Convoy L2...Guess who's back???

I have to take it back what I said earlier.
I like a side switch when the light has 2 cells in series, or when the body is just too fat (though I have not any experience with a side switch light :D)
Also the driver has the have a great UI, one of the most important things ofcourse.

But still, an integrated charger isn’t something that I want.

The L2 is a very nice light. For me I would like a host with extension and side switch. No internal charging. But really, even the old L2 would be nice to have back around as long as the price is decent.

The Yezl Y3 works like a charm, no extension tube…

It is not that he does not want to. I have said it several times. It is just a money thing. Simon is the manufacturer but he does not have deep pockets. He and I discussed this stuff in detail with things that we "thought of" :)

He obviously has access to the host but no extension meaning that requires more money spent in advance to have extensions manufactured..and even at that how many? Large quantities are needed for decent pricing. Same goes with the emitters. He most likely already owns an inventory of XML2's. XPL and XPL Hi is again more money and a large quantity again would be needed to get good pricing...and what would he do with all the XML2's?

Simon can buy smaller quantities but then the light's cost increases dramatically and then nobody wants it.

All in all Simon does a great job as a one man band! :)

“He most likely already owns an inventory of XML2’s. XPL and XPL Hi is again more money and a large quantity again would be needed to get good pricing…and what would he do with all the XML2’s?”

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Among the myriad S-x versions that he produces, I don’t think that he will have to eat them.

Thanks,
-Chuck

Yes but looking at Mouser a qty of 250 can equal $7/ea. A qty of 1000 can equal $3.50 ....plus copper

So if he builds only 250 the price really jumps. I have seen others buy elsewhere for $1 less and that happens with Convoy products all the time. If he builds 1000...who is going to buy them?

Now....if a buy was setup with true commitments possibly even a small deposit to offset initial outlay then he would probably be able to do that. He really is a "little guy". We had in depth discussions when I was taking to him about designing/building/selling a headlamp. His margins are nowhere near as great as many think. Anything is possible. It just takes money ;)

I agree with most of the part you said bugsy36. That being said, why the original Convoy L2 has extension tube but when it comes to the new design it suddenly becomes so expensive to make an extension tube for it?

I’m wondering why this is being called an L2, it doesn’t look like the first L2 to me.
This:

doesn’t look really all that similar to this:

Unless I’m missing something. But then again Simon can call it whatever he wants, and knowing him it will be a quality flashlight.

I hope the bezel is still stainless steel…

The new design looks like the Ultrafire TH-1300

Convoy L2 new design,

Ultrafire TH-1300.

Not really.
A finned and milled head, assault crown and some knurling - that describes >80% of all flashlights :stuck_out_tongue:

I had hoped so too originally but it’s not, at least this time around. Simon had to stop producing the first L2 because there was just no profit. Way too much material cost. That’s why this rendition does not have stainless. I’m still looking forward to it though. Should have serious throw and runtime.

+1 Must HAVE!

If it's anything like a WF-1300L (sold at Kaidomain.com), it will be a beast of metal! I modded one, and it's one of the bulkiest, heaviest lights I even seen or worked on - great heat sinking, not so great on carrying:

Is it really possible that they still have a light in stock with 7 Jurassic period emitters?

At that price, may be:-)

http://www.kaidomain.com/product/details.S006761

Thanks,
-Chuck

Well, at one time I guess it was pretty amaz'n, think 4-5 years ago. Stock I measured 1054 lumens, after the mods of 7 XM-L2 U2's, wire and resistor mods, it does 3750 lumens.

Oh I know!

Amazing how far that we have come in the last few years…

Sounds like you did it Proud, Tom!

Thanks!
-Chuck

Might as well chuck this in here. I’ve been playing around with the original L2 and a XHP-50 in direct drive. Reading 100K lux at 4A draw ( Panasonics at 4V each), the beam isn’t perfectly uniform but its pretty good. I haven’t tried anything more then that as I’m not sure how much the tailcap will take.
I’ve made a couple of 1300+ lumen 300K lux+ torches before but I’m very impressed with this setup, huge beam and anything out to 200m is like daylight. I will try stick some beam shots up sometime, no promise tho as my to-do and project list is the longest its ever been.

BTW: anyone able to suggest a good <20mm 8.4V 4A driver with nice simple modes?

Try Richard’s 17mm MTN-MAXlp HP 4A-5.5A.

Thanks for the suggestion, $22 is a little rich though so I think I’ll go for a Zener moded AMC7135 driver.