- The Fake-Cree LED Awareness Thread - The new "low" in Budget lights.

Looks like LB has 2 different clones for an XP-E. Here's one

Here’s two:

Or it is neither Cree nor LB :zipper_mouth_face:

I have one of those too, i believe its just another variation from LB or an equivalent. The one i have has a horrible tint and not very efficient, about the same as an incandescent bulb for output vs. Amp draw. Less than 100 lumens and suck over an amp & a half at that.

Here is what 2012topdeal replied to me:
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Dear thedimking,
dear friend.
you can compare with it with cree xpg2 led, if it is not the same, i will refund for you.
our item is 100% orginal cree xpg2 led .
can you send a picture which you get it?
eileen
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The last phrase remained enigmatic to me, (I don’t think the problem here is that English is not my mother tongue)
but I sent them the side-by-side picture and gave them a link to this thread.

If they follow with what they said, I think it’s o.k. However, its still a hassle.
I just noticed lck_led_com raised the price of XP-G2 s2 twice recently. I don’t see a reason to buy this from them again at this price. Their LEDs seem genuine but their price gets less and less attractive.

I bought the fakes for $1.80, which is too good to be true for a genuine XP-G2 NW (I should have guessed that before, lol)

thats a relief

I bought a Cree XP-G2 Neutral White R3 from lck_led_com for $1.43 on Sept. 23 and it is genuine. So it was possible. Unfortunately, it is $2.45 now :(.

so how does everybody feel about the huge inventory of LEDs FT just got in?

If you look at the bin / tint combinations and some of the pictures I feel there are a number of fakes littered in there.

i never seen them yet. Have any links?

https://www.fasttech.com/category/1/new-products

The ones I bought from the before all works fine. The performance are consistent and as expected. These are unmounted so I have no way to test them. Please let us know if any one buys and tests them.

I see no suspicious leds in the pictures, And they are not exactly the latest and the greatest, I guess they found back some old reels in the cellar.

The pictures of them look like genuine, but the Lumens they listed sounds off. (148lm for XP-G2, 300lm for XM-L) unless it’s nominal or lower raring and not maximum in their listings. (Those ratings are close to the ratings from Lattice brights website for their clones.

I don’t think the people in FT are that technically savvy. They just list whatever the suppliers gave them. As somebody pointed out before, The standard test current for XP-G2 is listed at 350 ma. 148 lm is exactly the s2 bin generate at 85 C in the spec. Similarly, the lumens of XP-L is listed at 700ma. 300 lm is exactly the U2 bin produce at 85 C. Of course, we will not know until someone test it out. Right now, I think they should be o.k. based on my past experiences with FT.

I'd suggest that the ratings for them are from the Cree PDF's. Someone picked them up previously for overstating the specs on the leds.

very true now that i remember reading the Cree specs. I’m just more used to driving these emitters to the maximum to get 4 times those lumens. :bigsmile:

what do you think about this from a famous flashlight?

Fixed it for ya!

So, a Lattice Bright in a ZeusRay?
That just isn’t right.

Definitely a Latticebright fake of a XM-L2. east to see that this must be a horrible zombie blue tint form looking at the thin, light greenish-yellow phosphor that the LB fakes are becoming known for & their really bad tints.