20-30 on modding a reduced price Courui (if we sold an amount say $25-30 so $60 all in) would reap far bigger benefits in power/throw that a lightly modded Maxtoch , which would from what I’ve read end up at around $60 too.

Ideal light for me, and if I had a lathe I’d be on it immediately is the 2 cell STL V6 type body with the Courui head Wink My only real woe with my Courui is I am ALWAYS frightened I’m going to drop it. This thing needs a secure wrist strap point so badly. The side switch for me is perfect, I really don’t like rear switches on bigger lights as you need 2 hands free to change modes, switch on and off etc which when walking the dog or holding your kids hands is really inconvenient.

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L4M4 wrote:
$67.99
Where is this a ““budget”“ light?

Then we could use the TrustFire X9 as well

I think that the Courui is a great host – but not suitable for this group buy because too many people already have it.
Why not the Yezl Y3?

A BLF Courui that comes from the factory with the big KD reflector and that isn’t rigged with camera parts isn’t a light that too many people have.

It will have a Courui D01 body but not a Courui D01 head screwed on it.

Pictures borrowed from Linus Hoffman.

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Guys it keeps getting discussed about designing a BLF thrower.
The GB I have going although not a 30 dollar light, I think before all is said and done, the 60 dollar or so price will be about on par with most of the others discussed, after mods and all, or getting the company to get it right with BLF specs.

The Big bonus I am thinking of with this also, is once minimums are reached there will be no sending samples multiple times to get it right, because Maxtoch I think, will nail it first time with the new emitter, which also means a lot faster time to be able to buy, instead of months and months of testing and changing and testing again.

Also if you haven’t ever held, owned, or used a Maxtoch you don’t know just how well they are built.
Fit ,feel and finish are excellent.
I feel they are among the build quality of a lot of the BIG name lights, and they make lights for a number of the big name companies from what I understand, only at 1/3 the price of the big names.

The package, as it is now, I think is a great deal to be honest, 4 amps minimum, gonna try for 5 if the numbers get up, XP-L HI emitter, Custom BLF engraving (etching), paypal option (tracking included in price) Nylon zippered carry bag, lanyard, extra O-rings, tailcap button (boot) and extra tail switch. Plus the option to get the belt holster for 2 bucks if you want it shipped with the order. Is this really such a bad deal? One of the GB guru’s (Kronological) even made a post last night in the thread post #83 check it out if you haven’t already. http://budgetlightforum.com/node/41772

Click any link to see MY REVIEWS:

Maxtoch M24 Sniper / Maxtoch 2X Shooter (2016 factory dedomed) , 2X - XHP 70.2 / Maxtoch Xsword / M1 Archer *** ### ThruNite // Archer 2A V3 / Ti4T / TN4A HI / TH10 / TH20 / C2 Mini / TC12 V2 / T01 /  , neutron 2C V3 , TC20 / Catapult V6 / TC15 / TC15 CE *** ###  Olight // H2R Nova , S10R III / S30R III / H1 Nova / H1 R Nova / X7 Marauder , PL Mini ,  M2R warrior //// Orca T11 / Nitecore EC20 / BLF A6 / Custom Convoy C8 / Lixada Triple 3800LM / Lixada 1000LM / LuxStone X30 / Manker E02 / Manker E14 II /  ### Thorfire /// PF03PF04 , Upgraded PF04 , C8 , S-50 ,  VG-10 , VG25 , C8s , BL30 , TK4A  , S1 , VG15 S  , TK 18 //// ##WowTac// A4 , A1 (original) , A2 headlamp , A3 //// Acebeam L16 /// Massdrop (Lumintop) Brass EDC

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