BLF Designed Budget Thrower GB Question

[Muto]

@bugsy

I prefer single 26650 or triple 18650 for a big thrower. The big or multiple cells help ensure driving it is not a problem and because it uses such a big heavy reflector, it feels more balanced.

I’m good with 26650 as well, still like the Convoy’s or maybe the tube from the Xtind.
With Convoy working on a new L2, maybe Simon can whip up something special?
L2 is nice because it already has 2 piece battery tube and nice brass fittings.

Later,
Keith

[itsonlyme]

Shenzhen wholesale would not provide a sample unless paid for. When shipping was added as well, it wasnt so good.

[Nicolaas]

The X6 is here, pricey, but the head diam is 54 mm: Unterwegs X6M XM-L2 T6 1000LM T6-1A / T6-3C LED Taschenlampe Sale - Banggood Deutschland sold out-arrival notice-arrival notice

For that amount ($55) you could almost buy a Maxtoch M12 Mission.
With braided springs and dedomed Led (on stock board) mine did 155Kcd already.
With LD1 driver and XM L2 U2 dd on Maxtoch DTP board it does 240Kcd.

But: way to pricey for a BLF GB.

I would go with Djozz for the Aliexpress 1 * 18650 light.

Grtz
Nico

P.S. My Courui D01 does 345Kcd (braided springs, LD2 driver, copper pill, XM L2 U2 dd on Maxtoch board).

[1dash1]

@djozz

I still prefer a BLF thrower which is compact, 18650 (26650 is too bulky, we’re talking throw not runtime, which is still fine with a 18650 btw), 55mm smooth reflector, no side switch and removable brass pill for easy modding, preferably lego-able with the EE X6 or to our new BLF-standard: the BLF-A6

+1

I’d be interested in just the lego-able head for say $25 for 100kcd up to $50 for 200kcd, depending on what other features are thrown in (pun intended ).

[ReManG]

@thijsco19

I think it’s time to repost this.
Looks like a decent candidate for a BLF thrower. (http://www.shenzhen-wholesale.com/cree-l2-led-980lm-5-mode-flashlight-torch_sku10637.html)

@Jubeldum

@djozz

Personally I would not be very interested in a big light, but in a small and lightweight light, so 3x18650 is too chunky. For me a maximal driven 1x18650 big reflector thrower would be preferred.

Here you go.

http://szobm.en.alibaba.com/product/60152730337-200275902/Wholesale_OEM_LED_Flashlight_Torch_for_tracking_XM_L2_LED_1200_lumen_powerful_Fast_Track_Flashlight.html

http://www.szobm.cn/product/60152730337-200275902/Wholesale_OEM_LED_Flashlight_Torch_for_tracking_XM_L2_LED_1200_lumen_powerful_Fast_Track_Flashlight.html

So how much would you pay for this with an XP-L HI and a driver like the BLF A6 (FET +1 7135)? I am thinking this would be a good candidate for a GB…

How about a GB for just this as a host? What would you pay for a host like this?

[chuckhov]

This light ready to shine?

I would pay $35. - Do you think that is reasonable, or am I out of line?

Thanks,
-Chuck

[crnkin]

@Nicolaas

The X6 is here, pricey, but the head diam is 54 mm: Unterwegs X6M XM-L2 T6 1000LM T6-1A / T6-3C LED Taschenlampe Sale - Banggood Deutschland sold out-arrival notice-arrival notice

For that amount ($55) you could almost buy a Maxtoch M12 Mission.
With braided springs and dedomed Led (on stock board) mine did 155Kcd already.
With LD1 driver and XM L2 U2 dd on Maxtoch DTP board it does 240Kcd.

But: way to pricey for a BLF GB.

I would go with Djozz for the Aliexpress 1 * 18650 light.

Grtz
Nico

P.S. My Courui D01 does 345Kcd (braided springs, LD2 driver, copper pill, XM L2 U2 dd on Maxtoch board).

That’s just an hd2010 copy so could go that route potentially for this rough ~$35ish price point, but I think the point is to be slightly different than what is currently available

Chris

[L4M4]

So, Cree has made a new LED - perfect for a Pocketthrower!

NEW: CREE X-Lamp XQ-E HI Intensity LED

Need a laser? Boom: http://www.cree.com/LED-Components-and-Modules/Products/XLamp/Discrete-Directional/XLamp-XQE-HI Should be one great thrower for 25-40mm lenses in smaller hosts. Low VF. 335 Lumens from 1mm² die area (which we know is that common “low” number they give us at first release). Thermal resistance rated at 6°C/W! Half the XQ-E Torch rating, and 2/3 the XP-E2 rating. That’s good news. Might see 415+ lumens from this and holding, over-driven, with resistance like that. [image] I…

So we don’t need no big ass reflector.

[thijsco19]

@chuckhov

This light ready to shine?

I would pay $35. - Do you think that is reasonable, or am I out of line?

Thanks,
-Chuck

I would say somewhere between 30 - 40$. Depending on the groupbuy discount.
But we can not really say anything before we know its quality.

[Manx]

What about a modded Warsun MX900 ?

A good thrower, double switch, works with 1/2/3 18650 so perfect for runtime, compact, budget light (25:money_mouth_face:, beautiful style.
It’s a bad idea?

here is the link: Warsun MX900 at Banggood

[thijsco19]

It looks great but the head isn’t much bigger that that of a C8 (48mm compared to 45mm).

[djozz]

@ReManG

So how much would you pay for this with an XP-L HI and a driver like the BLF A6 (FET +1 7135)? I am thinking this would be a good candidate for a GB… How about a GB for just this as a host? What would you pay for a host like this?

I bought something like this (57mm head diameter, 49mm reflector, 1x18650) but with XM-L (was the best led back then) and crappy driver at dx a few years ago for 18 dollars, so with good driver and XP-L Hi it should still be able to sell for 25 dollars shipped. Just the host: under 20 dollars.

[Nicolaas]

@L4M4

So, Cree has made a new LED - perfect for a Pocketthrower!

NEW: CREE X-Lamp XQ-E HI Intensity LED

So we don’t need no big ass reflector.

Well, that would depend on a few facts:

1) how much current can it handle
2) what is the light intensity (candela per square mm)

And bear in mind that this Led would give you a thrower with a pencil beam if fitted in a decent size light.
Kinda like the old skool Solarforce Skyline 1.

SO: DJOZZ PLS BY AND TEST FOR US :bigsmile:

Grtz
Nico

[Tom_E]

@Manx

What about a modded Warsun MX900 ? A good thrower, double switch, works with 1/2/3 18650 so perfect for runtime, compact, budget light (25:money_mouth_face:, beautiful style. It’s a bad idea? here is the link: “Warsun MX900 at Banggood”:Warsun MX900 XM-L2-5-Mode 1198 Lumen-Leistungs-LED Taschenlampe Sale - Banggood Deutschland sold out-arrival notice-arrival notice

Actually the reflector is exactly the same size as a deep C8. Another bad design problem is the poor blocking LED spacer in Warsun's - it can be fixed of course, but you have to raise the MCPCB, etc., and the Warsun owner is a pain to deal with - I know... Fully modded the right way, it's a great light with more heat sinking than a typical C8, but, you do have to consider it right there with other C8's for throw performance.

I got a couple, worked on a couple more.

[Manx]

it looks great but the head isn’t much bigger that that of a C8 (48mm compared to 45mm)

Actually the reflector is exactly the same size as a deep C8. Another bad design problem is the poor blocking LED spacer in Warsun’s - it can be fixed of course, but you have to raise the MCPCB, etc., and the Warsun owner is a pain to deal with - I know… Fully modded the right way, it’s a great light with more heat sinking than a typical C8, but, you do have to consider it right there with other C8’s for throw performance.
I got a couple, worked on a couple more.

You are right; I remember all the shit about…
If only it was a little more pleasent to us…(I mean the boss of the brand)…a flashlight with a lot of potential denied by some issues :_(

But I remember there was a deal with Warsun too, and I read about some little improvement on the light. A sort of version 2.0 (there are some good review on banggood by users)

[Gunslinger686]

Looks like this is still a longways off ,till then I need a Best bang for the buck thrower , ideas and opinions welcome ?

Cw

[veer (vēer)]

I cant believe this thread has been silent for more than a month :(!

I want budget thrower, single 18650 that could kick ass of my stock A60(that is not even here with me!) :D!

Just trying to bump this thread up!

[Abqjohnny]

I think the m24 group buy took some of the thunder for this budget thrower thread. I still want something with a big head, a side switch and high amps. Basically a factory modded couroi D01 with BLF designed UI.
Maybe interested in Simons L2 (version next) as a possible host to avoid QC issues.

[JasonJ]

@Abqjohnny

I think the m24 group buy took some of the thunder for this budget thrower thread. I still want something with a big head, a side switch and high amps. Basically a factory modded couroi D01 with BLF designed UI.
Maybe interested in Simons L2 (version next) as a possible host to avoid QC issues.

Me too. But I may just bite the bullet and do it myself; at least then it’s customized to me, for me, by me. Will cost twice as much… but at least I’ll know what I’ve got (and it’ll actually get done).

[jacc]

ahem…cough…18650/26650 single thrower, improvement from convoy L2, sideswitch + tail, lightweight but stainless steel bezel, electronics from BLF … please, convoy?

Something like:
http://www.gearbest.com/bathroom-lighting/pp_356666.html

Plus this:
http://www.gearbest.com/led-flashlights/pp_359831.html???

Plus this:
http://www.gearbest.com/led-flashlights/pp_299059.html

Minus weight…