- The Fake-Cree LED Awareness Thread - The new "low" in Budget lights.

Do you have a close up bigger photo of that unknown LED? it almost looks like a fake 3535 type emitter. ( much smaller than a real XM-L

It looks the would-be XP-L led that popped up in the recent SRK clones everywhere. I tested it here (it comes after the XP-L Hi test): https://budgetlightforum.com/t/-/35024

DBSAR, here it is:

The white square has sides of 3,5 mm.

djozz, yes - my led is the same as yours!

Indeed it does. And great test and info on the fake xpl too. It shoes how bad they are when it comes to efficiency & performance compared to Cree emitters.

I’ve checked the New Arrivals @ DX (http://www.dx.com/new-arrivals?cate=1307) and all flashlights have no mention of “CREE” neither in the headline nor in the description. Eg. it says “Emitter Brand: Others” or “Emitter Brand: N/A”. Some examples:
http://www.dx.com/p/fandyfire-flashlight-led-xph50-long-range-outdoor-household-rechargeable-flashlight-12-6v-408996#.VgWVPFMyl-I
http://www.dx.com/p/fandyfire-l2-t6-3-mode-1000lm-cool-white-rotatable-switch-diving-flashlight-black-1x26650-408949#.VgWTdFMyl-I
http://www.dx.com/p/lightscastle-xm-l-t6-5-mode-600lm-cool-white-flashlight-w-clip-black-1-x-18650-408800#.VgWTrVMyl-I
http://www.dx.com/p/zhishunjia-a2-t6-xm-l-t6-led-800lm-5-mode-neutral-white-flashlight-w-keychain-golden-1-x-18650-408832#.VgWTwVMyl-I
http://www.dx.com/p/zhishunjia-u1-usb-q5-xp-e-240lm-neutral-white-light-led-flash-light-black-407050#.VgWT3FMyl-I
Since there is no fake xhp-50 ? at least this one should be a CREE. But those “XM-L T6” / “XM-L2 T6” or “XP-E Q5” could be LatticeBright or else.
Some of those lights aren’t that cheap, so there is the chance that all have CREE’s nevertheless.
I wonder what’s behind the decision of DX to avoid naming the emitter brand…

Interesting.
looks like they are beginning to hear us and our discovery of these fake LEDs, but i do notice they are still using the Cree LED type names or part of them, ( XM-L , T6, L2, etc.

It’s funny to see that DX is actually selling Lightcastle branded product. :bigsmile:

That is funny actually :stuck_out_tongue:

As long as they don’t name a Lattice bright as a “cree” emitter, I am fine with whatever name or no name they assign to the emitter….

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/20mm-Board-CREE-XML-XML2-T6-U2-10W-High-Power-LED-Emitter-Bulb-For-Flashlight-DIY/616282_32271279885.html

what about this ? seller says its original cree not copy/replica/imitation/fake.

difficult to know there. AlieExpress is known to have some shady sellers as bad as ebay sometimes.

Hank from http://intl-outdoor.com has legit Cree LED.

Just wanted to let you know that the Solarstorm T4 also has fake XM-L inside. If someone allready did, my fault did not want to read the hole thing. I still kinda remember they did not want to swap to XML2 back then because they had a big lot of “XM-L” left, go figure.
Highly suggest everybody to swap the emmiters, makes for an way better light.
I only noticed it beause of my neighbours failed T4, where it had killed 3 out of 4 leds. Didn’t use mine that much.

Made a quick and dirty picture:
It also has a white base.

that’s definitely a LB fake XM-L.

where is the limit below that even chinese manufacturers can’t make a light with a real cree LED?

Definitely LB fake XM-Ls.
The cheapo sellers and manufacturers are trying to make more on their cheapo lights by using these knockoff Cree emitters they probably get for pennies each, and pulling the-wool over the eyes of the mass number of unsuspecting online buyers that they are getting a real Cree LED flashlight, but what we get is a crap LED fake with half the efficiency & output of a cree version, and even worse tint than the worst Cree tint-bins.

Does Cree know this situation of fake leds?

That lb 2.0 just gave me cancer. Next gen fakery

the best solution is stop to buy from these f*king disonest chinese sellers
they know what crappy light sell.
unfortunately,newbie customer including me was attracted lowest prices and they continue to sell them

That is nearly impossible.