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It makes it worse as so many of the light manufacturers and sellers are calling them “CREE ” by still stamping it on the lights, in the sellers description, and in some cases with these inferior LB LEDs on Cree stars to continue to fool & deceive the un-educated consumer that they are getting a real “Cree” powered light when they buy them, but in fact what makes it worse is not only are these LB LED’s a blatant bold direct copy of genuine Cree Emitters, they are very inefficient, lower output while requiring more amps to drive them, and even worse eye-searing bluish tinted than the worse tinted Cree bins.
One “LB” budget light i have sucks 1.8 amps from a 18650 cell while maxing out at a pathetic 400 lumens in my sphere, and the tint is so bad and CRI is so low it makes everything look like the picture on a 1960’s B/W TV set.
Basically these crap LB LEDs are a major step backwards compared to the brand name LED manufacturers in modern LED advancements, i compare these LB LEDs to old Incandescent bulbs for efficiency, power usage and output, and compare them to a 1970’s Daylight Florescent tube for tint and color rendering.
My opinion on most of the random budget lights we will get when buying will be basically a host-only that will need a real LED modded in them, as they are practically trash and useless as a flashlight to use with the inferior Lattice Bright crap in them.
Good posts guys. Thanks.
Hmmm... I havent followed this thread very well. But Im really surprised they look so similar. I would have said them to be Cree..
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My opinion of latticebright…
Some have blamed this phenomenon on the “market place” Well, in this case the “market place” is “all of us” In my opinion this is a very dangerous idea. When a person commits a criminal act and we blame it on society what we are saying is that we are all at fault. But when we say everyone is at fault, what we are really saying is that Nobody is at fault.
If everybody owns everything (Communism) then nobody owns anything.
Let’s put the blame on who really is at fault here. Lattice Bright.
They are NOT Cree led.
Lattice Bright is a company created to cash in on Cree’s success, by copying their products with cheaper, lower quality & inferior copies and fakes of a successful companies products, and with the lack of copyright laws and enforcement in China there is nobody to stop them. Added that the manufacturers of the utlra-budget flashlight industry is taking advantage of it themselves by using the inferior lower-cost LB fakes in their products and calling them “Cree” brand, while blatantly committing sales fraud. Who is going to stop them? nobody as long as they stay in China, and out goverments will still allow ship-loads of fakes, copies, and fraudulent products to flow over the borders.
It is our duty to make sure as many people we can is aware of what they could be buying now, especially here.
I don’t think anyone disagrees with you that counterfeiting is still counterfeiting and that it’s completely wrong. I completely agree with you that a company like Lattice Bright purposefully making their LEDs to look like CREEs and then having them placed in Cree labeled flashlights is terrible. I just think that with the demand from the consumers for lower price points with similar quality, one can’t be surprised that someone would see that demand and try to meet it to gain a profit, with or without integrity. But yes, it’s still wrong.
re: “…Lattice Bright purposefully making their LEDs to look like CREEs and then having them placed in Cree labeled flashlights is terrible…”
You make it sound as if LatticeBright funded those manufacturers and “having them placed in Cree Labeled flashlight.” I doubt that is the case. I am entirely confident that if a cheaper imitation came about, these manufacturer wouldn’t waste a minute switching away from LatticeBright and still sell their “Cree” labeled lights.
I think the blame LatticeBright line of thinking is way off mark. But we are all entitled to our opinions.
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http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/20mm-Board-CREE-XML-XML2-T6-U2-10W-High-Power-LED-Emitter-Bulb-For-Flashlight-DIY/616282_32271279885.html
what about this ? seller says its original cree not copy/replica/imitation/fake.
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today i received below led ordered from above link.
is it genuine Cree xml-u2 or fake ?
i couldnt get my nexus to focus more on this picture.
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That one looks like a genuine Cree XM-L2
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Hi there. So this item here in tiny deal is interesting
She said she can offer me this for as low as 5$. But need to confirm if it uses cree xml.
Tinydeal was actually kind to send me an actual picture of the led
!http://i59.tinypic.com/3synm.jpg!
Its not that clear though but at least it doest look
Like xpe/xFAKe, so do you think this is real xml?
!http://i59.tinypic.com/3synm.jpg!
Suck at pics again, hope you guys can help.thanks
Looks like one of the LB clones to me. Should be a decent fit for this light… :zipper_mouth_face:
Is this a response to my pic or above me?
not bad price for even a TF Mini-01 clone if you can get them for 5 bucks. i can’t get the image they sent you to work to see it though.