How about 1-20-100 for 3 mode? Start with 1-3 lumens? Can we all agree to that?
We don't know yet whether .5% gives a low below 1lumens..
Maybe it's 1lumens, maybe more, maybe less.
It should first be checked/reviewed/measured, every new flashlight should be carefully checked before it goes into mass production.
I absolutely couldn’t agree more with the last sentence of your post. That needs to happen, I would have asked myself but I figured it was probably too early to start asking for that.
Now as far as the .5% mode. First I want to say that even though I vastly prefer 2-3 lumen “low” modes, there is nothing that bothers me about having moonlight in theory. The problem comes from the fact that AAA lights are best with 3 or fewer modes and that is what this light will have.
Now if the first mode is moonlight, then you end up with a light that turns on in a mode that is useless 99% of the time. That is a problem. Furthermore, you now have no room for a useful, real “low” mode because there absolutely HAS to be a “medium” and a “high”.
Of course everyone is 100% entitled to their own opinion on this matter, but I believe for these reasons that this light should not have a moonlight mode.
Now you mentioned that we don’t know whether .5% produces below 1 lumen or not. This is true for many reasons and even the best manufacturers in the world have a large amount of deviation in their lowest modes. However, I think that because this is a AAA Nichia 219 light, we can make an educated guess that .5% will likely be below 1 lumen. Theoretically if the high mode was 100 lumens, which would be remarkably high if it was a regulated output on an eneloop for at least 1hr, the .5% would be .5 lumens. We can’t know for sure until we have more info.
Obviously this is just a guess but .5% could result in .5 lumens or lower and that would not be good for this light. We should all try to agree on a low mode that will make most of us happy.
It’s something that people don’t agree on, though.
I could say that, if the first mode was high, you would end up with a light that turns on in a mode that is useless 99% of the time, and it would be a problem. I only ever use moon, low, and medium, and would rather not waste a “slot” on high. I’d rather it did 0.3 lumens, 5 lumens, and 30 lumens.
In any case, a poll was made to decide the issue and a conclusion was reached, so it’s a bit too late. The question now is… How many lights do you want?
Yes its something that people don’t agree on, which is exactly why I proposed we figure out a way to agree. Easier said that done of course, but this is what we’re faced with. The last thing that we want is to have a low mode that satisfies neither of our preferences.
Except nobody ever proposed that the light should come on in high. That was never on the table, and it makes no sense to say that. Nobody wants that.
Again this is not possible and was never on the table, though I actually agree with you that losing the high mode wouldn’t be that bad of an idea in theory. Personally I’d use medium and low the most on a light like this.
AFAIK nothing is set in stone and the only thing about the modes that we know is that there will be 3 of them (and they might be .5% - 20% - 100), hence my previous post. We still don’t know what lumen amounts correspond to those percentages, and depending on what 100 is, .5% is likely too low for this 3 mode light - again, because there is a medium and a high and the light comes on in low.
The original Tool had a low of ~1.5lm which would be right in my preferred range of 1-3 lumens for a 3 mode AAA light.
The proposed mode order is L-M-H, presumably without mode memory or some sophisticated UI. Whatever you personally prefer, I think objectively it’s important for the light to come on in a mode that will be useful for greater than 1% of the time. For the majority of people moonlight isn’t that.
Hi, sorry, I think I may have rambled too much. Most of my previous post was an attempt to illustrate that one solution can’t satisfy everyone.
But the main point was this: A poll was taken, a decision was made, and it’s time to move on. I fully support the 3-mode .5/20/100 decision even though it’s not my first choice. I don’t want to complain just because I’d prefer some minor changes. Rey is getting us a premium item at a decent price.
+100!
let’s not make this harder than it needs to be guys. Personally I would like 4 modes but if the majority want three I’m absolutely fine with that. I would prefer to get the light under way then argue about whether it’s 0.5% or 1%…
Hopefully this project succeed. It will be a very special and exclusive flashlight.
I have expressed my preference. But either, I buy a unit whatever the mode setting.
Count Me In !
Two units in copper.
Thanks
At least 4 units.
thanks,
Sorry Rey, gotta pull out on this one.
It’s not anything at all to do with the light or the modes or any of that. I think you’re doing a splendid job.
I’m just too broke to fix.
Great looking host
Are we going to be good on using 10440? Sorry if I missed this if it was addressed.
I'm not trying to sway anyones opinion but I'd personally like a 1 lumen low , second mode to be high and third to be medium because that's kind of how i use lights .
minimum if I can get away with it ..high to see what I need quickly and then throttled back to med if i need some runtime .
kind of like the thrunite Ti
I also like the large jump from low to high because it impresses... not just others but me too .
like the eagletac 2012 d25a ti on a 14500 .....30 lumens than 600 . maeks me smile every time I change modes ..if it had a 150 lumen medium and a 3/4 lumen moon it would be sweet.
For all those people who dislike a moon / low /med /high /turbo ..i think being just one extra click away from max. wouldn't bother them as much ...i think it's the extra 4 clicks that bug them .
After playing with a xeno es1 for quite a while that has med/low high ..30/1/170 lumens .
I have to say i really think what people call an olight mode sequence is really kinda dumb .
Binnaca breath spray cap makes for a nice little short diffuser with a flat top for these lights. since they can't tailstand ...with this they can stand on their heads .Fits perfectly .tint is a bit cool white and has a minty taste .
Also a cute little mini traffic wand in red ..also stands on it's head (sorta) probably kills a lot of light to..but it looks cool .
* top to a Krazy glue pen
The blf-a6’s med-press to go from moon to turbo was actually called “impress mode” at first. I wanted to be able to show off a triple Cypreus’ full output range to muggles, without interfering with regular use. And then it turned out to be really handy for other things, like quickly checking something far away, so I kept it.
I’d like one only if the amps can be increased. 700 plus lumens would be nice!
You would need about 3 Amps. So an IMR may give you 5 minutes runtime.
Good luck with that.
5 mins is all I need. I’ll run it on med most of the time and just blast it in turbo when it’s show off time.
I am interested
As is, it is perfect.
Two units.