Integrated charging can be done without interfering with modding. Look at the Eagle Eye X6R. I, for one, would like integrated charging (as long as a good cc/cv chip is used).
I vote no sideswitch button, no integrated charging. Just my 2c
I’ve never had a light with integrated charging but I can see the appeal for some. The convenience factor is nice and they make nice gifts for those uneducated in lithium safety. From what I’ve heard Simon’s lights that have built in charging do use quality charging componets. Maybe someone who owns one can chime in.
+1, don’t make it too complicated. Keep it easy and the price will be lower.
Can’t wait to see some real pictures/video.
I hate charging on lights because it adds to cost and weight and I don’t trust it and won’t use it.
But I love electronic side switches. The only lights that I trust to start in the mode I left them are the ones with electronic side switches.
I have to take it back what I said earlier.
I like a side switch when the light has 2 cells in series, or when the body is just too fat (though I have not any experience with a side switch light :D)
Also the driver has the have a great UI, one of the most important things ofcourse.
But still, an integrated charger isn’t something that I want.
The L2 is a very nice light. For me I would like a host with extension and side switch. No internal charging. But really, even the old L2 would be nice to have back around as long as the price is decent.
The Yezl Y3 works like a charm, no extension tube…
It is not that he does not want to. I have said it several times. It is just a money thing. Simon is the manufacturer but he does not have deep pockets. He and I discussed this stuff in detail with things that we "thought of" :)
He obviously has access to the host but no extension meaning that requires more money spent in advance to have extensions manufactured..and even at that how many? Large quantities are needed for decent pricing. Same goes with the emitters. He most likely already owns an inventory of XML2's. XPL and XPL Hi is again more money and a large quantity again would be needed to get good pricing...and what would he do with all the XML2's?
Simon can buy smaller quantities but then the light's cost increases dramatically and then nobody wants it.
All in all Simon does a great job as a one man band! :)
“He most likely already owns an inventory of XML2’s. XPL and XPL Hi is again more money and a large quantity again would be needed to get good pricing…and what would he do with all the XML2’s?”
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Among the myriad S-x versions that he produces, I don’t think that he will have to eat them.
Thanks,
-Chuck
Yes but looking at Mouser a qty of 250 can equal $7/ea. A qty of 1000 can equal $3.50 ....plus copper
So if he builds only 250 the price really jumps. I have seen others buy elsewhere for $1 less and that happens with Convoy products all the time. If he builds 1000...who is going to buy them?
Now....if a buy was setup with true commitments possibly even a small deposit to offset initial outlay then he would probably be able to do that. He really is a "little guy". We had in depth discussions when I was taking to him about designing/building/selling a headlamp. His margins are nowhere near as great as many think. Anything is possible. It just takes money ;)
I agree with most of the part you said bugsy36. That being said, why the original Convoy L2 has extension tube but when it comes to the new design it suddenly becomes so expensive to make an extension tube for it?
I’m wondering why this is being called an L2, it doesn’t look like the first L2 to me.
This:
doesn’t look really all that similar to this:
Unless I’m missing something. But then again Simon can call it whatever he wants, and knowing him it will be a quality flashlight.
I hope the bezel is still stainless steel…
The new design looks like the Ultrafire TH-1300
Convoy L2 new design,
Ultrafire TH-1300.
Not really.
A finned and milled head, assault crown and some knurling - that describes >80% of all flashlights 
I had hoped so too originally but it’s not, at least this time around. Simon had to stop producing the first L2 because there was just no profit. Way too much material cost. That’s why this rendition does not have stainless. I’m still looking forward to it though. Should have serious throw and runtime.
+1 Must HAVE!
If it's anything like a WF-1300L (sold at Kaidomain.com), it will be a beast of metal! I modded one, and it's one of the bulkiest, heaviest lights I even seen or worked on - great heat sinking, not so great on carrying:
Is it really possible that they still have a light in stock with 7 Jurassic period emitters?
At that price, may be:-)
http://www.kaidomain.com/product/details.S006761
Thanks,
-Chuck