The way it is build, as can be seen on the Supfire website, it certainly is a weapon, and I expect Dale to perform some thorough wacking tests with it (on non-living objects of course).
I certainly have no aversion to weapons of any kind, but I’m just pointing out the realities of this modern world. For many, this light will be a “safe queen” that cannot be carried / used outside the home.
What’s the legality of this being carried in the Netherlands? In many parts of California, you’d be stopped, quite possibly in a very unpleasant way, if seen carrying it.
You would never want to keep this with the idea that it could be used for self defense. Being shaped like a weapon can cause you to be framed as the aggressor. Even in a self defense situation. Why did you have a weapon? Where you looking for trouble? And heaven help you, if they die from a blow to the head.
This just makes it a big liability for you. And imho that makes this light worse than pointless. If you want a good flashlight for self defense get a long length flashlight with a normal shape, not shaped like a bat.
Thank goodness for Oklahoma and Texas, open carry FTW.
I’ve never understood the mindset that because I prepare for violence, I’m the bad guy.
“No, officer, I’m carrying a weapon because you cannot be everywhere at every time. Furthermore, I assert my 5th amendment rights from this point out.”
edit - I am not suggesting anyone ignore local realities, probably not a good idea.
Cause the bad guys prepare for violence all the time. Most innocent people don’t (unless they live in a bad neighborhood). When someone is forced to protect themselves with whatever they have on hand (like a nice solid maglite in days past) it does help indicate it was self defense.
Back when I was in the States, I carried a firearm quite often, with one purpose only - stopping someone who seriously threatened me or others.
Maybe baseball bats are treated differently, but if someone pulled a knife on me while I was carrying a firearm and I shot them, no one would accuse me of looking for trouble.
I’d be interested in one. I’d have to modify it with a direct driven MT-G2 that way I can blind the person, then beat them with the bat, and burn them at the same time!
As to the self defense thing, I would keep this in the house for the kids to use if they couldn’t get to a firearm first. My kids are both trained in the proper use of firearms and frequently practice self defense shooting with both rifles and pistols. I personally would never need it for self defense, as I carry a pistol 100% of the time that I am in public thanks to my enhanced carry Mississippi license.
Unfortunately people do get accused when they were truthfully acting in self defense. The guy only had a little knife, did you really need to shoot him dead? Wouldn’t he have reconsidered attacking you as soon as he saw your big gun? Did even you give him a chance?
It’s sad.
“enhanced carry”? Haven’t heard of that before but it sounds good!
BTW, Halo, hope you’re not taking my talking with you as hostile arguing! 
In OK and TX, the only two locales I’m really familiar with, the size of the knife wouldn’t matter. The primary thing the police would care about was, “Who drew a weapon first?” Now, if say I pulled my gun and the other fella immediately gave up, IF I then shot him, that’s murder in every location on earth.
In Germany where I’m stationed now, I’d just carry a Trustfire TR-J19 or TR-J20! 
This baseball bat light would mostly be a “safe queen” unless it’s not really that big. A small mini-sized bat could probably be seen as not a weapon, something the size of a Louisville Slugger would get you questioned heavily by der Polizei. I’m not an expert on German law, though.
Are you a soldier on active service? Just curious as you mentioned ‘stationed’….
Ok, I believe it is a ridiculous light but I showed this to a friend and he loves it for in his vintage Mercedes! So I'm in for a red one!!!!
Wrathbringer,
Yup, Air Force. Currently in sunny, wonderful Afghanistan and flashlights give me something to think about and spend some money on without going completely broke.
There's two aspects: 1) although fire-arms are very illegal here (if you are not police, carrying a gun makes you a criminal unless you are licensed for shooting sports), you can carry knives and clubs legally. 2) the occurrance of violence to normal people is very very low, even in Amsterdam where I live. There's violence among criminals, but as a normal citizen behaving average (if you are not intentially at the wrong place at the wrong time) you hardly encounter anything. A club would be an utter useless thing to carry all the time unless you are paranoid.
I’m guessing not available in SS? 
Wonderful! I’’ve always wanted to be one but sadly in Singapore they only allow the chinese to be pilots 
Before you ask why, its because theyre afraid that if there are Malay pilots then we might defect to malaysia while using their own weapons against them pfft i call BS! |(
when i got this light at my hand maybe peoples will call me bat-man
I’ll ask about multiple lights incurring additional shipping or if there’s a break on that. Estimating, the box will be approx 3”x3” x22” so it stands to reason Intl shipping won’t be especially cheap. They are on fall holiday, so it will be a week in getting responses.
I paid $28 to get it shipped DHL, so my review light should be here by middle of next week. (the difference in dealing directly with the manufacturer vs dealing with a vendor. And frankly I didn’t ask for a free sample light nor did I ask for any favors. I just ordered a light, with speedy shipping, to be as impartial as possible.)
I got one in Rose to go with our Tornado Red VW Golf Sportwagen TDi.
And yes, modifications will more than likely be applied. And then thoroughly potted for solidity. :bigsmile:
I would expect each individual to use common sense as to whether or not their living conditions can support this type of light. As with anything that can be considered a weapon, common sense and a good bit of knowledge go a long way towards making life easy. These days, whether you flip your hoodie up or down can be the difference in surviving the day, so lets use good judgement for your own situation, please!
Long discussions in a flashlight thread about what may or may not be legal around the globe are pretty much a waste of time. Each individual knows what they can and can’t do. Let’s leave it at that please.
If I wasn’t already in for 3 of the GB’s, it wouldn’t be a bad thing at all to keep in the vehicle.
I have my equalizer with me at all times (Colt .45 / 1911, that was my duty weapon back when) and my wife keeps hers, with her (S&W .40 Model 4006) but I would rather knock someone out, than have to shoot / kill them to be honest, if it came down to it, and with this you have protection, plus an emergency light if it is needed.
Curious as to your findings with this one though, just to see how it fairs and holds up.
Is the switch on the tail end? Or on the side?
Dale, are you planning to mod yours?