It’s likely LB has been “throwing wrenches” into their LED designs, (meaning they are making them with slight differences even for the same type/model,) to possibly throw off people who are suspecting their operations with this large fake Cree scam from easily identifying their fake leds from the real ones.
Or it must be a fake lb led which is a fake of cree led. Fakeception
Everything about that ebay ad is a scam. ( seller has no feedback, the photos don’t add up, (photos of zoomie beamshots for a reflector-based light) the LED is obvious LB, and comes with a ridiculous claim of 5800mah 18650 cell, all for only $6.52.
Ebay is a place nowadays where 90 % or more of the products you buy are fakes, copies, scams, rip-offs, re-brands, etc. unless your familiar with a honest seller that you have bought from before.
Now that Ebay is a place of full fake products, why don’t you guys buy products from other electronics distributor? As we know, eBay is not professional at this filed.
DBSAR
No, it was just to show you the flashlight, I bought it from another dealer called lan-yrd who has good feedback.
Still, I wanted to swap it to an XP-G2, and now I learned I replaced it with a fake XP-G2! :bigsmile:
NicoleK
I think it’s the seller that matters, not the Ebay itself.
I agree with Dimking, the sellers matter most.
A few good aspects of buying from Ebay compare to other stores often mentioned on this forum:
Ebay’s shipping has been quite reliable and relatively fast to me. Ebay’s sellers seemed more concerned about their own reputation than some of these often mentioned on this forum. It is easier to get refund from a seller for a non-satisfactory product. If comparing a good Ebay seller to GB, I would 200% in favor of a good Ebay seller. After the fiasco with the lost shipment and etc, I would never buy from them again. So far, I haven’t had such problem from Ebay sellers yet. I actually like and trust FastTech. However, I haven’t receiver two of their packages for over 40 days with free shipping. I’d only buy from them with a tracking number even that means costing more. Ebay’s shipping is reliable and fast over 95% of my orders. For the rest of the 5%, get refund or replacement is very simple and easily done.
There are a lot of fake products on ebay and you can easily tell. However, GB, BG and DX are not much better. Again, one need make sure who you are dealing with when buying from Ebay, the same as from anywhere else and one need to set correct expectations.
I just e-mailed to one of them saying they are selling fakes. Wonder what they say.
The faked XP-G2 is rated at 130 Chinese lumen at 350 mA! ARRGHHH!!!
just saw a few LB XML2 clones from my local flashlight stores
like those pics above, the xml2 phosphor is dotty and missing that black dot marker on the corner
nasty blue tint but they aren’t too bad looking compared to generic XML leds
Looks like LB has 2 different clones for an XP-E. Here's one
Here’s two:
Or it is neither Cree nor LB :zipper_mouth_face:
I have one of those too, i believe its just another variation from LB or an equivalent. The one i have has a horrible tint and not very efficient, about the same as an incandescent bulb for output vs. Amp draw. Less than 100 lumens and suck over an amp & a half at that.
Here is what 2012topdeal replied to me:
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Dear thedimking,
dear friend.
you can compare with it with cree xpg2 led, if it is not the same, i will refund for you.
our item is 100% orginal cree xpg2 led .
can you send a picture which you get it?
eileen
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The last phrase remained enigmatic to me, (I don’t think the problem here is that English is not my mother tongue)
but I sent them the side-by-side picture and gave them a link to this thread.
If they follow with what they said, I think it’s o.k. However, its still a hassle.
I just noticed lck_led_com raised the price of XP-G2 s2 twice recently. I don’t see a reason to buy this from them again at this price. Their LEDs seem genuine but their price gets less and less attractive.
I bought the fakes for $1.80, which is too good to be true for a genuine XP-G2 NW (I should have guessed that before, lol)
thats a relief
I bought a Cree XP-G2 Neutral White R3 from lck_led_com for $1.43 on Sept. 23 and it is genuine. So it was possible. Unfortunately, it is $2.45 now :(.
so how does everybody feel about the huge inventory of LEDs FT just got in?
If you look at the bin / tint combinations and some of the pictures I feel there are a number of fakes littered in there.
i never seen them yet. Have any links?